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Post by scottysmalls on Jun 27, 2024 16:56:30 GMT -5
Yes it is possible for teams to get worse and still win the championship, I'm not sure what point that proves, they very well could have won with Nomar. I get the point about balancing the roster, but I disagree that it matters. Actually, run creation scales non-linearly, so I'd argue a team with a good offense gains disproportionate value by leaning further into their strength, all else being equal. In what way did they get worse? They had a .700 winning percentage after the trade and a .605 winning percentage for the season. They definitely got better. Can that be put 100% on the shoulders of Orlando Cabrera and Doug Monkeywrench's defense? No, I wouldn't go that far, but they didn't get worse. They got worse at shortstop. Other things got better. But now we’re really getting side tracked
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Post by keninten on Jun 27, 2024 17:22:35 GMT -5
In what way did they get worse? They had a .700 winning percentage after the trade and a .605 winning percentage for the season. They definitely got better. Can that be put 100% on the shoulders of Orlando Cabrera and Doug Monkeywrench's defense? No, I wouldn't go that far, but they didn't get worse. They got worse at shortstop. Other things got better. But now we’re really getting side tracked Nomar only played 38 games for the Sox.
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Post by cba82 on Jun 27, 2024 17:46:49 GMT -5
Law of Unintended Consequences:
The new playoff format has 9 of 15 American League teams and 13 of 15 National League teams “in it” (within five games) as we approach the first of July.
A lot could happen over the next month, of course, but with so many teams thinking they’re in the hunt, it could have a chilling effect on the trade deadline — there’s only so much talent to be plucked from the corpses of the White Sox and Marlins.
Is that what the MLB wanted?
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Post by asm18 on Jun 27, 2024 18:34:58 GMT -5
Who gets Soto when the Yankees sell
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Post by chaimtime on Jun 27, 2024 18:57:17 GMT -5
Who gets Soto when the Yankees sell do you think Dick Fitts, Greg Weissert and Nicholas Judice would get it done
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Post by tedf on Jun 27, 2024 19:02:59 GMT -5
Is he a "great hitter"? Or is he a pretty good hitter that went on a crazy hot streak when he got called back up and has maybe come back to earth over the past 7 or so games? He hasn’t really declined offensively much at all recently other than batted ball luck so I’m not sure about the last part. I also don’t know if he’s a great hitter I’m just saying people are writing him off like he can’t be the answer at 2B and I think we have another month or so to determine that (for 2024 at least) He was red hot when first called up, but has fallen back to a .340 wOBA since June 17. (Picked somewhat arbitrarily, you can probably find a date that makes it look worse.) That's still pretty good, of course, but might look better at DH than as a really bad defensive 2B. Has the second lowest FRV at second base in the majors this year, minimum 300 innings, with Arraez the other one. And does that even measure the aspects of defensive play not involved with fielding balls hit to him? Looking at larger samples, he seems very streaky? So tough to guess how much of his recent offensive success is sustainable. If we could find somebody with a .320 wOBA and plus defense, that would likely be an improvement.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jun 27, 2024 19:14:26 GMT -5
Law of Unintended Consequences: The new playoff format has 9 of 15 American League teams and 13 of 15 National League teams “in it” (within five games) as we approach the first of July. A lot could happen over the next month, of course, but with so many teams thinking they’re in the hunt, it could have a chilling effect on the trade deadline — there’s only so much talent to be plucked from the corpses of the White Sox and Marlins. Is that what the MLB wanted? Just a fan with no insight in to the minds of the powers to be. But, I really feel that MLB would be thrilled if 22 teams are in contention for 12 playoff spots on July 31st. That keeps more fans interested and butts in the seats. I think this is the intended consequence of expanding to 3 wild card teams. I also think it is better for long term competition if the return from seller deals at the deadline increases due to competition for their useful pieces. MLB should like that as well.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jun 27, 2024 19:15:23 GMT -5
He hasn’t really declined offensively much at all recently other than batted ball luck so I’m not sure about the last part. I also don’t know if he’s a great hitter I’m just saying people are writing him off like he can’t be the answer at 2B and I think we have another month or so to determine that (for 2024 at least) He was red hot when first called up, but has fallen back to a .340 wOBA since June 17. (Picked somewhat arbitrarily, you can probably find a date that makes it look worse.) That's still pretty good, of course, but might look better at DH than as a really bad defensive 2B. Has the second lowest FRV at second base in the majors this year, minimum 300 innings, with Arraez the other one. And does that even measure the aspects of defensive play not involved with fielding balls hit to him? Looking at larger samples, he seems very streaky? So tough to guess how much of his recent offensive success is sustainable. If we could find somebody with a .320 wOBA and plus defense, that would likely be an improvement. the player you’re describing is like Ha Seong Kim, we can’t just find a guy like that and there are none likely to be available As for Valdez that’s why I called out batted ball luck, look at his xwOBA, other than a bad 6/22 he’s been crushing the ball since 6/11. Still a very small sample
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 27, 2024 19:48:49 GMT -5
In what way did they get worse? They had a .700 winning percentage after the trade and a .605 winning percentage for the season. They definitely got better. Can that be put 100% on the shoulders of Orlando Cabrera and Doug Monkeywrench's defense? No, I wouldn't go that far, but they didn't get worse. They got worse at shortstop. Other things got better. But now we’re really getting side tracked No, they actually got better. As Tek said, "our guy (Cabrera) plays EVERY day". That was huge. By Aug 2004 Nomar was missing a lot of games and was in a situation where there was real concern he could miss a lot more. Yeah he could still hit, but his defense was severely limited. Cabrera played steady defense and held his own offensively. Dont know if you recall, but the Sox were getting killed by their erratic defense as August 2004 approached. Yes, they had defensive wiz Pokey Reese to play SS in Nomars absence but Cabrera provided defense about as good as Pokey's and provided more offense. Plus his presence allowed Pokey to defense for Mark Bellhorn at 2b, greatly strengthening two key defensive positions. The other addition in the deal, Mientkiewicz, provided a gold glove upgrade at 1b from defensive liability Millar. Roberts also was acquired and provided solid defense in RF, along with Kapler, until Nixon returned, and then provided a late inning glove for Manny as well. And oh yeah, he could run. That team got better because the defense started making the plays, which allowed the pitchers to attack the strike zone, stay longer in the games, and reduced the stress on the pen. I wasnt excited about that Nomar deal at the time. I was resigned to it, but who knows if the huge ripple effect would have taken place had Nomar remained? I seriously tend to doubt it. I think vastly improved defense was a huge difference maker. I think Theo made a great diagnosis oh what ailed that team and resolved the issue. And its certainly something that could help this year's team. I have no idea who Breslow should target for SS. That's his job, not mine. He gets paid to resolve those issues. I dont. But I have been heartened to read that Breslow is looking for starting pitching and SS help. Perhaps he sees what I see?
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Post by tedf on Jun 27, 2024 21:58:36 GMT -5
He was red hot when first called up, but has fallen back to a .340 wOBA since June 17. (Picked somewhat arbitrarily, you can probably find a date that makes it look worse.) That's still pretty good, of course, but might look better at DH than as a really bad defensive 2B. Has the second lowest FRV at second base in the majors this year, minimum 300 innings, with Arraez the other one. And does that even measure the aspects of defensive play not involved with fielding balls hit to him? Looking at larger samples, he seems very streaky? So tough to guess how much of his recent offensive success is sustainable. If we could find somebody with a .320 wOBA and plus defense, that would likely be an improvement. the player you’re describing is like Ha Seong Kim, we can’t just find a guy like that and there are none likely to be available As for Valdez that’s why I called out batted ball luck, look at his xwOBA, other than a bad 6/22 he’s been crushing the ball since 6/11. Still a very small sample The Steamer(ROS) projection on Meidroth is pretty high. Not sure how realistic that is. Valdez has a chance, I agree, but needs more offensive consistency IMHO. Can't afford month long slumps between brief hot streaks.
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Post by pappyman99 on Jun 28, 2024 8:56:42 GMT -5
The rangers keep falling and Nate keeps calling out to us
Get to the playoffs and have Houck and Nate leading 1-2….. can dream
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Post by asm18 on Jun 28, 2024 10:09:37 GMT -5
This list is helpful - and the more-likely-than-not sellers list is starting to grow a bit. The Rangers and Tigers are 7 games back of the last wild card. And even in the NL you’re starting to see teams drop below that 2-3 games back margin. Is there anyone on this list ya’ll reckon could be had for cheap that they could buy low on? I’m actually kinda curious about Blake Snell, who has thrown 22 innings between groin injuries. He has not been good in those 22 innings, but he’s still getting swing and miss. Is that someone you could acquire for very little if the Giants punt, get him healthy, and hope to ride for 2.5 good months? (That he has a player option complicates any deal for him ALOT.)
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Post by incandenza on Jun 28, 2024 10:31:52 GMT -5
This list is helpful - and the more-likely-than-not sellers list is starting to grow a bit. The Rangers and Tigers are 7 games back of the last wild card. And even in the NL you’re starting to see teams drop below that 2-3 games back margin. Is there anyone on this list ya’ll reckon could be had for cheap that they could buy low on? I’m actually kinda curious about Blake Snell, who has thrown 22 innings between groin injuries. He has not been good in those 22 innings, but he’s still getting swing and miss. Is that someone you could acquire if the Giants punt, get him healthy, and hope to ride for 2.5 good months? (That he has a player option complicates any deal for him ALOT.) For reasons I've given, I think the list of front-line starters is basically the only one that's relevant to the Red Sox. So that would be:
I could see any of these other than Montas being a worthwhile pickup if the price is right, but I'd generally be reticent to buy in a seller's market on any rental when the Red Sox don't have a realistic shot at winning the division. I do think the Snell idea is kind of interesting but if the Giants don't eat any of the contract that would push the Red Sox over the LTT, no? I don't think they want to do that, and I don't think it makes a lot of sense to do that at this point. However, the funniest thing they could do would be to add Jordan Montgomery with Arizona eating some of his salary.
And here, I'll make it easy on redsoxchamps by listing all the middle infielders that might be available and he can tell us which one he thinks the Red Sox should add:
Bichette Rengifo Rosario DeJong Kiner-Falefa Tim Anderson Jeff McNeil Javy Baez
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Post by ematz1423 on Jun 28, 2024 10:56:56 GMT -5
This list is helpful - and the more-likely-than-not sellers list is starting to grow a bit. The Rangers and Tigers are 7 games back of the last wild card. And even in the NL you’re starting to see teams drop below that 2-3 games back margin. Is there anyone on this list ya’ll reckon could be had for cheap that they could buy low on? I’m actually kinda curious about Blake Snell, who has thrown 22 innings between groin injuries. He has not been good in those 22 innings, but he’s still getting swing and miss. Is that someone you could acquire if the Giants punt, get him healthy, and hope to ride for 2.5 good months? (That he has a player option complicates any deal for him ALOT.) For reasons I've given, I think the list of front-line starters is basically the only one that's relevant to the Red Sox. So that would be: I could see any of these other than Montas being a worthwhile pickup if the price is right, but I'd generally be reticent to buy in a seller's market on any rental when the Red Sox don't have a realistic shot at winning the division. I do think the Snell idea is kind of interesting but if the Giants don't eat any of the contract that would push the Red Sox over the LTT, no? I don't think they want to do that, and I don't think it makes a lot of sense to do that at this point. However, the funniest thing they could do would be to add Jordan Montgomery with Arizona eating some of his salary.
And here, I'll make it easy on redsoxchamps by listing all the middle infielders that might be available and he can tell us which one he thinks the Red Sox should add:
Bichette Rengifo Rosario DeJong Kiner-Falefa Tim Anderson Jeff McNeil Javy Baez
I think it'd be pretty close on Snell in terms of LTT, I am not really sure how it works with options and what not. I'd add just about any of those SPs to the Sox if the cost isn't too inflated and it wouldn't throw them over the LT though. For MI, I know he's having a down year and I really don't expect the Jays to deal him and if they did probably not within division but Bichette would be of interest to me, that's probably not likely at all though. Not to sound like a broken record nor open the can of worms again as we've both made our point of views known by now but I'd still take DeJong.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 28, 2024 11:02:39 GMT -5
Is there anyone on this list ya’ll reckon could be had for cheap that they could buy low on? I’m actually kinda curious about Blake Snell, who has thrown 22 innings between groin injuries. He has not been good in those 22 innings, but he’s still getting swing and miss. Is that someone you could acquire for very little if the Giants punt, get him healthy, and hope to ride for 2.5 good months? (That he has a player option complicates any deal for him ALOT.) I agree that Snell is kind of interesting and would def talk myself into him playing very well if we had him. He's owed $7.5 million the rest of the way (he got half his year one salary as a signing bonus already) and then has a $30 million player option which has significant negative value. The contract is underwater and realpolitik may demand that the already under fire Farhan Zaidi talk about how lucky they are to have an ace like Snell instead of locking in a L by dumping him for less than nothing.
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Post by bentossaurus on Jun 28, 2024 11:05:04 GMT -5
This list is helpful - and the more-likely-than-not sellers list is starting to grow a bit. The Rangers and Tigers are 7 games back of the last wild card. And even in the NL you’re starting to see teams drop below that 2-3 games back margin. Is there anyone on this list ya’ll reckon could be had for cheap that they could buy low on? I’m actually kinda curious about Blake Snell, who has thrown 22 innings between groin injuries. He has not been good in those 22 innings, but he’s still getting swing and miss. Is that someone you could acquire if the Giants punt, get him healthy, and hope to ride for 2.5 good months? (That he has a player option complicates any deal for him ALOT.) For reasons I've given, I think the list of front-line starters is basically the only one that's relevant to the Red Sox. So that would be: I could see any of these other than Montas being a worthwhile pickup if the price is right, but I'd generally be reticent to buy in a seller's market on any rental when the Red Sox don't have a realistic shot at winning the division. I do think the Snell idea is kind of interesting but if the Giants don't eat any of the contract that would push the Red Sox over the LTT, no? I don't think they want to do that, and I don't think it makes a lot of sense to do that at this point. However, the funniest thing they could do would be to add Jordan Montgomery with Arizona eating some of his salary.
And here, I'll make it easy on redsoxchamps by listing all the middle infielders that might be available and he can tell us which one he thinks the Red Sox should add: Bichette Rengifo Rosario DeJong Kiner-Falefa Tim Anderson Jeff McNeil Javy Baez
I see Kikuchi and Flaherty as reasonable adds if the price is right (think Valdez + a B prospect). But would only touch Snell if they took a bad contract in return as well, like Yoshida.
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Post by asm18 on Jun 28, 2024 11:20:50 GMT -5
Is there anyone on this list ya’ll reckon could be had for cheap that they could buy low on? I’m actually kinda curious about Blake Snell, who has thrown 22 innings between groin injuries. He has not been good in those 22 innings, but he’s still getting swing and miss. Is that someone you could acquire for very little if the Giants punt, get him healthy, and hope to ride for 2.5 good months? (That he has a player option complicates any deal for him ALOT.) I agree that Snell is kind of interesting and would def talk myself into him playing very well if we had him. He's owed $7.5 million the rest of the way (he got half his year one salary as a signing bonus already) and then has a $30 million player option which has significant negative value. The contract is underwater and realpolitik may demand that the already under fire Farhan Zaidi talk about how lucky they are to have an ace like Snell instead of locking in a L by dumping him for less than nothing. Yeah you read my mind. The Giants seem like they’ll be one of those NL teams that will gradually dip out of the Wild Card race (it’s currently still bunched up), and there would be incentive to move Snell ether to not lose him for nothing if he leaves or to not have to pay him 30 mil next year if decides to opt in. But Farhan might not have the same personal incentive as his team. Chris Young with the Rangers just got a contract extension after winning the World Series. I would imagine he’s not getting fired if he decides to sell Nate Eovaldi…
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Post by nomar on Jun 28, 2024 11:22:57 GMT -5
A Yoshida for Snell/Montgomery trade is an interesting thought. But then you’d have to find a bat. I know it’s in division and thus unlikely, but Yandy Diaz would be nice fit IMO. Diaz would give 1B/3B flexibility like Turner gave, has one more year on his deal, and his results have been great since April.
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Post by asm18 on Jun 28, 2024 11:41:25 GMT -5
For reasons I've given, I think the list of front-line starters is basically the only one that's relevant to the Red Sox. So that would be: 1. Garrett Crochet, LHP, White Sox 2. *Yusei Kikuchi, LHP, Blue Jays 3. *Jack Flaherty, RHP, Tigers 4. *Max Scherzer, RHP, Rangers 5. *Justin Verlander, RHP, Astros (IL) 6. Blake Snell, LHP, Giants ( IL) 7. *Luis Severino, RHP, Mets 8. *Nathan Eovaldi, RHP, Rangers 9. *Frankie Montas, RHP, Reds could see any of these other than Montas being a worthwhile pickup if the price is right, but I'd generally be reticent to buy in a seller's market on any rental when the Red Sox don't have a realistic shot at winning the division. I do think the Snell idea is kind of interesting but if the Giants don't eat any of the contract that would push the Red Sox over the LTT, no? I don't think they want to do that, and I don't think it makes a lot of sense to do that at this point. However, the funniest thing they could do would be to add Jordan Montgomery with Arizona eating some of his salary. Yeah I think in a seller’s market, it’s hard to imagine outbidding on certain guys. Like Snell, Montgomery - I’m sure one could list other examples, I’m just citing them for the sake of argument - the cost is theoretically lower because there are issues attached (health, performance, contract). But I wonder if that’s how you get your acquisition without giving up the farm. If you want a guy who’s great and has no issues teams are going to ask for elite (or at least very good) prospects back. And if you don’t agree they’ll hang up and call back a desperate and potentially high AJ Preller. Btw for trade discussion purposes, looks like Sox are 13 mil below CBT per SoxPayroll on SoxProspects.com.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 28, 2024 12:07:44 GMT -5
This list is helpful - and the more-likely-than-not sellers list is starting to grow a bit. The Rangers and Tigers are 7 games back of the last wild card. And even in the NL you’re starting to see teams drop below that 2-3 games back margin. Is there anyone on this list ya’ll reckon could be had for cheap that they could buy low on? I’m actually kinda curious about Blake Snell, who has thrown 22 innings between groin injuries. He has not been good in those 22 innings, but he’s still getting swing and miss. Is that someone you could acquire if the Giants punt, get him healthy, and hope to ride for 2.5 good months? (That he has a player option complicates any deal for him ALOT.) For reasons I've given, I think the list of front-line starters is basically the only one that's relevant to the Red Sox. So that would be: I could see any of these other than Montas being a worthwhile pickup if the price is right, but I'd generally be reticent to buy in a seller's market on any rental when the Red Sox don't have a realistic shot at winning the division. I do think the Snell idea is kind of interesting but if the Giants don't eat any of the contract that would push the Red Sox over the LTT, no? I don't think they want to do that, and I don't think it makes a lot of sense to do that at this point. However, the funniest thing they could do would be to add Jordan Montgomery with Arizona eating some of his salary.
And here, I'll make it easy on redsoxchamps by listing all the middle infielders that might be available and he can tell us which one he thinks the Red Sox should add: Bichette Rengifo Rosario DeJong Kiner-Falefa Tim Anderson Jeff McNeil Javy Baez
No idea. I said they could use a defensive boost and the amount of playing time for that boost depends upon their plans for Grissom later on this year, as in are they looking for a backup infielder or looking to shift Hamilton to 2b and get a guy playing pretty regularly at SS? Again, dont know the plan. Which guy? Couldnt tell you. Dont know who's really better than who defensively. I'm sure ths Sox brass can figure that out better than I could. Did you consider that perhaps your list of candidates isnt complete? Maybe there's somebody in AAA who is blocked and could help? Who knows? I mean was Pablo Reyes on your radar last year when the Sox brought him in? I had never heard of him, but he did help them last year even if he wore iut his welcome this year. Maybe there is nobody better than Romy. Hard for me to know because defensively he has moved around so much I haven't been able to come up with an opinion on his defense at SS. Dont know but I do know that I've read Breslow has been looking at SS at starting pitching so maybe it's not THAT far fetched that he might think there could be an upgrade there. But of course, at what cost and would it be worth it?
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Post by wamderingdude on Jun 28, 2024 12:34:18 GMT -5
I saw Redsoxstats mention this first, so as always shout out to them and the great work they do, but it is interesting Breslow has taken this hard “we need to pick a lane” stance when this is probably the year where buying and selling would be the most beneficial. Selling high on tyler O’neill and Kenley and replacing them with moving Rafaela back to Center full time and Hendriks while also buying a starter with control would be a pretty good deadline imo. The outfield is already a bit crowded and we give up some right handed power, but playing Duran, Rafaela, Wilyer/Refsnyder (platoon) everyday with Yoshida DHing would still be a great outfield and i’d assume we get a great piece back for TON. Even with Hendriks being a big risk i like our bullpen depth enough to live without Kenley.
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Post by awalkinthepark on Jun 28, 2024 12:34:40 GMT -5
It definitely seems like
- The Red Sox could use another young, stud starter that fits in with the current core of players - They have the prospect depth to pull off a big trade, especially if you buy Kristian Campbell's breakout - Trading for pitching is insanely risky, and can set your organization back years if you send away ~$100 million in prospect capital only to have the pitcher blow his arm out.
My guess is Breslow goes after arms he thinks are more diamond-in-the-rough types than true stars but I have no idea what direction the Sox will go in.
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Post by incandenza on Jun 28, 2024 12:43:37 GMT -5
I saw Redsoxstats mention this first, so as always shout out to them and the great work they do, but i t is interesting Breslow has taken this hard “we need to pick a lane” stance when this is probably the year where buying and selling would be the most beneficial. Selling high on tyler O’neill and Kenley and replacing them with moving Rafaela back to Center full time and Hendriks while also buying a starter with control would be a pretty good deadline imo. The outfield is already a bit crowded and we give up some right handed power, but playing Duran, Rafaela, Wilyer/Refsnyder (platoon) everyday with Yoshida DHing would still be a great outfield and i’d assume we get a great piece back for TON. Even with Hendriks being a big risk i like our bullpen depth enough to live without Kenley. I've noticed this too. Do you know when he first indicated this? I almost wonder if he was laying the groundwork to be a seller at the deadline even if they were close to a wild card (i.e., in a similar position to 2022 and 2023), only for the team to now be good enough that he's inadvertently laid the groundwork to be buyers.
Regardless of the rhetoric, I think it would make a ton of sense for the team to have a 2022-style trade deadline, assuming the standings remain about where they are between now and the end of July.
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Post by wamderingdude on Jun 28, 2024 12:50:10 GMT -5
I saw Redsoxstats mention this first, so as always shout out to them and the great work they do, but i t is interesting Breslow has taken this hard “we need to pick a lane” stance when this is probably the year where buying and selling would be the most beneficial. Selling high on tyler O’neill and Kenley and replacing them with moving Rafaela back to Center full time and Hendriks while also buying a starter with control would be a pretty good deadline imo. The outfield is already a bit crowded and we give up some right handed power, but playing Duran, Rafaela, Wilyer/Refsnyder (platoon) everyday with Yoshida DHing would still be a great outfield and i’d assume we get a great piece back for TON. Even with Hendriks being a big risk i like our bullpen depth enough to live without Kenley. I've noticed this too. Do you know when he first indicated this? I almost wonder if he was laying the groundwork to be a seller at the deadline even if they were close to a wild card (i.e., in a similar position to 2022 and 2023), only for the team to now be good enough that he's inadvertently laid the groundwork to be buyers.
Regardless of the rhetoric, I think it would make a ton of sense for the team to have a 2022-style trade deadline, assuming the standings remain about where they are between now and the end of July. The first instance i can find is a sit down with Alex Speier at the beginning of June. Add: i think laying the groundwork to sell makes a lot of sense. The playoff odds on June 6th, when i think the article ran, were down to 16 percent and dead last in the AL East. As of today they are 38 percent and third.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 28, 2024 12:57:42 GMT -5
I saw Redsoxstats mention this first, so as always shout out to them and the great work they do, but i t is interesting Breslow has taken this hard “we need to pick a lane” stance when this is probably the year where buying and selling would be the most beneficial. Selling high on tyler O’neill and Kenley and replacing them with moving Rafaela back to Center full time and Hendriks while also buying a starter with control would be a pretty good deadline imo. The outfield is already a bit crowded and we give up some right handed power, but playing Duran, Rafaela, Wilyer/Refsnyder (platoon) everyday with Yoshida DHing would still be a great outfield and i’d assume we get a great piece back for TON. Even with Hendriks being a big risk i like our bullpen depth enough to live without Kenley. I've noticed this too. Do you know when he first indicated this? I almost wonder if he was laying the groundwork to be a seller at the deadline even if they were close to a wild card (i.e., in a similar position to 2022 and 2023), only for the team to now be good enough that he's inadvertently laid the groundwork to be buyers.
Regardless of the rhetoric, I think it would make a ton of sense for the team to have a 2022-style trade deadline, assuming the standings remain about where they are between now and the end of July. I had taken it as they had identified that the historical records suggests that you really need to just provide players, fans and media with a clear narrative of what the team is doing, and "we sold a dollar for a hundred and six cents and also bought a quarter for just two dimes" is gonna lead to some headaches
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