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Post by kwodes on Nov 4, 2024 7:18:36 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 4, 2024 7:31:41 GMT -5
Can't say as I loved that piece at least in terms of their picks for who the most expensive FA they sign would be and most said Tanner Scott. If they could pull of a Crochet deal with Abreu and Crawford as the main pieces I'd be all for that. I especially did not like the trade Casas for Woo and then sign that Japanese 1st baseman either, not that I know anything about that guy but 1) I don't want to trade Casas and 2) if they do my hope would be they go after Christian Walker not some unproven guy from Japan.
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Post by costpet on Nov 4, 2024 7:37:40 GMT -5
Trade Grissom and anyone else to get bullpen help. Put Anthony in left, Campbell at 2b, ant Teel as backup catcher. If they can find someone better at 3b, make Devers a permanent DH. I think that lineup could challenge anyone. Maybe Rafela at 3b?
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Post by asm18 on Nov 4, 2024 7:40:09 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 4, 2024 7:57:27 GMT -5
That is a good point I hadn't even thought of, McAdam is perhaps one of the more decent baseball writers in Boston but when you put it that way I too find it hard to believe he just came up with that name on his own. |
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Post by chaimtime on Nov 4, 2024 8:31:48 GMT -5
As per usual, I am glad the beat guys don’t run the team
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Post by nomar on Nov 4, 2024 8:31:57 GMT -5
Okamoto is not nearly good enough of a hitter to start at 1B and trading Casas for Crotchet would be so stupid. |
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Post by asm18 on Nov 4, 2024 9:27:22 GMT -5
That prediction article is so all over the place between 1) things that could possibly be sourced information in terms of "ideas a team official mentioned as possibilities over drinks" and 2) things that seem to be just there for entertainment value (i.e. Cotillo predicting Soto to the Blue Jays because "It’s no fun to guess the Yankees or Mets")
The weirdest prediction to me was the Rays signing Nick Pivetta via Cotillo. Financially, they literally don't know where they're going to play baseball next year with the Trop ravaged by the hurricane. Or who is going to broadcast their games! And have a fairly set rotation for next year to boot: Shane McClanahan, Taj Bradley, Ryan Pepiot, Shane Baz, etc. Really didn't get that one
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Post by julyanmorley on Nov 4, 2024 9:46:01 GMT -5
Okamoto's Davenport Translations have him as a little better than big league average at the plate the last two years, bad before that
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 4, 2024 9:56:45 GMT -5
That prediction article is so all over the place between 1) things that could possibly be sourced information in terms of "ideas a team official mentioned as possibilities over drinks" and 2) things that seem to be just there for entertainment value (i.e. Cotillo predicting Soto to the Blue Jays because "It’s no fun to guess the Yankees or Mets") The weirdest prediction to me was the Rays signing Nick Pivetta via Cotillo. Financially, they literally don't know where they're going to play baseball next year with the Trop ravaged by the hurricane. Or who is going to broadcast their games! And have a fairly set rotation for next year to boot: Shane McClanahan, Taj Bradley, Ryan Pepiot, Shane Baz, etc. Really didn't get that one I could maybe see the Rays because they did something similar with Efflin and maybe they see Pivetta in that same mold of guys they can bring to the next level but still don't see them giving him 15M~ though no. |
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 4, 2024 10:27:08 GMT -5
That prediction article is so all over the place between 1) things that could possibly be sourced information in terms of "ideas a team official mentioned as possibilities over drinks" and 2) things that seem to be just there for entertainment value (i.e. Cotillo predicting Soto to the Blue Jays because "It’s no fun to guess the Yankees or Mets") The weirdest prediction to me was the Rays signing Nick Pivetta via Cotillo. Financially, they literally don't know where they're going to play baseball next year with the Trop ravaged by the hurricane. Or who is going to broadcast their games! And have a fairly set rotation for next year to boot: Shane McClanahan, Taj Bradley, Ryan Pepiot, Shane Baz, etc. Really didn't get that one McAdam, are you in here?? |
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Post by costpet on Nov 4, 2024 10:35:44 GMT -5
LF Anthony LH
CF Duran LH
RF Abreu LH
3b Rafela RH
SS Story RH
2B Campbell RH
1B Casas LH
DH Devers LH
C Wong RH
C Teel LH Backup
Bench Grissom
Hamilton
Heavy left-handed, but all good hitters.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Nov 4, 2024 10:44:48 GMT -5
LF Anthony LH CF Duran LH RF Abreu LH 3b Rafela RH SS Story RH 2B Campbell RH 1B Casas LH DH Devers LH C Wong RH C Teel LH Backup Bench Grissom Hamilton Heavy left-handed, but all good hitters. Rafaela has all of 7 major league innings at third and is not someone I would consider a "good" hitter, unless you're just talking about the lefties. |
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Nov 4, 2024 16:46:10 GMT -5
LF Anthony LH CF Duran LH RF Abreu LH 3b Rafela RH SS Story RH 2B Campbell RH 1B Casas LH DH Devers LH C Wong RH C Teel LH Backup Bench Grissom Hamilton Heavy left-handed, but all good hitters. Rafaela has all of 7 major league innings at third and is not someone I would consider a "good" hitter, unless you're just talking about the lefties. Agreed. I get that Duran had a solid year in CF defensively, but not playing Rafaela there would be foolish. Also, as much as I love Abreu, he’s as good as gone this offseason. EDIT: This also doesn’t account for Yoshida who, unless there’s someone dumb enough to take him coming off a shoulder surgery, is nearly a sure bet to be on the roster as the DH. |
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Post by finaliz3d on Nov 4, 2024 16:48:10 GMT -5
Rafaela has all of 7 major league innings at third and is not someone I would consider a "good" hitter, unless you're just talking about the lefties. Agreed. I get that Duran had a solid year in CF defensively, but not playing Rafaela there would be foolish. Also, as much as I love Abreu, he’s as good as gone this offseason. EDIT: This also doesn’t account for Yoshida who, unless there’s someone dumb enough to take him coming off a shoulder surgery, is nearly a sure bet to be on the roster as the DH. Yeah, it's been litigated enough so I'm not going to go over the "Devers needs to be a DH now" faction of the fanbase, but Rafaela at 3B would just be such a waste of his abilities. As for Yoshida, I'm still convinced that we need a legit right-handed bat and I don't know where else that person is going to play besides DH. |
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Post by Guidas on Nov 4, 2024 17:05:40 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks any trade of Casas for anything less than a #1 with at least 3 years of control is nuts? I mean if you told me they were going to package Casas and Anthony and another top 5-10 guy for Skenes, then, OK. But for an oft-broken pitcher who just pitched twice his career innings? No thanks. |
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 4, 2024 17:07:50 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks any trade of Casas for anything less than a #1 with at least 3 years of control is nuts? I mean if you told me they were going to package Casas and Anthony and another top 5-10 guy for Skenes, then, OK. But for an oft-broken pitcher who just pitched twice his career innings? No thanks. Nope you aren't the only one, I'm right there with you. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 4, 2024 17:34:17 GMT -5
As per usual, I am glad the beat guys don’t run the team These guys arent writing what they think should happen but rather they are predicting what the front office will do. And if the front office makes a number of these moves I wont be happy. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 4, 2024 17:36:28 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks any trade of Casas for anything less than a #1 with at least 3 years of control is nuts? I mean if you told me they were going to package Casas and Anthony and another top 5-10 guy for Skenes, then, OK. But for an oft-broken pitcher who just pitched twice his career innings? No thanks. Agreed, that big moose is going to break out big time at some point soon. Then they'd be wishing they had a bat like Casas. |
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Post by shagworthy on Nov 4, 2024 17:46:11 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks any trade of Casas for anything less than a #1 with at least 3 years of control is nuts? I mean if you told me they were going to package Casas and Anthony and another top 5-10 guy for Skenes, then, OK. But for an oft-broken pitcher who just pitched twice his career innings? No thanks. Agreed, that big moose is going to break out big time at some point soon. Then they'd be wishing they had a bat like Casas. I don't know about nuts, but improbable. We all look at our young guys with Rose colored lenses. Let's be real, Casas is an average to below average defender, whose value is all in his bat, and has yet to be able to complete a full season due to injury. Yes, the potential is tantalizing, but it's not like we haven't seen this film before where a guy fizzes out due to injuries that sap him of his ability. I'm not saying trade him tomorrow, I am saying if a more sure (track record wise) deal is out there, you can't ignore it. |
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Post by incandenza on Nov 4, 2024 18:12:46 GMT -5
Agreed, that big moose is going to break out big time at some point soon. Then they'd be wishing they had a bat like Casas. I don't know about nuts, but improbable. We all look at our young guys with Rose colored lenses. Let's be real, Casas is an average to below average defender, whose value is all in his bat, and has yet to be able to complete a full season due to injury. Yes, the potential is tantalizing, but it's not like we haven't seen this film before where a guy fizzes out due to injuries that sap him of his ability. I'm not saying trade him tomorrow, I am saying if a more sure (track record wise) deal is out there, you can't ignore it. The argument can't be "he's not that good so they should trade him" because that just means he won't get a very good return. The argument (if there is one) would have to be "he's a really valuable asset so they'll get a big return and they have a plan to replace his production." |
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Post by blizzards39 on Nov 4, 2024 19:01:05 GMT -5
3 guys id look at trading are
Wong, Bello and Rafaella. Try and turn them ( along with mid teir prospects) into a top starter. Alcantera, Kirby, Chrochet. And some bullpen depth.
Keep the big 4 and Casas duran and Abrau.
Sign Teo
Either pivetta or sign Flahrety or kikuchi or like
Sign kelly or dArnaud
CF Duran
3B Devers
DH /LF
1B Casas
SS story
RF / LF Teo Abrau / Anthony
LF / RF Campbell/ Anthony
C dAnaud or
2B Grissom / Campbell / Hamilton
Houck
Kirby
Pivetta or
Gio
Crawford
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 4, 2024 19:11:16 GMT -5
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Nov 4, 2024 19:14:49 GMT -5
Very much worth noting they all think the Sox will be extremely involved at the top of the market |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Nov 4, 2024 19:18:14 GMT -5
3 guys id look at trading are Wong, Bello and Rafaella. Try and turn them ( along with mid teir prospects) into a top starter. Alcantera, Kirby, Chrochet. And some bullpen depth. Keep the big 4 and Casas duran and Abrau. Sign Teo Either pivetta or sign Flahrety or kikuchi or like Sign kelly or dArnaud CF Duran 3B Devers DH /LF 1B Casas SS story RF / LF Teo Abrau / Anthony LF / RF Campbell/ Anthony C dAnaud or 2B Grissom / Campbell / Hamilton Houck Kirby Pivetta or Gio Crawford I’m not sure I’ve seen an idea for this offseason that I’ve disliked more than trading Bello |
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