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Post by Guidas on Nov 27, 2024 15:17:40 GMT -5
I'm going to frequent Walmart for the next week or two. That way I can hopefully tell the story that I feel to my knees in a Walmart when we signed Soto. That's why I haven't left Waffle House since 3 weeks, 4 days, 15 hours and 37 seconds ago. |
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Post by asm18 on Nov 27, 2024 15:20:20 GMT -5
Does anyone have any insight into the Yankee fan perspective and narrative towards Soto? It’s along the lines of “he spent a year here and loved it” and “Hal will pony up when it counts.” Them signing Judge has (understandably) given them the type of confidence that many Red Sox fans don’t have - they kept their homegrown superstar, we traded ours away. I think there’s some rose-colored glasses though where they think Soto will stay there if the money is less. And it’s like… fellas, no. I have a Yankee fan family member who has their odds to keep him at 60% 🤷♂️ |
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 27, 2024 15:28:26 GMT -5
I feel like Soto isn't staying with the Yankees either way, not saying it'll be to go to Boston but I would love to see the reaction if/when he does leave. Either it's to the crosstown team or the hated team in Boston either way probably their two biggest rivals and they would flip their lids. Ready for that either way.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Nov 27, 2024 15:39:41 GMT -5
I think it's really down to the Mets and us.
Unless LA swoops in again and absolutely owns the offseason....again.
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Post by maxwellsdemon on Nov 27, 2024 15:58:03 GMT -5
Steve Cohen net worth: 21.6 billion
Mark Walter net wortrh: 12 billion per Fortune or 6.2 billion per Forbes (huge bid/ask there)
John Henry net worth: 6 billion
Hank & Hal Steinbrenner: 3 billion
Yankees ain't signing Soto
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Post by greenmonster on Nov 27, 2024 15:58:35 GMT -5
Does anyone have any insight into the Yankee fan perspective and narrative towards Soto? It’s along the lines of “he spent a year here and loved it” and “Hal will pony up when it counts.” Them signing Judge has (understandably) given them the type of confidence that many Red Sox fans don’t have - they kept their homegrown superstar, we traded ours away. I think there’s some rose-colored glasses though where they think Soto will stay there if the money is less. And it’s like… fellas, no. I have a Yankee fan family member who has their odds to keep him at 60% 🤷♂️ I don't recall where I saw it (most likely right here up thread) but it mentioned that Judge and Soto had ZERO contact with each other since the season ended. IMO, if that's true then it speaks volumes. Judge and Soto don't necessarily have to be best friends, but I would think the "captain" would at least reach out to Soto with something along the lines of.......... "Hey Juan I know you need to go threw this process. I did it not too long ago. I just want you to know that the New York Yankees want you back." |
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Post by blizzards39 on Nov 27, 2024 16:02:53 GMT -5
Steve Cohen net worth: 21.6 billion Mark Walter net wortrh: 12 billion per Fortune or 6.2 billion per Forbes (huge bid/ask there) John Henry net worth: 6 billion Hank & Hal Steinbrenner: 3 billion Yankees ain't signing Soto Ted Rogers 13B. Its not all about who has the most |
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Post by cdj on Nov 27, 2024 16:07:40 GMT -5
Steve Cohen net worth: 21.6 billion Mark Walter net wortrh: 12 billion per Fortune or 6.2 billion per Forbes (huge bid/ask there) John Henry net worth: 6 billion Hank & Hal Steinbrenner: 3 billion Yankees ain't signing Soto The love and adoration from Red Sox fans: priceless |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Nov 27, 2024 16:16:39 GMT -5
Steve Cohen net worth: 21.6 billion Mark Walter net wortrh: 12 billion per Fortune or 6.2 billion per Forbes (huge bid/ask there) John Henry net worth: 6 billion Hank & Hal Steinbrenner: 3 billion Yankees ain't signing Soto Ted Rogers 13B. Its not all about who has the most Also net worth doesn’t mean the amount of money that they have on hand to spend, there’s probably a general correlation there but certainly not a 1-to-1 |
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Post by trotman on Nov 27, 2024 16:19:15 GMT -5
It's been 4 hours since the Marino Pepen tweet about Ortiz meeting with Juan Soto soon. Not sure if it has any legs but the Pepen tweet quotes Ortiz. Hector hasn't mentioned anything yet nor any other account. At work so I can't link to Twitter and just sitting here refreshing news.
The Ortiz quote tweeted is "I was unable to meet with Juan Soto, but will soon. I am committed to showing Juan and his family the legacy and history of being a Red Sox. He will have a great contract in every sense of the word."
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Post by julyanmorley on Nov 27, 2024 16:22:09 GMT -5
Oh no, what if Marino Pepen breaks the Soto deal via Papi and then we have to take seriously Marino Pepen from now on
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 27, 2024 16:23:04 GMT -5
It's been 4 hours since the Marino Pepen tweet about Ortiz meeting with Juan Soto soon. Not sure if it has any legs but the Pepen tweet quotes Ortiz. Hector hasn't mentioned anything yet nor any other account. At work so I can't link to Twitter and just sitting here refreshing news. The Ortiz quote tweeted is "I was unable to meet with Juan Soto, but will soon. I am committed to showing Juan and his family the legacy and history of being a Red Sox. He will have a great contract in every sense of the word." Maybe I'm just being hopeful but I want to believe that if the Red Sox put up the same money or close to anyone else Soto will choose the sox with big papi being the trump card. The question is will the sox do that? |
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Post by taiwansox on Nov 27, 2024 16:28:18 GMT -5
Oh no, what if Marino Pepen breaks the Soto deal via Papi and then we have to take seriously Marino Pepen from now on Devers extension and Soto just means he has a DR connection, hope this is a trend lol |
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Post by blizzards39 on Nov 27, 2024 16:29:37 GMT -5
It's been 4 hours since the Marino Pepen tweet about Ortiz meeting with Juan Soto soon. Not sure if it has any legs but the Pepen tweet quotes Ortiz. Hector hasn't mentioned anything yet nor any other account. At work so I can't link to Twitter and just sitting here refreshing news. The Ortiz quote tweeted is "I was unable to meet with Juan Soto, but will soon. I am committed to showing Juan and his family the legacy and history of being a Red Sox. He will have a great contract in every sense of the word." Maybe I'm just being hopeful but I want to believe that if the Red Sox put up the same money or close to anyone else Soto will choose the sox with big papi being the trump card. The question is will the sox do that? Have the the Advantage Have the dom rep history The ortiz / pedro push He can be the guy It comes to JH. Will he get to that needed number. Im thinking 620-680 real $ depending on how much Soto balues the other stuff. Could prob be 700 on paper he he wants that. But will John Henry |
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Post by asm18 on Nov 27, 2024 16:30:18 GMT -5
Pepen breaks the Soto news and “Seguimos, Positivo y OK” becomes the new state motto of Massachusetts
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Post by julyanmorley on Nov 27, 2024 16:33:55 GMT -5
Currently imagining Big Papi as Richard Roma in a smoky lounge talking to an unkempt Juan Soto
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Nov 27, 2024 16:34:22 GMT -5
If Soto signs with Boston I’m going to the roof of my house and chugging Celsius like Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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Post by greenmonster on Nov 27, 2024 16:36:49 GMT -5
Clearly Papi is inviting Soto to his house for Thanksgiving dinner. Breslow is bringing the pie!
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Post by julyanmorley on Nov 27, 2024 16:44:45 GMT -5
From Heyman. Really don't like the sound of opt outs in a 15 year deal.
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on Nov 27, 2024 16:47:42 GMT -5
Clearly Papi is inviting Soto to his house for Thanksgiving dinner. Breslow is bringing the pie! Poor Paul Taboni, he's going to have to get food poisoning to recreate the Thanksgiving 2003 magic. |
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Post by asm18 on Nov 27, 2024 16:52:24 GMT -5
What is an opt-out “worth” in terms of dollars and cents? Like if Soto likes 13/620 with multiple opts out, what dollar amount do you have to hit in terms of a straight line deal for it to be worth his while
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 27, 2024 16:53:58 GMT -5
I understand that opt outs are not meant to be good for teams but in the case of potential 15 year contract would it really be that bad if the sox game him one and he balled out till he was 31 and then left before his prime ended?
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Post by pappyman99 on Nov 27, 2024 16:55:21 GMT -5
I understand that opt outs are not meant to be good for teams but in the case of potential 15 year contract would it really be that bad if the sox game him one and he balled out till he was 31 and then left before his prime ended? This is what I am thinking too |
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Post by julyanmorley on Nov 27, 2024 16:57:36 GMT -5
What is an opt-out “worth” in terms of dollars and cents? Like if Soto likes 13/620 with multiple opts out, what dollar amount do you have to hit in terms of a straight line deal for it to be worth his while The way I look at it is to just look at the contract as being for the pre-opt out years. Then make a wild ass guess at how much negative value the player option has - % he takes it times how bad is it when he does. So let's say it's 6/300 with a 7/300 player option. He opts in 50% of the time and is worth $150 million on average when he does - that's negative $75 million of value to the team. So it's basically a 6/375 deal. |
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 27, 2024 16:58:02 GMT -5
I understand that opt outs are not meant to be good for teams but in the case of potential 15 year contract would it really be that bad if the sox game him one and he balled out till he was 31 and then left before his prime ended? This is what I am thinking too Ha I'm glad I'm not the only one. I really do understand that opt outs aren't usually beneficial for teams but generally contracts don't go 15 years. |
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