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Post by greenmonster on Nov 13, 2024 20:40:26 GMT -5
Didn't expect Taxachusetts to be an advantage....
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Post by Smittyw on Nov 13, 2024 20:42:31 GMT -5
ChatGPT also suggested Nick Yorke and Alex Verdugo as part of a Red Sox trade package for Garrett Crochet, so do with that what you will.
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Post by Guidas on Nov 13, 2024 20:43:34 GMT -5
Yet another reason to bring back PEDs. Gave guys longer careers and fans more stars. And high school and college athletes more tumors. Plus old players can die sooner and we'll have more retrospectives about how awesome they were. A win all around? So, we need a sarcasm font…
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Post by Guidas on Nov 13, 2024 20:44:48 GMT -5
They need a vulgar display of power. Since 18 team, the Red Sox have NOT been a big market team. That’s fine for nerdy fans, but this is the time to assert dominance again. I don’t think you achieve that by just handing out big contracts, you need at least one really stupid contract. There’s no better guy to get one than Soto. But like I said before, I’ll believe it when I see it. They haven’t earned my faith my back since trading Mookie. I feel seen.
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Post by finaliz3d on Nov 13, 2024 20:46:16 GMT -5
Wasn’t the meeting today? Rumor is Yankees Monday and Blue Jays Friday, so I'd guess Red Sox Saturday and Mets Sunday. These are rumors + my speculation so who knows if they are true.
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Post by asm18 on Nov 13, 2024 20:46:52 GMT -5
Jon Heyman did a talking head spot today and he's no longer bringing up any teams other than the Mets, Yankees, Blue Jays and Red Sox. I like our chances against two 110% tax teams and the last place Jays. Baltimore would be the scariest team imo. Payroll is still under $100 million. But nobody has connected them. We haven’t heard much about Baltimore’s plans aside from Elias simply saying the payroll will certainly go up. It’s sort of surprising. Maybe their new owners aren’t as eager to ramp up spending as anticipated yet? That is strange there’s been nothing from their end on this. Not even a Heyman rumor/Boras posturing
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Post by grandsalami on Nov 13, 2024 20:51:47 GMT -5
And high school and college athletes more tumors. Plus old players can die sooner and we'll have more retrospectives about how awesome they were. A win all around? So, we need a sarcasm font… If we are going to make steroids legal again we should go all the way and swap the wooden bats for metsl bats. Imagine a fan trying to catch a line drive hit right at them by a metal bat
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Post by badfishnbc on Nov 13, 2024 20:59:14 GMT -5
Jon Heyman did a talking head spot today and he's no longer bringing up any teams other than the Mets, Yankees, Blue Jays and Red Sox. I like our chances against two 110% tax teams and the last place Jays. Baltimore would be the scariest team imo. Payroll is still under $100 million. But nobody has connected them. We haven’t heard much about Baltimore’s plans aside from Elias simply saying the payroll will certainly go up. It’s sort of surprising. Maybe their new owners aren’t as eager to ramp up spending as anticipated yet? That is strange there’s been nothing from their end on this. Not even a Heyman rumor/Boras posturing This worries me. They now have one of the richest owners in the game. I’d pencil them in as a perpetual mystery team until they’re ready to make their presence known.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Nov 13, 2024 20:59:54 GMT -5
Given how public the rest of Soto's meetings are, I can't imagine they're all that involved
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Post by grandsalami on Nov 13, 2024 21:03:23 GMT -5
On the other hand.
Steroids + metal bats means we may have literal moon shots
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Post by badfishnbc on Nov 13, 2024 21:04:03 GMT -5
ChatGPT also suggested Nick Yorke and Alex Verdugo as part of a Red Sox trade package for Garrett Crochet, so do with that what you will. Can’t wait for the first team to farm out personnel decisions to AI. Gonna be a bloodbath.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Nov 13, 2024 21:08:19 GMT -5
Given how public the rest of Soto's meetings are, I can't imagine they're all that involved Incorrect.
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Post by incandenza on Nov 13, 2024 21:12:41 GMT -5
Given how public the rest of Soto's meetings are, I can't imagine they're all that involved Incorrect. Meaning the inference isn't valid and that public silence doesn't mean the Orioles necessarily aren't involved? Or are you saying that they are in fact involved?
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Nov 13, 2024 21:18:26 GMT -5
Given how public the rest of Soto's meetings are, I can't imagine they're all that involved Incorrect. You don’t know anything Stats!** ** except for the things you say that validate my priors or are beneficial to the Sox
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Post by RedSoxStats on Nov 13, 2024 21:26:01 GMT -5
You don’t know anything Stats!** ** except for the things you say that validate my priors or are beneficial to the Sox My bad, if you were referring to the O's, I have no idea. If you were referring to the Sox, they are very involved.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Nov 13, 2024 21:29:10 GMT -5
You don’t know anything Stats!** ** except for the things you say that validate my priors or are beneficial to the Sox My bad, if you were referring to the O's, I have no idea. If you were referring to the Sox, they are very involved. First I was just messing with you but yeah my comment was that given that Soto’s meetings have been pretty publicized and that the Orioles aren’t mentioned, I feel it’s hard to be all too concerned about them as a threat. Doesn’t mean they aren’t but I’m just following the smoke
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Post by keninten on Nov 13, 2024 22:06:51 GMT -5
I asked ChatGPT about the tax implications of these 4 clubs and thought the response interesting enough to share: “For a hypothetical 15-year, $600 million contract for Juan Soto, his after-tax income would vary significantly depending on which team he plays for, primarily due to differing state (or provincial) tax rates, city taxes, and the impact of the “jock tax” (which requires athletes to pay income tax in states or provinces where they play away games). 1. New York Yankees and New York Mets: Both teams fall under New York’s top state income tax rate, which is about 10.9% for high-income earners. New York City also imposes an additional local tax of around 3.9% on residents, making New York one of the highest-taxing areas for athletes. The combined state and city taxes, along with the U.S. federal tax rate of up to 37%, would result in a significant reduction in Soto’s after-tax income if he were to play for either of these New York-based teams. The “jock tax” would still apply for away games in other states, but most of the income would be taxed at New York rates. 2. Boston Red Sox: Massachusetts has a slightly lower state income tax rate of 5% compared to New York, but it remains high overall. With the federal tax rate included, Soto would still pay a substantial amount in taxes if he joined the Red Sox. Boston doesn’t have an additional city tax on income like New York City, making the total tax burden lower than in New York but still significant. 3. Toronto Blue Jays: Playing in Canada presents unique tax considerations. Ontario’s top tax rate for high-income earners reaches 49.53% (combined federal and provincial rates). However, as a U.S. resident, Soto would be taxed in Canada only on earnings from “home games” played in Canada (about 45% of the season). He would still owe U.S. taxes on his global income but could claim credits for taxes paid in Canada, effectively meaning he would pay the higher of the two tax rates for income earned on Canadian soil. This scenario would likely lead to a complex tax situation but ultimately a comparable or slightly lower tax burden than in New York  . In summary, based on tax rates alone, Soto would retain more of his earnings in Massachusetts or Canada than in New York due to New York’s additional city tax and higher combined rates. However, Canada’s unique tax situation for athletes would add complexity, potentially making Toronto a less favorable choice despite some financial advantages.” 1. More endorsement deals in NY so it could balance things out. 2. Didn`t MA add a millionaires tax a couple years ago? 3. I know nothing (in my Sergeant Schultz voice).
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Post by asm18 on Nov 13, 2024 22:19:18 GMT -5
We’re having actual tangible discussions about the Red Sox pursuing Juan Soto
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Post by cdj on Nov 13, 2024 22:28:24 GMT -5
Soto leaving the Yankees for the Sox would be top 3-5 greatest thing that’s ever happened to me
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Post by kwodes on Nov 13, 2024 22:47:36 GMT -5
Soto leaving the Yankees for the Sox would be top 3-5 greatest thing that’s ever happened to me 3-5? Idk how my wedding day or my children being born could possibly top Soto coming to Boston.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Nov 13, 2024 23:59:53 GMT -5
I've put no stock in Soto coming to Boston for various reasons then I came across this, "During an interview with ElPadiTV from 2021, Soto called the Red Sox his favorite ballclub, growing up watching and idolizing Dominican legends that helped lead to Boston's 2004 and 2007 World Series victories.
"Since I was a child, my favorite MLB team was always Boston because of the Dominicans who played with them: Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz and Pedro [Martinez]. The Red Sox have always been my favorite team." Maybe it's not as crazy as I once thought. Its from an article on Fansided.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Nov 14, 2024 0:23:36 GMT -5
I've put no stock in Soto coming to Boston for various reasons then I came across this, "During an interview with ElPadiTV from 2021, Soto called the Red Sox his favorite ballclub, growing up watching and idolizing Dominican legends that helped lead to Boston's 2004 and 2007 World Series victories. "Since I was a child, my favorite MLB team was always Boston because of the Dominicans who played with them: Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz and Pedro [Martinez]. The Red Sox have always been my favorite team." Maybe it's not as crazy as I once thought. Its from an article on Fansided. HOLY SHIT, I LOVE THIS!!!Still not holding my breath with both NY clubs fully engaged but maybe it's a tiebreaker?
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Post by awalkinthepark on Nov 14, 2024 1:02:21 GMT -5
Something about this is giving me old school Red Sox - Yankees vibes, where the Yankees would swoop in and get the high priced FA after all the rumors linking them to Boston swirled for a few weeks.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 14, 2024 1:11:06 GMT -5
It's great that the Sox were his favorite team growing up but I doubt that's going to have much sway in his choosing of a team.
I believe money, the highest bidder, will be the determining factor, and even though I think the Sox are sincere in their interest and could very well be willing to top 500 million I dont see them going into the 600 - 700 million range that I think the Yankees and especially Cohen and the Mets are willing to go. I think he ultimately winds up on the Mets although I do think the Yankees are a distinct possibility.
I dont think the Sox wind up with Soto, but the encouraging thing is that I no longer think it's a zero percent chance- maybe I'll give them a 5% chance. Not expecting it, but am curious as to how high the Sox are willing to go.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Nov 14, 2024 1:36:04 GMT -5
Darn….. darn you all for making me think Juan Soto is a reality.
My daily work production has now officially dropped 10% until he signs somewhere.
Is Durans chip for an elite pitcher in said scenario? Or does Rafaela become the super utility type? Still feel Abreu is a goner in the later scenario. Which I prefer actually, a the thought of a Soto/Duran/Anthony outfield is making me giddy.
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