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Post by asm18 on Nov 14, 2024 11:30:59 GMT -5
Expectations - HIGH
Hope - HIGH
Work Productivity - DOWN
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Post by rkarp on Nov 14, 2024 11:32:20 GMT -5
I just can't bring myself to have any expectations in regards to Soto but the fact that it is being reported they are true players on a guy who is going to potentially set the record for largest contract does raise my expectations that they are spending some serious dough this offseason. I already had that expectation but this is definitely a good sign to me. my assumption/expectation is more than SHO
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Post by julyanmorley on Nov 14, 2024 11:36:08 GMT -5
I'm blowing past "needing to tell myself not to get my hopes up for Soto" straight into "needing to tell myself not to get my hopes up for Soto, Crochet plus Sasaki"
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Post by ephus on Nov 14, 2024 11:37:19 GMT -5
Why, God why? Why do I let them pull me back in? I am so in with making the Red Sox the Dominican All Stars 2.0. Sign Soto, gte get Sandy Alcantara, bring in Vladdy, Jr. Forget the well-laid plans. Let's be dominant and win chips. Nothing else matters.
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Post by bloomstaxonomy on Nov 14, 2024 11:40:39 GMT -5
The Yankees are meeting with him next Monday, so we probably won't have a decision until next week at the earliest. Unfortunately.
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Post by nomar on Nov 14, 2024 11:44:08 GMT -5
The Yankees are meeting with him next Monday, so we probably won't have a decision until next week at the earliest. Unfortunately. I just hope he makes up his mind quickly instead of driving the offseason to a screeching halt and drumming up a media frenzy for himself, only to sign with the most obvious team. The Red Sox basically need Soto and Pivetta to make decisions before they can really make moves.
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Post by rkarp on Nov 14, 2024 11:48:18 GMT -5
The Yankees are meeting with him next Monday, so we probably won't have a decision until next week at the earliest. Unfortunately. I just hope he makes up his mind quickly instead of driving the offseason to a screeching halt and drumming up a media frenzy for himself, only to sign with the most obvious team. The Red Sox basically need Soto and Pivetta to make decisions before they can really make moves. I think Pivetta has an easy decision
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 14, 2024 11:49:31 GMT -5
Do not let him leave the room.
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Post by grandsalami on Nov 14, 2024 11:52:53 GMT -5
Do not let him leave the room. Sir. Holding someone hostage is illegal.
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Post by johnnygooch on Nov 14, 2024 11:54:02 GMT -5
My god I can't believe that I'm letting myself believe that we're going to sign him.
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Post by fenwaydouble on Nov 14, 2024 11:55:02 GMT -5
What do people think the odds are that whoever signs Soto ends up regretting it? To be clear, I am on the bandwagon and will be shouting war cries in the office parking lot if they land him. But there’s a pretty sizeable chance that giving out the largest contract in the sport’s history backfires in a big way, no?
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Post by crossedsabres8 on Nov 14, 2024 11:56:12 GMT -5
I feel like the Mets are more of a threat than the Yankees. They have less money committed and Cohen has more money to spend.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 14, 2024 11:59:16 GMT -5
Do not let him leave the room. Sir. Holding someone hostage is illegal. Desperate times call for desperate measures 😂
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Post by chaimtime on Nov 14, 2024 11:59:35 GMT -5
What do people think the odds are that whoever signs Soto ends up regretting it? To be clear, I am on the bandwagon and will be shouting war cries in the office parking lot if they land him. But there’s a pretty sizeable chance that giving out the largest contract in the sport’s history backfires in a big way, no? 0.01%. The Red Sox are in on him because he’s as low risk a free agent that you’ll see. The floor is driving the valuation as much as the ceiling here.
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 14, 2024 12:02:48 GMT -5
What do people think the odds are that whoever signs Soto ends up regretting it? To be clear, I am on the bandwagon and will be shouting war cries in the office parking lot if they land him. But there’s a pretty sizeable chance that giving out the largest contract in the sport’s history backfires in a big way, no? Almost 100 percent at some point in the contract the signing team will be wishing he wasn't taking up 40-50M anymore, it's just the nature of the beast when you're talking these types of long term deals.
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Post by Smittyw on Nov 14, 2024 12:04:03 GMT -5
The Yankees are meeting with him next Monday, so we probably won't have a decision until next week at the earliest. Unfortunately. I just hope he makes up his mind quickly instead of driving the offseason to a screeching halt and drumming up a media frenzy for himself, only to sign with the most obvious team. The Red Sox basically need Soto and Pivetta to make decisions before they can really make moves. Given Boras' involvement, I think we're wildly underestimating how long this could drag out. Here's to hoping, though.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 14, 2024 12:07:54 GMT -5
What do people think the odds are that whoever signs Soto ends up regretting it? To be clear, I am on the bandwagon and will be shouting war cries in the office parking lot if they land him. But there’s a pretty sizeable chance that giving out the largest contract in the sport’s history backfires in a big way, no? I think he's the lowest-risk free agent since Bonds hit in after the 1992 season. He's very athletic, but his value doesn't really come directly from his athleticism, you know? It's more that his athleticism and strength just reinforce his skills and make him an even better player. He's got that great approach, and so many of the approach-based guys are the ones who aren't the superior athletes, so as the athleticism slips they're not able to hurt you in other ways so pitchers are more aggressive with them and the walks dry up. That's not the case here.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Nov 14, 2024 12:08:28 GMT -5
If they don't sign him, unfortunately, "all out" is going to be the new "full throttle"
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 14, 2024 12:13:20 GMT -5
From RSS Bluesky account Its great to read that the Sox are supposedly putting their best foot forward but I'm also sure the Mets will go all out to sign him and so will the Yankees. Itll likely come down to simply who offers the most $. So while this is great to hear it doesnt really change my expectations - the best thing I get out if that us they really, really want him and are trying hard to get him. Doesnt mean they will but am glad they're trying like hell.
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Post by asm18 on Nov 14, 2024 12:26:18 GMT -5
Does anyone have any priceless art we can dangle in front of Steve Cohen like a cat toy for rich people the next 3 weeks
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Nov 14, 2024 12:32:43 GMT -5
I just hope he makes up his mind quickly instead of driving the offseason to a screeching halt and drumming up a media frenzy for himself, only to sign with the most obvious team. The Red Sox basically need Soto and Pivetta to make decisions before they can really make moves. Given Boras' involvement, I think we're wildly underestimating how long this could drag out. Here's to hoping, though. I think after he dropped the ball with his players last year, I’d feel pretty strongly Boras will want this Soto saga to be wrapped up before the end of the year.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Nov 14, 2024 12:34:15 GMT -5
From RSS Bluesky account Its great to read that the Sox are supposedly putting their best foot forward but I'm also sure the Mets will go all out to sign him and so will the Yankees. Itll likely come down to simply who offers the most $. So while this is great to hear it doesnt really change my expectations - the best thing I get out if that us they really, really want him and are trying hard to get him. Doesnt mean they will but am glad they're trying like hell. As what was noted earlier in this thread, I feel pretty strongly the Yankees will be out given the insane CBT hit they’ll have to take.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Nov 14, 2024 12:41:33 GMT -5
This is not a convince Soto, then convince ownership to write the check situation. Ownership is a driving force here. I wouldn't bet that they are favorites, Cohen could just say 900M for all anyone knows, but I believe they think they can make the money work to the point where is comes down to Soto picking where he wants to be.
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Post by awalkinthepark on Nov 14, 2024 12:53:19 GMT -5
Dan Szymborksi just said in his chat that ZiPS would offer 13/$620 to Soto.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Nov 14, 2024 13:05:47 GMT -5
This is exciting, but baseball sure has a way of sucking out all the fun for when he eventually signs in February. I wish there was a way to get owners and players to speed up the process.
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