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Post by texs31 on Apr 8, 2022 8:08:35 GMT -5
FWIW - I think we can/should feel comfortable that the Pats current Cap Space is at 999,180. Miguel just reported that the NFLPA website has seemingly processed the Wise restructure and his number and that website's number are now in agreement.
Hopefully, Spot Trac and OTC correct bc they show the detail that neither NFLPA or Miguel make available (I mean, Miguel does when something happens just not his entire worksheet).
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Post by texs31 on Apr 7, 2022 22:20:06 GMT -5
Is that true? If Mil loses 1 of next 2 and Boston beats Memphis, I think the will be #2.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 7, 2022 11:17:25 GMT -5
Sure but we all know they are going to take Daxton Hill, right?
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Post by texs31 on Apr 7, 2022 7:06:24 GMT -5
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Post by texs31 on Apr 6, 2022 13:50:44 GMT -5
Since UMass has done a lot on WR draftees, thought I'd post a link to BSJ's WR Preview for those with subs: www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2022/04/06/2022-nfl-draft-preview-receiver-which-targets-will-appeal-to-patriots-mac-jonesHis fits by round: 1. Garrett Wilson - Won't fall but only WR he thinks Pats would take at 21 (value to great) 2. John Metchie II or Skyy Moore 3. Wan'dale Robinson - thinks Pickens here, if he drops, might be worth the risk. 4. Khalil Shakir - Danny Gray if they do a deep option 5. Kyle Phillips - Bo Melton as an outside option 6. Dontario Drummond - writes him up like Cordarrelle or, gasp, Deebo 7. Kevin Austin Jr My interpretation of the writeups is that he like Metchie (realized he could drop to rd 3 but thinks Pats will value him more than others) and Shakir best for Pats. Based on what I've read, feels like they might have to pop Shakir in Rd 3 if they want him.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 6, 2022 8:43:24 GMT -5
2.8M of Wise' salary converted to a bonus.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 5, 2022 15:42:24 GMT -5
Peppers was made official yesterday and the Parker trade was just made official. So, with no other transaction (released/traded player), one would have to assume a current player's deal was redone.
EDIT - removed previous as it was NOT correct at all.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 5, 2022 15:38:13 GMT -5
I've been under the perception he used that one too but haven't been able to find anything that confirms that. I'm also unable to find the portion of the chart that says a pick next year is worth 2 next year. Everything I had read is that you just move a rd back (though, admittedly, so much is people's interpretation of what is being used not an actual account so I take that with a grain of salt).
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Post by texs31 on Apr 5, 2022 13:32:54 GMT -5
Depending on the chart, it's more like a 5th not a 6th (or a 4th).
Looking at Rich Hill's, for example, that 3rd next year would be about 22pts (given the idea that you move back a round for a pick in the next year). The 5th they got back from Miami is worth 11. So the net is 11 which, obviously, is about a 5th rd pick.
EDIT - Using the older point system but similar calculation method, it would be 45 (our 3rd next year = our 4th this) minus the 27.8 (value of pick 158) which would be 17.2 pts which WOULD be about a 6th (but I thought I'd read that those points are a little outdated)
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Post by texs31 on Apr 3, 2022 10:01:34 GMT -5
Traded or Cut/Claimed result in the same savings.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 3, 2022 9:59:10 GMT -5
Only if he's claimed. Unclaimed, they save about 370k
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Post by texs31 on Apr 2, 2022 13:29:33 GMT -5
Now we really don't NEEED anything heading into the draft. Like the move, still want Olave or Williams at 21 if they are there, though CB is probably a smidge higher on the need chart now. I think they can now take advantage of the depth of the draft instead of obsessing at the top.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 2, 2022 13:22:15 GMT -5
Spot Trac already has him on the Pats page as a 6.044 Cap Hit. OTC still has him on MIami with 8.744 which makes sense. It's his prorated signing bonus that stays with Miami. So his hit for this year breaks down as
Base = 5,650,000 Roster bonus = 294,118 (500K total but, with only 10 GP last year, that's the LTBE piece - 500K/17*10) Workout bonus = 100,000
Hit = 6,044,118
EDIT - Of course it's also possible they reworked the deal as part of the trade.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 2, 2022 12:13:32 GMT -5
Just read his cap hit is over 8 so something has to happen in addition to this.
EDIT - not sure of the exact rules bit not all of that 8.7 is on the Pats. Some will be dead money on Miami books.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 2, 2022 12:06:25 GMT -5
Pats getting Davante Parker for a late rd pick.
Scratch that 23 3rd rd. Pats also getting a 5th back from Miami in 22
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Post by texs31 on Apr 1, 2022 10:24:15 GMT -5
We're not making past Toronto without Brown, would suck if it came to that. Well it wouldn't be the whole series though, right? Just games in Canada.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 1, 2022 9:31:51 GMT -5
Of the top 4 EC teams, Philly and Boston refused to say if they were vaxxed or not (Mia and Mil said they are fully vaxxed).
The only players we know are vaxxed on Boston (based on the fact that they played in Toronto the other night) are:
GWilliams,Nesmith,Smart,Theis,White,Hauser,Kornet,Pritchard
According to ESPN, RWill is vaccinated (but that's probably irrelevant unless he makes a quicker than expected recovery). Tatum has also said he's vaccinated (C's media day, I think is what was reported).
That leaves the other 2 as unknowns. I guess Al was asked about it the other day and he said he'd be ready to player wherever. Some are taking that to mean he will be getting vaccinated if not already.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 1, 2022 8:02:13 GMT -5
Horford and Brown are 2 names that I've read.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 1, 2022 7:51:26 GMT -5
Toronto is not ideal given the speculated vax staus of some key members of the team.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 31, 2022 20:12:15 GMT -5
These guys have been mentioned by folks on here before but a nice summary of 3 potential additions in the next phase of FA. www.patspulpit.com/2022/3/31/23004477/2022-nfl-free-agency-3-players-would-still-make-sense-patriotsIn an ideal world, I wouldn't mind adding a younger player at NT in the draft but, given other needs, it might make sense to add a FA instead. I'd also think the ideal add on the OL would be a guy who can play G and C (hence the initial attempt to bring back Karras and the pursuit of Bates) but Williams would still be an upgrade.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 31, 2022 19:31:11 GMT -5
Peppers Cap# coming in at 1.725M. Pretty good for a player with his upside. Current Cap space at around 4.2.
Took a quick peek at the OTC and SpotTrac who have the Pats at 5.05M and 4.7M, respectively. Both seem to be using a different number than what was reported for Malcolm Butler. The reported hit on him was 2.25 for 2022 but those sites both have him at 1.74M. The discrepancy explanation certainly appears to be his roster bonus. If the reports are correct, then the Roster Bonus is LTBE (and they are basing this on his last "unretired" year). However, if you're supposed to count last year, than all of his Roster Bonus would be NLTBE since he played 0 games. Not sure if Miguel knows or was defaulting to the reported hit.
Another discrepancy is regarding the bonuses on players 52 and beyond. Both Miguel and SpotTrac include the bonuses for those players in the Cap Calculation and I believe that is true (only Salary for those players is excluded). OTC does not include that.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 31, 2022 14:58:46 GMT -5
FWIW I just asked Miguel on Twitter and he confirmed that NLTBE ROSTER bonuses hit this year's cap whereas other NLTBE earned bonuses adjust next.
Also, that link you provided says:
"From a cap standpoint there is also a benefit to the in-season roster bonus. In the NFL these are considered incentive based payments. What that means is that when the league year begins what counts towards the salary cap depends on what you did the year before. So if you are set to earn $31,250 for every game on the active 46 but only made the active 46 the prior year for 5 games your cap charge in March will only be $156,250 rather than $500,000. Now if the player ends up playing 16 games they will adjust your cap number accordingly, but that comes at seasons end not during free agency when teams need the cap room. "
Admittedly, it would be clearer if it said this year's cap instead of "season's end" but the reference to "during free agency" (the start of free agency kicks off the next league year) coupled with Miguel's confirmation makes me feel comfortable in using his estimation.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 31, 2022 14:31:38 GMT -5
As I mentioned, he's also used that in a similar post that talks about cap room that will be needed throughout the year.
That's why he says his current number doesn't account for it. Why would he say that if it's not supposed to.
Anyway, if you don't like the estimate, don't use it. Pretty simple.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 31, 2022 11:58:43 GMT -5
In part 2/3 of 3 he lists NLTBE Active Roster bonuses as "operating expenses" that are not accounted for in the current cap # (he's also used "cap space needed to navigate the rest of the season" to show the same information).
Meanwhile, both the Ravens Cap Guy and an excerpt from NFL.com say Roster bonuses hit the cap in the year they are triggered.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 31, 2022 6:22:11 GMT -5
I believe he's saying Peppers saves us money against the cap but you have to pay that one during the year. Everything I'm reading suggests roster bonuses ALWAYS hit during the year. It's other incentives whose NTLBE/LTBE status adjusts next year's cap.
Still looking for more evidence.
Is it your thinking then that Miguel is wrong when he is adding that estimate for NLTBE roster bonuses? That's fine if you do. In my experience with Miguel, while he does make mistakes, I can't think of 1 time where it was related to the rules
I'd also add that, although the NFLPA Cap page takes some time to catch up, he usually lines up with them pretty well (once it's about actual numbers and not projections).
But, if you don't want to use that estimation, I can't force you.
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