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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 22, 2024 22:47:37 GMT -5
Only Rafaela saved Weissert from losing the game. Sox better have a huge offensive explosion. Weissert us not giving them another scoreless inning.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 22, 2024 22:40:06 GMT -5
Gee what could go wrong with Weissert on the mound?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 22, 2024 22:37:26 GMT -5
This is going to be a shitty loss
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 22, 2024 22:35:53 GMT -5
That'll lowe them the game
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 22, 2024 22:32:46 GMT -5
They need to score 5 runs or more. Make it something the bullpen can't even f up.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 22, 2024 22:29:30 GMT -5
They're not winning this game. Sucks when the bullpen fails again and again and again.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 22, 2024 20:37:19 GMT -5
So when does the Red Sox all-star break end? All the other teams are playing - and winning. Sheesh.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 22, 2024 19:38:20 GMT -5
I dont agree with the World Series or bust mentality. Unless they lose just about every freaking game between now and the deadline and fall more than a few games out I dont see what good it does then to punt. At some point they need to go for it, but that means different things. Given where they are organizationally it makes no sense to part with top prospects. All they need to do is beat out some middling teams that aren't much better than them, if they are at all. This, they can't be better than Minnesota or Kansas City or Seattle stuff is about as silly as expecting them to overtake NY and Baltimore. They dont have to overtake them to have a successful season. They just need to make the damn playoffs. You cant expect a relatively young team to just win everything. There are usually steps along the way. If you watched the Celtics this year it was quite evident a maturation experience took place and the previous growing pains in the post season finally yielded dividends. It would be good for guys like Duran and Rafaela and others to experience the post season, even if it's a quick two and out (just dont do that against the Yankees, lol). Hell, it's not even a guarantee that they dont make noise if they get in. Expecting them to win the Series is a bit much, but they're at the point they have to start making the playoffs. Enough of this punt every July crap. When it's obvious they aren't going to be good enough to make the post season that's one thing, but this team is capable of being WC2 or WC3. Might as well do it and actually make the season interesting rather than trying for a fifth season in 6 where they cant even make the damn expanded playoffs Like others said, not much of an attraction for other free agents to come to a team that cant even be the top 40% of their league. I agree with just about everything here, except for the part about it being silly to expect them to overtake MFY or BAL. That’s exactly what I’m aiming for. There are 2.5 months to go and they’re only 6.5 GB. MFY are deeply flawed and haven’t won a series in over a month. Obviously BAL are good but there’s nothing wrong with being a nobody-believes-in-us underdog. LFG!! To get a team that's as good or better than Baltimore the Sox would have to trade a lot of their good minor league talent to make themselves that much better and truly plug all the holes and turn them into the strengths needed to surpass Baltimore. Honestly, while I know that the AL East champ will get a first round bye, I don't think going to that extreme to pass the Orioles or even the Yankees is really that necessary. Just make the damn playoffs. Hell, they might be better off as the 3rd wild card playing the weakest division winner which probably will be Houston. I just don't see it being worth in trade costs trying to erase a 5 game deficit or whatever it would take. For example, I would not trade the prospect capital needed to acquire Crochet (especially to be a bullpen guy) or Mason Miller. I'd make incremental trades, the kind made to bring an area of weakness to average and would trade from their lesser prospects (in other words hands off the top 4, Montgomery and Arias) There will be other seasons ahead where they might have to make "bigger" moves and where they're right there at the top of the division with Baltimore but they're not there yet. I think this team as it stands is an 85 - 88 win team. They just need enough of a push to be better than KC and Seattle or even Minnesota.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 22, 2024 11:34:32 GMT -5
Literally last season a team with a negative run differential made it to the World Series. It's so obvious that absolutely nothing will shake people out of this belief that there is such a thing as a team that is good enough to make the playoffs but has no shot at a World Series. And what would a team "favored" to win a championship look like? The top three teams by fangraphs' championship odds (Phillies, Dodgers, Yankees) have a *combined* 44% chance of winning the World Series. In other words, it will probably be won by a team that currently has only a 6.5% chance or less. I agree in totality with what you're saying as it makes sense, and I'm definitely on the go for it side barring a total collapse. That said, I can see why a Red Sox fan has an image of what a Red Sox world championship team looks like. Look at all four 21st century Sox champions. None of them won less than 96 games. All of them played near or better than .600 ball and the last Sox champion was a juggernaut that won 108. The Sox look like a team that could reach the high 80s in wins. The last two Sox teams that made the postseason doing that got their butts kicked by the A's both times who were far superior to them, back in 1988 and 1990. Red Sox fans arent accustomed to seeing struggling Red Sox teams that are decent or good but not particularly great all of the sudden become World Series champs or participants. The last time this happened was way back in 1967 when they won 92. So I do understand why there would be an image of what a Red Sox championship team looks like or wouldnt look like. I think this year its kind of besides the point, which I think right now is to just make the damn playoffs and give themselves that small chance.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 22, 2024 11:23:09 GMT -5
I dont agree with the World Series or bust mentality.
Unless they lose just about every freaking game between now and the deadline and fall more than a few games out I dont see what good it does then to punt.
At some point they need to go for it, but that means different things.
Given where they are organizationally it makes no sense to part with top prospects.
All they need to do is beat out some middling teams that aren't much better than them, if they are at all.
This, they can't be better than Minnesota or Kansas City or Seattle stuff is about as silly as expecting them to overtake NY and Baltimore. They dont have to overtake them to have a successful season.
They just need to make the damn playoffs. You cant expect a relatively young team to just win everything. There are usually steps along the way. If you watched the Celtics this year it was quite evident a maturation experience took place and the previous growing pains in the post season finally yielded dividends.
It would be good for guys like Duran and Rafaela and others to experience the post season, even if it's a quick two and out (just dont do that against the Yankees, lol). Hell, it's not even a guarantee that they dont make noise if they get in. Expecting them to win the Series is a bit much, but they're at the point they have to start making the playoffs.
Enough of this punt every July crap. When it's obvious they aren't going to be good enough to make the post season that's one thing, but this team is capable of being WC2 or WC3. Might as well do it and actually make the season interesting rather than trying for a fifth season in 6 where they cant even make the damn expanded playoffs
Like others said, not much of an attraction for other free agents to come to a team that cant even be the top 40% of their league.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 21, 2024 19:35:06 GMT -5
Time to tune out the inevitable.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 21, 2024 19:34:43 GMT -5
Today was predictable. I had a bad feeling when they blew Fridays game. After that deflating loss yesterday I figured theyd get beat up today.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 21, 2024 13:32:35 GMT -5
Interesting Portland lineup with Campbell in center and Anthony in left. Anthony was in left yesterday too (Sikes in CF) as well as the game before they left for Texas (Campbell in that one), so it seems they are getting him used to other angles in the outfield. I guess having him learn on the Maine Monster before going up to the more conventional Polar Park OF makes sense? If the eventual plan winds up being Anthony in LF, Rafaela in CF, and Montgomery in RF, it makes a ton of sense.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 21, 2024 11:57:07 GMT -5
Man people are fickle. Red Sox lose a couple games, which they were winning in the 8th inning or later, to one of the best teams in the league and that’s it, season is unfixable. Two of their best relievers are on IL set to return, they have Martin and Slaten they probably win both games, but even if that weren’t true relief pitching is the easiest thing to add at the deadline, and even if that weren’t true these were incredibly close games and baseball has a high degree of randomness. I'm worried that Martin and Casas arent coming back this year, but barring a 10 game losing streak, I dont see any reason to sell. They don't have to trade away the system to improve, even if its incrementally. I think they're capable of finishing ahead of the Mariners, Royals, and Rangers, and possibly even the Twins. They only have to finish in the 3rd wild card to make the playoffs. It might even be advantageous to finish as the 3rd wild card. I know Houston is playing well, but I still don't think they are what they have been. They're good, not great. The point is they dont have to trade away their crown jewels to improve their team incrementally enough to make the playoffs. There's no real reason why the Sox cant make the playoffs with a tweak here or there. They're not trying to fend off the 1998 Yankees for a playoff spot. Even if it's two and out for the Sox in the playoffs, the younger players gain valuable playoff experience which will help them the next time around.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 20, 2024 21:59:43 GMT -5
Only Booser pitched well. The rest of the pen sucked. Winckowski was bad but escaped.
Kenley will have better nights.
I have to admit. I was wondering why Refsnyser didnt bunt Rafaela over to 2b. An insurance run would have been helpful.
I know Crawford has been great lately but I think they're getting swept this weekend. Things dont feel right. Its like the all star break f'd up their momentum. Hope they dont tank going into the deadline.
Its obvious the pen is an issue, particularly if Martin isnt coming back.
They need a starter, a RH hitting 1b, a RH setup man, and maybe some middle infield defensive help but that's a distant 4th at this time.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 20, 2024 21:38:50 GMT -5
And that's the ballgame. Shitty loss.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 20, 2024 21:38:15 GMT -5
Not their night, or weekend so far. Damn
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 20, 2024 21:34:13 GMT -5
Worried they're not gonna score
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 20, 2024 21:31:33 GMT -5
The Sox need to score 5 runs this inning.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 20, 2024 21:30:20 GMT -5
I thought Diaz was going to ring him up.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 20, 2024 21:29:02 GMT -5
I'm not watching the bottom of the 11th
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 20, 2024 21:27:07 GMT -5
You can’t tell me there isn’t a single righty in this organization better than Weissert that’s not on the MLB team. Even trade. Verdugo is sabotaging the Yankees and Weissert is sabotaging the Red Sox.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 20, 2024 21:24:00 GMT -5
I'm done with this shit today. Let freaking Kiké beat them twice
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 20, 2024 21:14:41 GMT -5
I’d have pinch hit Masa for TON there. At least I’m honest. Nah, Popeye ate his spinach today, lol
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 20, 2024 21:13:11 GMT -5
Weisser warming up. Be still my heart
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