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Trade Jon Lester?
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jul 26, 2014 15:10:42 GMT -5
Gordon Edes reports the the Dodgers and Red Sox have talked about Lester. The talks haven't reached far yet but we have time.
I take Peterson and Seager.
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Post by juniorp90 on Jul 26, 2014 15:26:11 GMT -5
We must stop filling our eyes for some super prospects from other teams, I place Lester in the same place as Pedroia, Big Papi .. Boston is the place to be and Lester himself has mentioned, I like GM would prepare me for next season, but in the offseason, the team built a 100M contract for 5 years you would offer to Lester. Super prospects? We have to Swihart, Betts, Owens, Johnson, Ranaudo ... that we get to Stanton or Tulowitzki, go with everything for the two of them and go with another smaller caliber pitcher like Kennedy or Cahsner ... Again. We get it .. with that. Lester is a proven pitcher, prospects are prospects that we do not know if they were to be expected. As some have said, the best case would be to transfer Lackey or Doubront, Breslow, Miller... Sorry for my English, I'm Dominican
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jul 26, 2014 15:49:20 GMT -5
I'm Dominican too lol As for Lester I think it's clear they won't come to an agreement. The best next option is to trade him instead of losing him for just a draft pick. They can then use those prospects for trades or keeping them but it gives them more options.
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Post by ianrs on Jul 26, 2014 15:54:27 GMT -5
I don't think we will be able to get both Seager and Pederson, but I try (maybe adding in a BP arm). At the least I want one of them in this market.
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 26, 2014 16:36:59 GMT -5
If LAD is giving up Seager AND Peterson it's for Price, not Lester. I think it's possible we can get one of the two, which would be an excellent result IMO.
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Post by xanderbogaerts2 on Jul 26, 2014 16:55:46 GMT -5
But with dealing Peavy to San Francisco it also helps the Sox because SFG are ahead of the Dodgers and Dodgers need another starter. Haren has been Peavy but in the NL West and Beckett's hurt. Price might be coming off the block because of how good the Rays have been playing lately. Which means, if on the trading block, Lester is number one and with what Peavy brought we could use it as leverage and with a bullpen arm that they also are looking for, (Miller) and possibly pry both Seager and Peterson with another guy. There is also a big reporter that I forget the name of that feels the same way without even adding a BP arm such as Miller. Urias is off the table I would have to presume for anyone.
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Post by juniorp90 on Jul 26, 2014 18:06:12 GMT -5
If LAD is giving up Seager AND Peterson it's for Price, not Lester. I think it's possible we can get one of the two, which would be an excellent result IMO. Just so you make no mistake, is PEDERSON, not PETERSON. Like most trade DJ PETERSON, Austin Wilson and Paxton by Lester. Boston does not need SS (Seager is), PETERSON can play first base and in the outfield Wilson.
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Post by xanderbogaerts2 on Jul 26, 2014 18:36:37 GMT -5
But they can use Seager and/or Pederson as trade pieces for a big name in the offseason
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Post by juniorp90 on Jul 26, 2014 19:01:05 GMT -5
But they can use Seager and/or Pederson as trade pieces for a big name in the offseason Yes, you can also use Peterson and/or Austin Wilson in that case
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Post by juanfatj on Jul 26, 2014 19:33:09 GMT -5
Really hoping we pry Seager from LAD. That is exactly what we need. Seager is the payer I would like to see if Lester goes. Not sure if he got hurt tonight but he was lifted for a pinch runner. Strange thing was he wasn't removed until after the next hitter K'd.
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Post by redsox4242 on Jul 26, 2014 20:02:35 GMT -5
Really hoping we pry Seager from LAD. That is exactly what we need. Seager is the payer I would like to see if Lester goes. Not sure if he got hurt tonight but he was lifted for a pinch runner. Strange thing was he wasn't removed until after the next hitter K'd. Lester and Miller for Seager and Pederson. Thats a great trade for both clubs.
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Post by oleary25 on Jul 26, 2014 20:27:33 GMT -5
I have a feeling if we trade Lester to the dodgers we're taking Matt Kemp back in the deal. I would assume a deal between the teams would look something like Lester, Rp ( Miller or Breslow) for Matt Kemp, (Zach Lee or Chris Reed) plus a low level A ball prospect plus cash for Kemp.
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Post by redsox4242 on Jul 26, 2014 20:33:22 GMT -5
^hope your wrong, I don't want Kemp. Injury prone. i want young exciting players. do what you have to do, we have a lot of pitchers
BOSTON trades: Lester, Miller, Ranaudo, Badenhop, Marrero
Dodgers trade: Seager and Pederson
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Post by xanderbogaerts2 on Jul 26, 2014 20:37:16 GMT -5
I hear Corey Seager was just pulled
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Post by oleary25 on Jul 26, 2014 20:43:50 GMT -5
I just read Corey Seager was pulled from a game as was Jonathan Herrea.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 26, 2014 20:52:54 GMT -5
dang i think Pederson could have been a false rumor we shall see It was DJ Peterson (SEA prospect), not Joc Pederson (LAD prospect), who was pulled, and Peterson (not Pederson) was reportedly pulled with an injury.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 26, 2014 21:00:02 GMT -5
someone is reporting it's Seager for Lester, Nava, Herrera so far. Nava doesn't make sense unless we get Pederson or Kemp. I would also expect more with Nava in the deal if he's right. No credible source is reporting this.
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Post by xanderbogaerts2 on Jul 26, 2014 21:02:44 GMT -5
Seager came out because he has the stomach flu and herrera because of an injury i am reading
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Post by ctfisher on Jul 28, 2014 14:21:52 GMT -5
If LAD is giving up Seager AND Peterson it's for Price, not Lester. I think it's possible we can get one of the two, which would be an excellent result IMO. Just so you make no mistake, is PEDERSON, not PETERSON. Like most trade DJ PETERSON, Austin Wilson and Paxton by Lester. Boston does not need SS (Seager is), PETERSON can play first base and in the outfield Wilson. From everything I've heard, Seager is moving off shortstop by the time he reaches the majors, he's a big dude. If Kemp is anything more than a throw in a Lester deal, I'm not sure what I'd do, but it would be dramatic. That's a horrible deal for us unless LA throws like $150m in so we can use a bunch of their cash to re-sign Lester in the offseason. Kemp probably isn't done as a useful major league player, but Lester's pitching like a true ace right now, and probably makes the dodgers series favorites by a solid margin. we better be getting something significantly more valuable than broken down Matt kemp for that
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 29, 2014 7:40:45 GMT -5
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 29, 2014 7:51:49 GMT -5
Review of top MIL prospects:
Nelson (#1, #53 MLB, #38 BA, #36 Sickels) - 25YO in majors, groundball pitcher with FB/slider combo, profiles at mid-rotation starter, not sure that MIL will trade him but they don't have a lot of highly ranked prospects to trade
Taylor (#2) - 20YO in high-A, two-sport athlete, above-average speed and good hit tool, should stay in CF
Arcia (#3) - 20YO in high-A, should stay at SS, contact hitter, profiles as glove-first SS or utility player
Williams (#7) - 19YO in rookie ball, high-ceiling/high risk arm
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 29, 2014 7:58:26 GMT -5
Was just going to post that. Nelson would be an unexpected return at this point for me.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 29, 2014 8:40:50 GMT -5
Review of top SEA prospects:
Walker (#1, #8 MLB, #8 Sickels) - turning 22YO in majors, four pitches, control still an issue but profiles as a frontline starter, doubt that SEA will trade him for Lester (was in the discussions for Price)
Peterson (#3, #55 MLB, #46 BA, #40 Sickels) - 22YO in AA, premium bat, position still an issue (may end up as 1B, currently at 3B) but bat will play anywhere
Paxton (#4, #30 Sickels) - 25YO rehabbing from a lat strain, lefty with electric stuff, question will be whether he can harness control, if so, he's a mid-rotation (2-3) starter or a closer candidate
Taylor (#5) - soon-to-be 24YO SS in AAA, high-floor/low ceiling, good instincts, profiles as a major league utility guy
Guerrero (#6) - 20YO in high-A, swings like his uncle Vlad, toolsy but needs refinement, if it comes together he'll profile in RF; if not, he'll burn out in AAA
Wilson (#7) - 22YO in low-A, otherwise similar to Guerrero, currently on DL
Diaz (#8) - 20YO in low-A, good command, two average-to-plus pitches, working on a third pitch, profiles as a mid-rotation starter
Peterson would be the guy I'd be looking for in any deal with SEA.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 29, 2014 9:24:52 GMT -5
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 29, 2014 9:46:46 GMT -5
Review of top TOR prospects:
Norris (#1, #29 MLB, #25 BA, #35 Sickels) - 21YO in AA, four pitches, control has improved, profiles as a frontline starter
Sanchez (#2, #40 MLB, #22 Sickels) - 22YO in majors as a reliever, great fastball/curveball combo, hasn't developed a solid third pitch yet, command still an issue, profiles as a frontline (2-3) starter or a backend reliever
Pompey (#3, #95 MLB, #47 BA, #63 Sickels) - 21YO in AA, breakout star this year, advanced approach, plus speed, should stay in CF, switch-hitter, would be surprised if he were traded, as TOR is weak in position players
Osuna (#5) - 19YO in a rehab assignment, coming off of TJ, plus fastball/slider, good command, high-ceiling/high-risk arm
Barreto (#8) - 18YO in short season-A, athletic with above-average speed, compact swing, free swinger, profiles at 2B/CF (playing SS now), Venezuelan bonus baby
TOR would have to pay up for Lester. Norris/Sanchez and Barreto would be the guys I'd be looking for in any deal with TOR. I'd love me some Stroman, but I assume he's untouchable.
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