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Peavy to be traded?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 9, 2014 13:20:38 GMT -5
Is it time for a general trade deadline thread? It's getting confusing.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jul 9, 2014 13:27:57 GMT -5
Jen Royle ?@jen_Royle Source: Another potential suitor for Jake Peavy is the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. With Weaver's health issue, could use another starter
David O'Brien ?@ajcbraves From what I'm told, they don't. RT @jase1129: @ajcbraves Why on Earth do the Braves want Peavy? Has Wren completely lost his mind?
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Post by ctfisher on Jul 9, 2014 13:44:41 GMT -5
Top-tier lefty starter? When did I mention trading Lester? I'm in the resign camp. But I'd like to know how a year of Lackey, 2 months of Koji/Peavy and an additional prospect is too much to give up for a cost-controlled 29 year old with a career 125 OPS+ AND a 23 year old pitcher who besides this year has an excellent track record and top of the rotation potential? That cost controlled 29 year old hasn't hit in year and Miller is nice and all, but doesn't miss bats anymore and is walking guys. That is troublesome, way too troublesome to trade a guy who is going to be at the front of a rotation on minimum salary next year(Lackey), the best closer in baseball, and a good prospect in Marrero for. Doesn't miss bats anymore? We're talking about a half season here- that's pretty premature. I also don't know that Koji is the best closer in baseball, but even if he is, he's 40, so there's that. I don't know that I'd want craig for Lackey though, or that Miller would be the guy I go after. I'd rather add to one of our weak positions, namely the outfield. I'd be fine with something close to Peavy for Craig straight up, if it were doable
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Post by nomar on Jul 9, 2014 16:39:41 GMT -5
Everyone is acting like the OF is our biggest need, when in reality it's upside pitching.
Mookie and JBJ need time to adjust, but should be full time starters. That leaves one open OF spot. Nava is back to being a good OBP source and a guy like Brentz or any LHP masher could fill the last OF spot.
Once the young guys adjust, we will have a very solid offense. Some things take time. But once they do adjust, and one or both of Lester/Lackey are gone, what this team will need is top of the rotation pitching.
Obviously if some great bat like Taveras was available, you go for it, but he's not. Instead, guys like Martinez and Shelby Miller are the type of pitchers we should pursue. RDLR and Owens look like they can bee good mid rotation guys, but we lack high ceiling pitching.
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Post by kman22 on Jul 9, 2014 17:41:08 GMT -5
Everyone is acting like the OF is our biggest need, when in reality it's upside pitching. Mookie and JBJ need time to adjust, but should be full time starters. That leaves one open OF spot. Nava is back to being a good OBP source and a guy like Brentz or any LHP masher could fill the last OF spot. Once the young guys adjust, we will have a very solid offense. Some things take time. But once they do adjust, and one or both of Lester/Lackey are gone, what this team will need is top of the rotation pitching. Obviously if some great bat like Taveras was available, you go for it, but he's not. Instead, guys like Martinez and Shelby Miller are the type of pitchers we should pursue. RDLR and Owens look like they can bee good mid rotation guys, but we lack high ceiling pitching. I think when people say OF is a major need for the Sox, they specifically mean a power hitting OF. Power in general is a weakness in the system, while OF offers the team the fewest top prospects at the moment. Not going out on much of a limb here, but in addition to Peavy, I'd trade Drew, Gomes, Lackey, Doubront, Uehara, Miller, Mujica, Badenhop, and Carp if I could find takers. Lester too if I could find value better than the 1st round pick we'd get in the winter.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 9, 2014 21:25:48 GMT -5
Let's keep this thread to Peavy.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 9, 2014 21:54:47 GMT -5
It's too quiet on this peavy trade. Hmmmmm
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Post by jmei on Jul 9, 2014 21:58:28 GMT -5
They have another three weeks to finalize something. No rush.
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Post by kman22 on Jul 9, 2014 23:38:52 GMT -5
So many people in the know we're convinced that Peavy was gone by first pitch tonight. I wonder what happened.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jul 10, 2014 8:49:57 GMT -5
Bob Nightengale ?@bnightengale 7 min. The #STLCards,at least for now,are showing no interest in #RedSox starter Jake Peavy, and may have urgent need for offense if Molina is out.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 10, 2014 8:58:37 GMT -5
Here's my crazy idea: Peavy and Miller to LAD for Kemp, $50M, and a prospect (like a young 1b with power) . Kemp thus becomes after this year a 5yr x $10M contract. Put him in LF next year and hope he becomes your power source. It's like a Jose-Abreu-sized gamble. This year he's .271 .330 .437 .768 in a slight pitcher's park. (I have no idea how he's feeling or looking) (Admittedly, his reverse splits would not make for a good platoon with Nava. Maybe I'm trading Nava this month too)
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 10, 2014 9:09:29 GMT -5
Here's my crazy idea: Peavy and Miller to LAD for Kemp, $50M, and a prospect (like a young 1b with power) . Kemp thus becomes after this year a 5yr x $10M contract. Put him in LF next year and hope he becomes your power source. It's like a Jose-Abreu-sized gamble. This year he's .271 .330 .437 .768 in a slight pitcher's park. (I have no idea how he's feeling or looking) (Admittedly, his reverse splits would not make for a good platoon with Nava. Maybe I'm trading Nava this month too) Kemp's reverse splits are only this year so probably not for real. The problem with him is that he's reportedly very bad in the field right now and should be a DH. Not sure if that improves. But I don't think LA makes that deal without a prospect from us and no prospect from them, not with that amount of money thrown in.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 10, 2014 10:25:05 GMT -5
Here's my crazy idea: Peavy and Miller to LAD for Kemp, $50M, and a prospect (like a young 1b with power) . Kemp thus becomes after this year a 5yr x $10M contract. Put him in LF next year and hope he becomes your power source. It's like a Jose-Abreu-sized gamble. This year he's .271 .330 .437 .768 in a slight pitcher's park. (I have no idea how he's feeling or looking) (Admittedly, his reverse splits would not make for a good platoon with Nava. Maybe I'm trading Nava this month too) Kemp's reverse splits are only this year so probably not for real. The problem with him is that he's reportedly very bad in the field right now and should be a DH. Not sure if that improves. But I don't think LA makes that deal without a prospect from us and no prospect from them, not with that amount of money thrown in. They'd have to pay $50M, but otherwise they have to pay $100M over the next five years for a player they do not need at all, and can never DH for them, and is one of two overpaid LFers. But I did introduce it as "crazy"
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 10, 2014 10:46:31 GMT -5
Not saying I endorse a Kemp trade, but if LAD can play him in CF, we sure as hell could leave him in LF at Fenway.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jul 10, 2014 10:53:45 GMT -5
Not saying I endorse a Kemp trade, but if LAD can play him in CF, we sure as hell could leave him in LF at Fenway. Kemp has actually been playing LF full time for most of the season. And to be honest, after watching him at Coors Field each game this past weekend, he really doesn't get to all the balls he should. Tho to be fair, the OF is huge at Coors, and Ethier is attempting to play center.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 10, 2014 10:53:50 GMT -5
Not saying I endorse a Kemp trade, but if LAD can play him in CF, we sure as hell could leave him in LF at Fenway. They're not too bright to do it, given the -35 UZR/150 over 2013-14. And this year he's at a -39/150 in LF. It's pretty pretty bad.
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Post by jmei on Jul 10, 2014 10:57:30 GMT -5
Not saying I endorse a Kemp trade, but if LAD can play him in CF, we sure as hell could leave him in LF at Fenway. He's been a below-replacement-level player this year, though (-1.1 bWAR, -0.3 fWAR). His bat looks more above-average than elite, while his defense is in the discussion for worst in the league (small sample, but (all stats per 150 gms/1200 innings) -35.3 UZR/-27 TZ/-45 DRS in CF, -39.1/-8 TZ/-29 DRS in LF; scouting reports haven't been much kinder). If that's the kind of player he really is, even if you assume his true-talent defense is a little better than his stats have shown this year, he's not worth 5/$50m.
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Post by ctfisher on Jul 10, 2014 11:18:31 GMT -5
Not saying I endorse a Kemp trade, but if LAD can play him in CF, we sure as hell could leave him in LF at Fenway. They're not too bright to do it, given the -35 UZR/150 over 2013-14. And this year he's at a -39/150 in LF. It's pretty pretty bad. God that's depressing for a guy who was a 30/30 guy a couple years ago
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 10, 2014 11:43:32 GMT -5
They're not too bright to do it, given the -35 UZR/150 over 2013-14. And this year he's at a -39/150 in LF. It's pretty pretty bad. God that's depressing for a guy who was a 30/30 guy a couple years ago Yeah. And I think Ben may have learned something from Sizemore so I really see zero chance of this happening.
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Post by jmei on Jul 10, 2014 12:18:54 GMT -5
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 11, 2014 0:04:29 GMT -5
Not saying I endorse a Kemp trade, but if LAD can play him in CF, we sure as hell could leave him in LF at Fenway. That's like saying "If my buddy can have unprotected sex with a hooker, I sure as hell can have it with this girl I picked up in a bar. At least, I think she's a girl."
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 11, 2014 17:23:59 GMT -5
Scott Lauber ?@scottlauber 5m Farrell says he hasn't been told to come up w/contingency in case Peavy is traded before he pitches tomorrow. Sounds like nothing imminent
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 11, 2014 20:31:37 GMT -5
I think it's 50/50 he gets traded.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 13, 2014 11:35:40 GMT -5
Brian MacPherson ?@brianmacp Red Sox rotation out of the All-Star break has Jake Peavy last in line. Easy to assume that gives them more opportunity to trade him.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jul 13, 2014 19:44:39 GMT -5
An observation: Jake Peavy handled his post game interview in a truly professional manner. His team had 13 hits but couldn't produce runs for him to get a much deserved victory.
He was hit with questions about a possible trade and he addressed them head-on and with sincerity. He is a class act.
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