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Post by amfox1 on Jul 14, 2014 0:38:23 GMT -5
Jen Royle ?@jen_Royle Jul 10
Pittsburgh is the 5th team interested in Peavy. With Atlanta and St. Louis reportedly out, Milwaukee, Anaheim and Pitt are remaining three.
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Post by artfuldodger on Jul 17, 2014 5:28:13 GMT -5
While I understand how the Pirates and Brewers match well with the Red Sox, who could the Angels trade?
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 17, 2014 7:29:14 GMT -5
While I understand how the Pirates and Brewers match well with the Red Sox, who could the Angels trade? They can take on more of Peavy's salary and give back a C prospect pretty easily. That's all it will take for Peavy. They cannot make bigger deals with dealing from their major league roster. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 17, 2014 11:29:41 GMT -5
Boston should be paying his salary to get the best package in return.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 17, 2014 11:31:11 GMT -5
Boston should be paying his salary to get the best package in return. Yes, that's the best way to spend money if we can't find other crap to waste it on. |
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Post by artfuldodger on Jul 18, 2014 5:23:59 GMT -5
If the Red Sox can get quality prospects for Peavy, I would understand the sense of trading Peavy. I do not understand the logic of trading Peavy for fringe prospects. He is pitching too well with his last three quality starts. The younger pitchers will still have their opportunities to develop with normal course of injuries.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 18, 2014 6:19:08 GMT -5
If the Red Sox can get quality prospects for Peavy, I would understand the sense of trading Peavy. I do not understand the logic of trading Peavy for fringe prospects. He is pitching too well with his last three quality starts. The younger pitchers will still have their opportunities to develop with normal course of injuries. I disagree. Who cares if he's pitching well? They need to give Workman and Ruby regular turns in the rotation for the rest of the year to have a strong understanding of what to expect next year. Peavy should not be dumped for an organizational player. I'd take 1 or 2 complete wild cards over that. By Wild Card I'm thinking Mercedes or an 18/19 year old do I icon type guy. Low level raw power arm. |
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Post by sibbysisti on Jul 18, 2014 6:39:49 GMT -5
If the Red Sox can get quality prospects for Peavy, I would understand the sense of trading Peavy. I do not understand the logic of trading Peavy for fringe prospects. He is pitching too well with his last three quality starts. The younger pitchers will still have their opportunities to develop with normal course of injuries. His contract is up at the end of the season. Unless you believe the team is going to miraculously recover and contend for a playoff spot, what's the point? |
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Post by mgoetze on Jul 18, 2014 14:51:25 GMT -5
He is pitching too well with his last three quality starts. Oh is that how pitchers ought to be evaluated? Wish I'd known earlier. |
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Post by artfuldodger on Jul 18, 2014 20:18:30 GMT -5
Mgoetze, it is okay to disagree weigh my point of view, but do not distort my words. The quality and professional approach will be valuable for the young pitchers to observe. Those qualities should be properly valued.
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Post by dangermike on Jul 18, 2014 20:37:50 GMT -5
He is pitching too well with his last three quality starts. Oh is that how pitchers ought to be evaluated? Wish I'd known earlier. i hate these kinds of responses- do you want to evaluate him based on his career numbers? ...which are good. or that a large number of sox fans wanted him/were very happy to have landed him last yr- even for the price? he even pitched well for us down the stretch last season. hes been a good #5, trading him for garbage would be stupid. |
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Post by mgoetze on Jul 18, 2014 21:45:55 GMT -5
Oh is that how pitchers ought to be evaluated? Wish I'd known earlier. i hate these kinds of responses- do you want to evaluate him based on his career numbers? ...which are good. Hate these kinds of responses. Do you really not realize that the entire season is a much better sample just the last 3 games, or that the current season is more relevant than his career, or are you just trying to troll me? How do I want to evaluate him? Let's start be looking at his FIP the past couple of years. 2011 3.21 2012 3.73 2013 3.96 2014 4.72 Honestly I can hardly see much of a reason to look at more numbers after this. Peavy sucks this year, he's not getting better (and a FA anyway), and we have a lot of pitchers that need to be evaluated at the MLB level. The sooner we get rid of him, the better. Simple as that. |
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Post by artfuldodger on Jul 19, 2014 7:12:57 GMT -5
If you evaluate Peavy on his 2014 fip, then he has no value to either the Red Sox or acquiring team. If you feel as I do that Peavy has returned to his form from last year then he has value. If the teams seeking him do not meet this value, then I believe you keep Peavy.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 19, 2014 9:08:15 GMT -5
So not only do you think Peavy is good, but you also think he's going to help us make the playoffs? Because that is the only reason he shouldn't be traded.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 21, 2014 13:23:44 GMT -5
Bob Nightengale ?@bnightengale 9s
Now that Matt Cain is going on the DL for the #SFGiants, you wonder if a #Redsox Jake Peavy reunion with Bruce Bochy could be far behind?
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 21, 2014 14:29:20 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 21, 2014 14:33:24 GMT -5
Wait, RBI? Really ESPN?
On-topic, I'd be cool with Roache.
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Post by jmei on Jul 21, 2014 14:43:15 GMT -5
I'll just say this-- there's a reason Jim Bowden is writing articles on ESPN and is no longer a GM.
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Post by nomar on Jul 21, 2014 16:26:09 GMT -5
I'd love Roache. Needs an overhaul in approach and probably swing mechanics but gotta love the upside there if the price is Peavy.
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Post by jdb on Jul 21, 2014 20:16:24 GMT -5
We will find out Wed if the Brewers get a first or second round competitive balance pick. I wouldn't mind that in a Peavy return.
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Post by cdj on Jul 21, 2014 21:15:43 GMT -5
Worked with Roache a few years ago.
Really good dude, big time power potential.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 21, 2014 22:02:29 GMT -5
Nick Cafardo ?@nickcafardo 10m Jake Peavy is still on Cards' back burner according to a major league source. Peavy, who starts Tuesday, has made 3 consecutive good starts. chasesfeed.com ?@chasesfeed 3m Source: Giants interested in Red Sox' Jake Peavy: The San Francisco Giants lost startin... foxs.pt/1wT8YNb bit.ly/13xs1kw |
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Post by saysbill on Jul 21, 2014 22:15:41 GMT -5
Mac Williamson would be on top of my list from the Giants. I wanted the Sox to sign him when they drafted him a few years ago. Would add big-time power potential to the Sox OF.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 22, 2014 6:06:38 GMT -5
Peter Gammons ?@pgammo 1h
Red Sox were in watching State College OF Rowan Wick in case Cards make deadline push for Jake Peavy
Not sure how I feel about Wick. Looks like he has solid stats in the NY-Penn league, but spent two years in rookie ball....have to think he wouldn't be the center of any deal, but who knows.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 22, 2014 8:16:09 GMT -5
Peter Gammons ?@pgammo 1h Red Sox were in watching State College OF Rowan Wick in case Cards make deadline push for Jake Peavy Not sure how I feel about Wick. Looks like he has solid stats in the NY-Penn league, but spent two years in rookie ball....have to think he wouldn't be the center of any deal, but who knows. I know nothing about him but I'd rather the Sox target guys in the low minors with upside. High risk high reward than higher level guys who are more organization filler. Maybe at best an injury depth guy,etc. swing for the fences. |
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