radiohix
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Post by radiohix on Jul 23, 2014 20:44:06 GMT -5
Sell!
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Post by marrcus on Jul 23, 2014 20:47:01 GMT -5
They aren't good enough --yet-- to win a series like this. Walks, errors, no hits after the 5th. They're better than June but I have no illusions. Maybe a split tomorrow but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 23, 2014 21:36:16 GMT -5
Yankees are about to steal one.
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Post by larrycook on Jul 23, 2014 22:10:56 GMT -5
Tonight was uglier than a Steinbrenner family reunion on Halloween!
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Post by redsox4242 on Jul 23, 2014 22:45:21 GMT -5
Farrell better have Miller Ready in the bullpen, Happy? yeah i am, besides Jake Mcgee Andrew has been the most dominant lefty in baseball this season. And it didn't matter because Clay stunk up the joint.
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 23, 2014 23:39:12 GMT -5
This 2nd Wild-Card is a joke. LA will prob win over 95 games. And, have a better record than the East and Central winners. Their reward. A one-game playoff with a team that goes 84-78. Just BS. I did a what-if historical study, and the gap between the first and second wild cards, had they had them back then, in most years would have been very large. So this year is typical. At the very least, they need to give the first WC more of an advantage. I like the idea of playing a potential doubleheader, with the second WC team needing to sweep to advance. IOW, it's a best of three, only the first WC has a game in hand, and the if-necessary game 3 is scheduled for the evening of game 2. OTOH, historically the first WC has had a record comparable to the division champs, so there is no need to handicap them once you're down to four teams.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 23:56:16 GMT -5
The kid will eventually be ok, but he is a kid , something that the Sox should have known. They do know it. Look at how they've stuck with him through his slump. But what are they going to do with him, keep him in the minors forever? You're right. Better to squander all his major league service time. He's a Boras client you know. He's got a 6 year shelf life as far as the Sox are concerned.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 24, 2014 7:28:06 GMT -5
Boras clients have signed extensions. You know what a great way to convince one of them not to sign an extension would be? Artificially manipulating his service time to gain a year of control after he's clearly earned a major league job.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 24, 2014 8:21:58 GMT -5
This 2nd Wild-Card is a joke. LA will prob win over 95 games. And, have a better record than the East and Central winners. Their reward. A one-game playoff with a team that goes 84-78. Just BS. I did a what-if historical study, and the gap between the first and second wild cards, had they had them back then, in most years would have been very large. So this year is typical. At the very least, they need to give the first WC more of an advantage. I like the idea of playing a potential doubleheader, with the second WC team needing to sweep to advance. IOW, it's a best of three, only the first WC has a game in hand, and the if-necessary game 3 is scheduled for the evening of game 2. OTOH, historically the first WC has had a record comparable to the division champs, so there is no need to handicap them once you're down to four teams. I think this is interesting, so it is basically the 5th team needs to win 2 before the 4th team wins one right? Problem is the year where the two wildcard teams are tied and they need a tiebreaker to determine who gets that 1 game. I do agree, the wild card game is a coin flip after 30 teams play 162 games to differentiate from each other. The message to me is win the division.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 24, 2014 8:22:26 GMT -5
Jon Shestakofsky ?@shesta_Sox 7m
With his start at 2B today, Brock Holt will become the first Red Sox ever to start at every position other than P and C in the same season.
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Post by okin15 on Jul 24, 2014 8:27:58 GMT -5
This 2nd Wild-Card is a joke. LA will prob win over 95 games. And, have a better record than the East and Central winners. Their reward. A one-game playoff with a team that goes 84-78. Just BS. I did a what-if historical study, and the gap between the first and second wild cards, had they had them back then, in most years would have been very large. So this year is typical. OTOH, historically the first WC has had a record comparable to the division champs, so there is no need to handicap them once you're down to four teams. The second wild-card is perfect. It handicaps a team that couldn't beat a division rival despite 18 games vs them. It helps the best team in the league because the wild-card has to play a winner-take-all game and use up their ace. It's also incredibly exciting both during the regular season and as an automatic game 7, right off the bat!
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 24, 2014 8:57:29 GMT -5
This 2nd Wild-Card is a joke. LA will prob win over 95 games. And, have a better record than the East and Central winners. Their reward. A one-game playoff with a team that goes 84-78. Just BS. It is. I'm a purist and would rather get rid of divisions and go back to the World Series being played by the two teams with the best record in each league. But we know, they have to do anything to keep short attention span fair weather fans interested in their teams for more of the season. At least its not as bad the NFL or NBA where every halfway decent team gets in.
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 24, 2014 10:09:13 GMT -5
The wild card teams in the NFL tend to be good. The problem is that the winner of some crummy division goes 9-7 or 8-8 every year and gets in.
My personal theory is that adding a second wild card is to get a five-team playoff set up for the league to go to four divisions of four teams each following the next expansion.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 24, 2014 10:33:47 GMT -5
And it's way easier for luck to determine a baseball game than a football game.
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Post by redsox4242 on Jul 24, 2014 11:39:03 GMT -5
Can we please win today, go red sox!!
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Post by Guidas on Jul 24, 2014 11:57:27 GMT -5
The wild card teams in the NFL tend to be good. The problem is that the winner of some crummy division goes 9-7 or 8-8 every year and gets in. My personal theory is that adding a second wild card is to get a five-team playoff set up for the league to go to four divisions of four teams each following the next expansion. True, but at least in football both NFC and AFC play by the exact same set of rules, no matter whose stadium they're in. I know - radical concepts.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 24, 2014 11:59:33 GMT -5
Sox are 25-15 in games started by Lester and Lackey. 22-39 in the rest. Of the rest of the starters when Rubby goes at least we're 4-3. Note to self. Take the under on total wins for Sox next year.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 24, 2014 12:20:48 GMT -5
Some real buzzard luck so far, but also a LOT of hard contact. Looks like the book on Rubby may be out en force now.
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Post by atzar on Jul 24, 2014 12:22:29 GMT -5
Sox are 25-15 in games started by Lester and Lackey. 22-39 in the rest. Of the rest of the starters when Rubby goes at least we're 4-3. Note to self. Take the under on total wins for Sox next year. You basically said "The Red Sox suck at winning games when Peavy, Buchholz, Doubront and Workman pitch." Of the four, I think only Buchholz is likely to still be starting for us, and nobody has a clue what he'll do next year. But Peavy is gone and I think Doubront and Workman are ultimately relievers.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 24, 2014 12:25:27 GMT -5
Sox are 25-15 in games started by Lester and Lackey. 22-39 in the rest. Of the rest of the starters when Rubby goes at least we're 4-3. Note to self. Take the under on total wins for Sox next year. You basically said "The Red Sox suck at winning games when Peavy, Buchholz, Doubront and Workman pitch." Of the four, I think only Buchholz is likely to still be starting for us, and nobody has a clue what he'll do next year. But Peavy is gone and I think Doubront and Workman are ultimately relievers. Wrong. I'm saying we have a .625 winning pct in games pitched by Lackey and Lester. Not sure we have either back next year. Don't care who the heck we bring up. They won't be as good as Lackey and Lester.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 24, 2014 12:57:31 GMT -5
If anyone is watching they are sitting on his "amazing" change-up. And swinging at the first pitch. Fugly.
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Post by templeusox on Jul 24, 2014 13:12:05 GMT -5
We literally go through this EVERY Thursday getaway day. This isn't just a fluke. Every time the Sox have a flight to catch, the opposing pitcher turns into one of the best pitchers in baseball. It's amazing.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jul 24, 2014 13:32:49 GMT -5
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Post by Guidas on Jul 24, 2014 13:34:45 GMT -5
We literally go through this EVERY Thursday getaway day. This isn't just a fluke. Every time the Sox have a flight to catch, the opposing pitcher turns into one of the best pitchers in baseball. It's amazing. Also doesn't help that De La Rosa is a hot, steaming pile out there today.
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Post by templeusox on Jul 24, 2014 13:36:09 GMT -5
They refuse to even put up competitive AB's against him. Stroman's stuff is nothing special. There's no reason not to be working him right now.
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