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Post by RedSoxStats on Aug 26, 2016 15:43:23 GMT -5
This is from a few days ago, but should JBJ really be lumped in with Xander? Red Sox Stats @redsoxstats Aug 21 Bradley "needs to get going." .865 OPS on the trip, .125 babip, with an average exit velocity of 95. Hit the ball 91, 97, 101 today. He's striking out 30% of the time in August. Something isn't right with him still, but I agree he's not as bad as Bogaerts is at the plate right now. On the road trip it was 30% too, but at the time his K% was around 20% with the hard contact... then the 4 K game shot that number up. Not worried about him, especially if the Monster gets his approach back that went away yesterday when he was pulling outside pitches.
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Post by patford on Aug 26, 2016 15:55:38 GMT -5
I'm not worried about JBJ or Bogaerts. Both are due for a well timed hot streak.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 26, 2016 16:13:19 GMT -5
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Post by telson13 on Aug 26, 2016 16:35:37 GMT -5
I was almost sure he'd torn his LCL, so I'm ecstatic to be wrong about it. That's huge news. Fingers crossed he comes back in time and plays in the postseason.
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Post by radiohix on Aug 26, 2016 17:06:18 GMT -5
I am happy to hear that
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Post by ramireja on Aug 26, 2016 17:09:48 GMT -5
File this under "pretty irrelevant" but it looks like Benintendi will maintain rookie eligibility for next year right?
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 26, 2016 20:22:49 GMT -5
File this under "pretty irrelevant" but it looks like Benintendi will maintain rookie eligibility for next year right? Good catch. He's 62 AB shy of losing his eligibility, which would be impossible unless he comes back in about two weeks.
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Post by templeusox on Aug 26, 2016 22:43:32 GMT -5
He can also do it with 45 active days on the roster.
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Post by ramireja on Aug 26, 2016 23:13:03 GMT -5
He can also do it with 45 active days on the roster. But if I'm not mistaken, active days on the roster can't be accumulated after the September expansion of the rosters.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 26, 2016 23:21:17 GMT -5
He can also do it with 45 active days on the roster. But if I'm not mistaken, active days on the roster can't be accumulated after the September expansion of the rosters. That is correct, and the active roster excludes the DL (and the military list). He had 24 days.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 27, 2016 12:16:41 GMT -5
I was almost sure he'd torn his LCL, so I'm ecstatic to be wrong about it. That's huge news. Fingers crossed he comes back in time and plays in the postseason. There needs to be some serious therapy during the rehab. The way the knee torqued indicates significant strain on that ligament at the very least. Some sort of strength-building regime would seem to be in order. It did look like possible damage, so this is good. I'd like that he's fully recovered before he's on the bases again.
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Post by marrcus on Aug 27, 2016 14:24:46 GMT -5
Jose was out the 15d DL for what appears to be something similar. We'll miss AB's hitting bigtime if we have to stick with Young much longer than 15d.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 27, 2016 20:31:07 GMT -5
I was almost sure he'd torn his LCL, so I'm ecstatic to be wrong about it. That's huge news. Fingers crossed he comes back in time and plays in the postseason. There needs to be some serious therapy during the rehab. The way the knee torqued indicates significant strain on that ligament at the very least. Some sort of strength-building regime would seem to be in order. It did look like possible damage, so this is good. I'd like that he's fully recovered before he's on the bases again. I know a shrink in Brookline who's very good with sports fan anxiety.
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Post by tylerlterrell on Aug 27, 2016 22:41:34 GMT -5
There needs to be some serious therapy during the rehab. The way the knee torqued indicates significant strain on that ligament at the very least. Some sort of strength-building regime would seem to be in order. It did look like possible damage, so this is good. I'd like that he's fully recovered before he's on the bases again. I know a shrink in Brookline who's very good with sports fan anxiety. You don't "Strengthen" it. There is an acute phase where inflammation will be dealt with. There are natural healing times for certain tissues, bones, etc and those can not be rushed but can vary from person to person. This does not appear to be a "functional" problem given the fact that the stress on the knee occurred because of the inversion or rolling of the L ankle. This left the knee vulnerable.
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Post by patford on Aug 27, 2016 23:14:10 GMT -5
We forget what it's like to be young. Give him another year and the knee would have blown. I'm still wondering about the second ankle he has above his natural ankle. That's just weird.
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Post by patford on Aug 27, 2016 23:15:39 GMT -5
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Post by templeusox on Aug 28, 2016 7:34:36 GMT -5
Like a baby foal emerging into this cruel world.
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 29, 2016 12:07:49 GMT -5
But if I'm not mistaken, active days on the roster can't be accumulated after the September expansion of the rosters. That is correct, and the active roster excludes the DL (and the military list). He had 24 days. Unless there's been a change, time on the 15-day DL counts toward the active roster. I remember that being of importance when it made Lew Ford ineligible to win the 2004 AL ROY. Benintendi will still be short of the 45-day limit though.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Aug 29, 2016 15:34:38 GMT -5
That is correct, and the active roster excludes the DL (and the military list). He had 24 days. Unless there's been a change, time on the 15-day DL counts toward the active roster. I remember that being of importance when it made Lew Ford ineligible to win the 2004 AL ROY. Benintendi will still be short of the 45-day limit though. Per B-ref (looks like DL time doesn't count): Currently a player is considered to be a rookie, and thus eligible for the award, if the player has accumulated in prior major league seasons: Fewer than 130 at bats or Fewer than 50 innings pitched Fewer than 45 days on the active roster, excluding time on the disabled list, in military service, or time when the rosters are expanded (currently after September 1) www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Rookie_of_the_Year_Award
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Post by brianthetaoist on Aug 30, 2016 7:26:15 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 30, 2016 8:00:02 GMT -5
Interesting. I wonder if that's a change or if I'm just mis-remembering the 2004 thing.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 30, 2016 15:40:10 GMT -5
I was almost sure he'd torn his LCL, so I'm ecstatic to be wrong about it. That's huge news. Fingers crossed he comes back in time and plays in the postseason. There needs to be some serious therapy during the rehab. The way the knee torqued indicates significant strain on that ligament at the very least. Some sort of strength-building regime would seem to be in order. It did look like possible damage, so this is good. I'd like that he's fully recovered before he's on the bases again. Worst thing about the LCL is that it's problematic long-term. Occult significant tears are common (not visible on MRI), and stability is a problem later on because the ligament gets lax. So yeah, I agree 100%. If it means he can't come back this year, even, it's worth it. *Serious* rehab.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 30, 2016 15:43:54 GMT -5
I know a shrink in Brookline who's very good with sports fan anxiety. You don't "Strengthen" it. There is an acute phase where inflammation will be dealt with. There are natural healing times for certain tissues, bones, etc and those can not be rushed but can vary from person to person. This does not appear to be a "functional" problem given the fact that the stress on the knee occurred because of the inversion or rolling of the L ankle. This left the knee vulnerable. I think he's more referring to regaining strength in the supporting musculature. But yeah, agreed, there's no way to strengthen a ligament unless you surgically replace it, unless you believe in prolotherapy, which is almost wholly theoretical despite being in clinical practice.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 30, 2016 15:59:49 GMT -5
Strengthening the muscular framework was exactly what I was referring to, as I'm aware that there is nothing to strengthen in a ligament. For a player with so much potential it just seems to me you'd want to take care not to do permanent damage, and that is a possibility.
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Post by dd on Aug 31, 2016 22:41:07 GMT -5
You don't "Strengthen" it. There is an acute phase where inflammation will be dealt with. There are natural healing times for certain tissues, bones, etc and those can not be rushed but can vary from person to person. This does not appear to be a "functional" problem given the fact that the stress on the knee occurred because of the inversion or rolling of the L ankle. This left the knee vulnerable. I think he's more referring to regaining strength in the supporting musculature. But yeah, agreed, there's no way to strengthen a ligament unless you surgically replace it, unless you believe in prolotherapy, which is almost wholly theoretical despite being in clinical practice. I've never heard of prolotherapy until now but I tend not to believe in things that you have to "believe in" in order to believe. Evidence is better. Thanks for the quack alert, Telson13.
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