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Post by telson13 on Aug 31, 2016 22:56:43 GMT -5
I think he's more referring to regaining strength in the supporting musculature. But yeah, agreed, there's no way to strengthen a ligament unless you surgically replace it, unless you believe in prolotherapy, which is almost wholly theoretical despite being in clinical practice. I've never heard of prolotherapy until now but I tend not to believe in things that you have to "believe in" in order to believe. Evidence is better. Thanks for the quack alert, Telson13. Yeah, while there's a reasonable theoretical basis (just like with platelet-rich plasma injection, in which TGF-beta and other platelet-derived growth factors are supposed to increase connective tissue, eg ligament, repair), a lot of these techniques are in practice without actually being validated by studies. And often, clinical practices (like, say, kyphoplasty for vertebral compression fracture) continue even when clinical evidence says that they're more or less useless. I actually tend to think that PRP and prolotherapy probably will turn out to have some benefit once enough clinical data are collected, but there have been many, many (eating cholesterol and saturated fat is bad for you, for example) seemingly rational theories that turn out to be bunk. All of that said, I'm pretty sure the Sox will be incredibly thorough in exploring and exhausting their options with AB. If he really did luck out and has no LCL tear, preventing muscle atrophy while resting is probably his biggest concern. I'm still a little nervous that there might be an occult tear or some ligament stretch resulting in instability, but for now things seem cautiously optimistic.
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Post by azblue on Sept 1, 2016 11:42:06 GMT -5
From baseball notes in today's online Portland Press Herald:
"A SCOUT WITH another organization visited Hadlock Field last week and the subject of Mookie Betts’ success came up. The scout was not surprised. “I have rated only four prospects (with top marks) – Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, Mookie Betts and …Andrew Benintendi.”
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Post by burythehammer on Sept 1, 2016 12:37:19 GMT -5
Huh, that's exactly the same quote that Speier had from a scout earlier in the season.
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Post by azblue on Sept 1, 2016 13:46:38 GMT -5
Speier quoted a scout making that statement regarding Betts, but I do not recall that the scout with whom Speier spoke mentioned Andrew Benintendi.
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Post by adamoraz on Sept 1, 2016 16:53:46 GMT -5
I saw this quote a few days ago, just another indication of how much potential this guy has.
Get well soon Benny!
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 2, 2016 15:50:43 GMT -5
Speier quoted a scout making that statement regarding Betts, but I do not recall that the scout with whom Speier spoke mentioned Andrew Benintendi. No, that was definitely in an 108 Stitches this year. My guess is that Thomas spoke to the same scout.
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Post by radiohix on Sept 2, 2016 16:44:04 GMT -5
This makes me happy.
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Post by burythehammer on Sept 2, 2016 17:09:33 GMT -5
Speier quoted a scout making that statement regarding Betts, but I do not recall that the scout with whom Speier spoke mentioned Andrew Benintendi. No, that was definitely in an 108 Stitches this year. My guess is that Thomas spoke to the same scout. It was the April 28 version, here's the quote: “In seven years,” said one of the evaluators, “I have only put four 70/80 final grades on position players I saw in A ball: [Mike] Trout, [Bryce] Harper, [Mookie] Betts, and Benintendi.”
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Post by templeusox on Sept 2, 2016 17:39:40 GMT -5
He'll be back by next Saturday.
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Post by adamoraz on Sept 3, 2016 8:00:19 GMT -5
Nice to see him moving around so well. If he's really healthy it would be huge to see him back in the lineup this month.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 3, 2016 8:32:54 GMT -5
...often, clinical practices (like, say, kyphoplasty for vertebral compression fracture) continue even when clinical evidence says that they're more or less useless... It actually took a comprehensive study out of Australia to highlight the utter uselessness of kyphoplasty as practiced in the US. That's after thousands of operations and billions of dollars spent for the operation had turned it into the next big thing, with no clinical evidence whatsoever to back it up. That money machine was free-running. No one bothered to put a governor on it.
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Post by telson13 on Sept 3, 2016 17:41:40 GMT -5
...often, clinical practices (like, say, kyphoplasty for vertebral compression fracture) continue even when clinical evidence says that they're more or less useless... It actually took a comprehensive study out of Australia to highlight the utter uselessness of kyphoplasty as practiced in the US. That's after thousands of operations and billions of dollars spent for the operation had turned it into the next big thing, with no clinical evidence whatsoever to back it up. That money machine was free-running. No one bothered to put a governor on it. That Australian study is more or less ignored, too. Kyphoplasty is still regularly performed despite there being no discernible clinical benefit (and there being real risk related to general anesthesia, and the surgical technique itself). I once argued with a cardiologist over the recommendation to implant a pacemaker/defibrillator into a 70-y/o with terminal progressive lung cancer and stage 3 heart failure. No clinical benefit, all clinical risk. And don't get me started on statins.
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Post by telson13 on Sept 3, 2016 17:45:08 GMT -5
...often, clinical practices (like, say, kyphoplasty for vertebral compression fracture) continue even when clinical evidence says that they're more or less useless... It actually took a comprehensive study out of Australia to highlight the utter uselessness of kyphoplasty as practiced in the US. That's after thousands of operations and billions of dollars spent for the operation had turned it into the next big thing, with no clinical evidence whatsoever to back it up. That money machine was free-running. No one bothered to put a governor on it. Moral of the story: all of these guys getting PRP and prolotherapy are probably doing so for placebo effects. Medicine in the 21st century is largely driven by profit; non-profit, for-the-good-of-the-community hospitals and practice have been absorbed into the machine.
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Post by adamoraz on Sept 4, 2016 17:31:25 GMT -5
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Post by radiohix on Sept 6, 2016 17:59:56 GMT -5
Some videos to cheer us up: Benny running:
Benny hitting:
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Post by adamoraz on Sept 13, 2016 17:53:48 GMT -5
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Sept 13, 2016 19:17:36 GMT -5
Where/when to play him? Has CY earned the LF job?
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Post by klostrophobic on Sept 13, 2016 23:21:19 GMT -5
Where/when to play him? Has CY earned the LF job? Chris Young against lefties and Benintendi against righties. Pretty easy rotation.
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Post by tjb21 on Sept 14, 2016 12:09:38 GMT -5
I wonder if they will give JBJ or Mookie a day off sometime soon and have AB sub in.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Sept 14, 2016 18:17:41 GMT -5
Where/when to play him? Has CY earned the LF job? Chris Young against lefties and Benintendi against righties. Pretty easy rotation. With CY hitting well against righties this year (125 PA), I suspect JF is inclined to stick with him in LF until: he looks really bad in a game or two; struggles for several games; or needs "a rest," and he gets it against a tough righty.
We'll see how it plays out. Managers tend to love their veterans better than their rookies.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 15, 2016 6:23:18 GMT -5
Chris Young against lefties and Benintendi against righties. Pretty easy rotation. With CY hitting well against righties this year (125 PA), I suspect JF is inclined to stick with him in LF until: he looks really bad in a game or two; struggles for several games; or needs "a rest," and he gets it against a tough righty.
We'll see how it plays out. Managers tend to love their veterans better than their rookies.
Since coming off the DL, Young's hitting .281/.395/.563 vs. RHP, in 38 PA, and his BABIP is .292 so it's not like he's getting super lucky. Makes sense to ride Young while he's hot, imo.
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Post by tjb21 on Sept 15, 2016 9:56:29 GMT -5
Glad AB is back and seemingly healthy. Young has been great too!
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Post by dmaineah on Sept 15, 2016 10:37:32 GMT -5
Benintendi should start & hit 2nd. Mookie 3rd & Ortiz 4th.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 21, 2016 12:05:27 GMT -5
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Post by iakovos11 on Sept 21, 2016 12:17:19 GMT -5
It's not Young is hurting them. He's been decent against RHP, too. See Hatfield's post 4 posts above. Makes sense to be careful.
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