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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 10, 2016 1:21:51 GMT -5
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 10, 2016 1:28:00 GMT -5
I hope we go college P on the first pick. I could do a guy like Kentucky's Kyle Cody or NC's Zac Gallen.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 10, 2016 2:42:22 GMT -5
Potential re-drafts still on the board:
Trever Morrison SS Oregon State (BA #193)
Will Stillman RHP Wofford (BA #288)
Kevin Ginkel RHP Arizona (BA #451)
Clate Schmidt RHP Clemson (BA #493)
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Post by eagleeye9184 on Jun 10, 2016 6:35:35 GMT -5
Funkhouser, Gallen would be preferred. Krook if they wanted to roll the dice with an upside project. Saw Gallen pitch as a freshman. Excellent command. Would be a solid pick.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 10, 2016 7:14:52 GMT -5
Jim Crowell @crowelljim Chris Hatfield if they draft a senior in rounds 3/4 he's getting $5M. If the wait until 5, that's a sign it'll be in the $4M range. Jim Crowell @crowelljim Chris Hatfield basically comes down to if he wants top 5 or top 3 money. We'll know early on today. This. We'll either have a very boring day, or a fairly interesting one. Either way, we'll know what's up with Groome. |
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Post by borisman on Jun 10, 2016 7:17:08 GMT -5
Jon Duplantier or Braden Webb please. We're used to Henry Owens so either of these guys will fit right in.
I'm still upset we didn't get Nolan Jones but he would have been a tough sign especially with Groome on board.
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Post by texs31 on Jun 10, 2016 7:43:46 GMT -5
Maybe a dumb question but there is a difference between someone who is a College Senior and someone who is a "Senior Sign", correct?
I think of the likes of Funkhouser, Cody, etc. being seniors but not necessarily guys that are going to give you huge discounts. A "Senior Sign" is someone who you are getting for WELL below slot (40-50K bonus, for example).
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 10, 2016 7:52:33 GMT -5
Maybe a dumb question but there is a difference between someone who is a College Senior and someone who is a "Senior Sign", correct? I think of the likes of Funkhouser, Cody, etc. being seniors but not necessarily guys that are going to give you huge discounts. A "Senior Sign" is someone who you are getting for WELL below slot (40-50K bonus, for example). True, Funkhouser has little leverage but won't sign for 10K. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 10, 2016 8:17:06 GMT -5
Available players who have been tied to the Red Sox in one way or another (BA500 ranking):
RHP Davis Daniel, St. James School, Montgomery, Ala. (#109)
C Thomas Dillard, Oxford (Miss.) HS (#147)
RHP Grant Gambrell, Buchanan HS, Clovis, Calif. (#217)
RHP/OF Brandon Fraley, Caravel Academy, Bear, Del. (#375)
RHP George Kirby, Rye (N.Y.) HS (#379)
RHP Reggie McClain, Mizzou (#474)
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Post by ramireja on Jun 10, 2016 9:09:42 GMT -5
Its funny how quickly the rumors around Groome's signing bonus have escalated. I really don't understand how we would need a ton of seniors to sign Groome. I thought Groome's initial asking price was 4mill, which first off, is usually a sign that they will sign for slightly less. By my calculations, our slot value plus the 5% overage nearly brings us to about 3.5 mill. Also, I get that it was in the heat of the moment, but Groome said something after getting drafted about not caring that much about the money. I honestly wouldn't be that surprised if he signed for slot.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jun 10, 2016 9:15:16 GMT -5
Part of it is they need to get guys who almost assuredly would take a little less than slot in round 2, which explains the Chatham pick, and round 3, since they lose the slot money completely if they don't sign guys in those rounds. In rounds 4-10, they can take some college seniors to save cash, but will still probably take a couple guys that will sign for several hundred thousand, by my understanding.
That should get us enough money to sign Groome and also take a few other decent prospects such as Chatham.
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Post by jdb on Jun 10, 2016 9:27:39 GMT -5
Jon Duplantier or Braden Webb please. We're used to Henry Owens so either of these guys will fit right in. I'm still upset we didn't get Nolan Jones but he would have been a tough sign especially with Groome on board. I've heard Webb's medicals are supposedly horrible and will keep him off a ton of boards. TJ took away basically two seasons and he had some sort of childhood arm injury. |
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jun 10, 2016 9:27:55 GMT -5
Seems like the Cardinals have a ton of picks every year, maybe they just stand out more because they are a small market team that's actually good.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jun 10, 2016 9:31:59 GMT -5
The Cardinals also qualify for the competitive balance lottery and that gives them extra picks.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 10, 2016 9:34:29 GMT -5
The Cardinals also qualify for the competitive balance lottery and that gives them extra picks. Yeah, this keeps bugging me. I mean, the Cardinals might qualify as small market, but they're contenders every year. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 10, 2016 9:51:27 GMT -5
The Cardinals also qualify for the competitive balance lottery and that gives them extra picks. Yeah, this keeps bugging me. I mean, the Cardinals might qualify as small market, but they're contenders every year. So then competitively balanced ? |
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 10, 2016 10:03:37 GMT -5
Heath Quinn would be a great pick at #88.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Jun 10, 2016 10:06:34 GMT -5
Heath Quinn would be a great pick at #88. H. Quinn has a killer bat!!!  |
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Post by bluechip on Jun 10, 2016 10:08:17 GMT -5
The Cardinals also qualify for the competitive balance lottery and that gives them extra picks. Yeah, this keeps bugging me. I mean, the Cardinals might qualify as small market, but they're contenders every year. Correct if I'm wrong, but they qualify due to the way MLB defines the size of the market, not by their revenue or income. The cardinals consistently have a top 12 payroll. St Louis while not as bigger as other cities really has a strong interest in baseball. |
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Post by Costigan on Jun 10, 2016 10:12:56 GMT -5
Heath Quinn would be a great pick at #88. He's a Red Sox fan as well! |
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 10, 2016 10:19:33 GMT -5
10 picks to go until #88:
The top 10 players, according to MLB's rankings, still on the board, are:
34. Jared Horn, RHP, Vintage (Calif.) HS
36. Drew Mendoza, 3B, Lake Minneola (Fla.) HS
39. Corbin Burnes, RHP, St. Mary's
44. Jon Duplantier, RHP, Rice
47. Cole Stobbe, 3B, Millard West HS, Omaha, Neb.
53. Thomas Jones, OF, Laurens (S.C.) HS
55. Heath Quinn, OF, Samford
58. Kyle Funkhouser, RHP, Louisville
60. Nonie Williams, SS, Turner (Kan.) HS
64. Bryson Brigman, SS, San Diego
Horn and Mendoza are signability guys and, with the Groome selection, are unlikely picks for BOS. Burnes, Duplantier and Funkhouser are college pitchers. Burnes has bullpen risk, Duplantier has injury risk, and Funk has high bust potential.
Jones is an interesting guy but, as a Vandy signee, may have signability issues. He's 6'4", was a two-sport guy in HS (football safety) and has plus-plus speed. Seems like the kind of pick BOS likes but would only work if he could get signed for slot. Williams is also interesting, as a home-schooled KS kid who is athletic but doesn't have a true position.
One other wildcard is Jesus Luzardo, a Florida HS lefty projected as a first rounder who had TJ about 10 weeks ago. He could probably be signed at slot. One other name to consider is Nolan Martinez, a 17YO HS RHP from California. The San Diego State signee has a three-pitch mix, clean delivery and some projection left.
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Post by nomar on Jun 10, 2016 10:24:33 GMT -5
I'd love Heath Quinn. He got overshadowed by Lewis but he's got power and some speed too. Obviously the Southern conference isn't exactly Miller competition but he's got a high ceiling.
Pass on Funkhouser. I think his command is just terrible and doubt it's ever going to get that much better. Not to mention that he won't be an easy sign for a college senior.
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Post by justen on Jun 10, 2016 10:29:56 GMT -5
10 picks to go until #88: The top 10 players, according to MLB's rankings, still on the board, are: 34. Jared Horn, RHP, Vintage (Calif.) HS 36. Drew Mendoza, 3B, Lake Minneola (Fla.) HS 39. Corbin Burnes, RHP, St. Mary's 44. Jon Duplantier, RHP, Rice 47. Cole Stobbe, 3B, Millard West HS, Omaha, Neb. 53. Thomas Jones, OF, Laurens (S.C.) HS 55. Heath Quinn, OF, Samford 58. Kyle Funkhouser, RHP, Louisville 60. Nonie Williams, SS, Turner (Kan.) HS 64. Bryson Brigman, SS, San Diego Horn and Mendoza are signability guys and, with the Groome selection, are unlikely picks for BOS. Burnes, Duplantier and Funkhouser are college pitchers. Burnes has bullpen risk, Duplantier has injury risk, and Funk has high bust potential. IS Williams considered a signability guy? He's got some real nice tools and plenty of upside. |
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Post by templeusox on Jun 10, 2016 10:36:30 GMT -5
10 picks to go until #88: The top 10 players, according to MLB's rankings, still on the board, are: 34. Jared Horn, RHP, Vintage (Calif.) HS 36. Drew Mendoza, 3B, Lake Minneola (Fla.) HS 39. Corbin Burnes, RHP, St. Mary's 44. Jon Duplantier, RHP, Rice 47. Cole Stobbe, 3B, Millard West HS, Omaha, Neb. 53. Thomas Jones, OF, Laurens (S.C.) HS 55. Heath Quinn, OF, Samford 58. Kyle Funkhouser, RHP, Louisville 60. Nonie Williams, SS, Turner (Kan.) HS 64. Bryson Brigman, SS, San Diego Horn and Mendoza are signability guys and, with the Groome selection, are unlikely picks for BOS. Burnes, Duplantier and Funkhouser are college pitchers. Burnes has bullpen risk, Duplantier has injury risk, and Funk has high bust potential. IS Williams considered a signability guy? He's got some real nice tools and plenty of upside. College pitching where you at? We're going to go heavy on you today. |
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jun 10, 2016 10:56:10 GMT -5
As much as the irrational fangirl in me wants the Red Sox to draft BA's 1-40 list each draft, the only thing that I would find unforgivable would be if they had substantial money left over at the deadline. The Red Sox may draft some players that don't do anything while passing up some players that end up elite major leaguers (as all teams hit/miss), but I don't think anybody can accuse the Boston FO of not trying. They are willing to spend their money, whether in FA, the draft, or IFA market, to improve our team and keep our team competitive. Sometimes I may scratch my head at a pick, but now more than ever we have to evaluate the draft class as a whole rather than each pick in a vacuum. And the FO has definitely earned my trust, just like how I learned to stop questioning the Patriots draft choices.
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