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Post by Guidas on Apr 2, 2022 15:31:05 GMT -5
Justin Upton DFA'd. If it's just MLB minimum, he seems like a better option than Refsnyder.
.355 OBP/.838 OPS vs LHP last year.
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Post by radiohix on Apr 2, 2022 16:02:34 GMT -5
I just love great CF defense
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 2, 2022 16:59:50 GMT -5
I’m game for Upton. I’d rather have him to face lefties than Shaw to face… anyone? Depends what role he'd accept. He's going to be a free agent and could have options out there other than being the short side of an outfield platoon with JBJ. Money will be the same wherever. I'd be a little surprised if he winds up on a minor league deal. If Pablo can get an MLB deal...
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 3, 2022 9:53:57 GMT -5
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Post by nomar on Apr 3, 2022 10:05:05 GMT -5
I think he’s pretty overrated. Curious to see the price
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 3, 2022 10:17:26 GMT -5
Full trade is Manaea and Aaron Holiday for Euribiel Angeles and Adrian Martinez. Angeles was the Padres' #10 prospect according to BA, while Martinez was #19.
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Post by Addam603 on Apr 3, 2022 10:35:47 GMT -5
Full trade is Manaea and Aaron Holiday for Euribiel Angeles and Adrian Martinez. Angeles was the Padres' #10 prospect according to BA, while Martinez was #19. Definitely seems like another move is coming. The Padres were in discussions to move salary before this and they just added almost $10 mil in salary with Manaea.
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Post by stevedillard on Apr 3, 2022 10:41:05 GMT -5
Full trade is Manaea and Aaron Holiday for Euribiel Angeles and Adrian Martinez. Angeles was the Padres' #10 prospect according to BA, while Martinez was #19. I think Loss of Angeles is bigger than San Diego's gain, even with a Holiday thrown in.
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Post by nomar on Apr 3, 2022 10:42:16 GMT -5
Full trade is Manaea and Aaron Holiday for Euribiel Angeles and Adrian Martinez. Angeles was the Padres' #10 prospect according to BA, while Martinez was #19. Wow they gave up nothing. Angeles is basically a one tool player (granted it is hit tool). That’s like Bonaci and Santos as a package. I bet there’s 15 other teams thinking “wow we could have matched that”.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 3, 2022 10:45:03 GMT -5
Full trade is Manaea and Aaron Holiday for Euribiel Angeles and Adrian Martinez. Angeles was the Padres' #10 prospect according to BA, while Martinez was #19. I think Loss of Angeles is bigger than San Diego's gain, even with a Holiday thrown in. Funny because the loss of Angeles is their biggest rival.
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 3, 2022 10:58:01 GMT -5
Looks like that move puts the Padres just over the luxury tax. Yesterday's rumored Hosmer deal would put them under with a few million to spare
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 3, 2022 12:38:39 GMT -5
Full trade is Manaea and Aaron Holiday for Euribiel Angeles and Adrian Martinez. Angeles was the Padres' #10 prospect according to BA, while Martinez was #19. Wow they gave up nothing. Angeles is basically a one tool player (granted it is hit tool). That’s like Bonaci and Santos as a package. I bet there’s 15 other teams thinking “wow we could have matched that”. Disagree with that assessment. That Angeles kid can really hit. And he has some good speed too and a chance to increase his power somewhat although it might be more doubles based power. So a 2b who might be a .300 hitter atop of the lineup with good speed, for a year of Manaea when you're not going anywhere is a pretty good get. I'd take Angeles over Bonaci and Santos if I were Oakland.
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Post by cdj on Apr 3, 2022 15:05:37 GMT -5
Yankees acquired Miguel Castro from the Mets for Joely Rodriguez
Interesting deal. Castro is probably better, but Rodriguez has 3 more years of control (and is a LHP)
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Post by cdj on Apr 3, 2022 19:52:29 GMT -5
Orioles sending 2 of their best relievers to the Marlins in Sulser and Scott
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Post by cdj on Apr 4, 2022 0:22:41 GMT -5
Marlins released Delino Deshields Jr for those who may be desperate on that RH outfielder
.254/.329/.384 against lefties for his career with good speed + good defense!!
(I am not interested)
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 4, 2022 9:09:56 GMT -5
A one-tool player with "only" a hit tool is a prospect if the hit tool is serious. A four-tool player without a hit tool is not. Unless he's a pitcher, at which point three of those tools are kinda superfluous but also cool.
Angeles can actually play shortstop too, though.
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Post by nomar on Apr 4, 2022 9:11:48 GMT -5
Yeah I’m probably being a little harsh, but I really don’t love the return personally. But at the same time I don’t love Manaea either, so I guess I’m in hater mode right now.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 4, 2022 10:09:43 GMT -5
A one-tool player with "only" a hit tool is a prospect if the hit tool is serious. A four-tool player without a hit tool is not. Unless he's a pitcher, at which point three of those tools are kinda superfluous but also cool. Angeles can actually play shortstop too, though. Wade Boggs was a guy who only had one of the five tools when he started out. He could flat out hit. Had no speed. Had no power. Wasn't good defensively. Wasn't known for having that strong an arm. The Sox almost released him at times because of the lack of the other four tools. But when he came up, eventually he acquired a second tool, the ability to be a good defensive 3b, which came over time, and I'd say his arm was certainly adequate enough. The power came in the form of doubles and he did have that 24 HR season. I'm not saying Angeles is Wade Boggs, but if we had another guy like that in the system I think we'd be pretty stoked about it. He certainly wouldn't be ahead of Yorke of course. I would say Angeles probably has at least a second tool - decent speed.
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 4, 2022 11:07:12 GMT -5
Julio Rodriguez made the Mariners opening day roster despite 0 AAA plate appearances.
I am thinking the Prospect Promotion Incentive draft picks actually changed teams behavior, despite my thinking it wouldn't.
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Post by joshuacoffee on Apr 4, 2022 12:03:50 GMT -5
Wow they gave up nothing. Angeles is basically a one tool player (granted it is hit tool). That’s like Bonaci and Santos as a package. I bet there’s 15 other teams thinking “wow we could have matched that”. Disagree with that assessment. That Angeles kid can really hit. And he has some good speed too and a chance to increase his power somewhat although it might be more doubles based power. So a 2b who might be a .300 hitter atop of the lineup with good speed, for a year of Manaea when you're not going anywhere is a pretty good get. I'd take Angeles over Bonaci and Santos if I were Oakland. I know hardly anything about prospects not in the Red Sox system, so I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on what would have been a comparable package from the Sox on this. Also, for what it's worth, baseball trade values won't accept this trade. They really don't seem to value the prospects that Padre's gave up.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 4, 2022 13:25:09 GMT -5
The Pittsburg Pirates have a payroll of almost $38M with Felipe Vazquez who is in prison for 4 years making $10M (I'm not sure if they have to pay this or not so their team payroll could be $28M).
That's just freaking pathetic and MLBPA should have never given in on a salary floor. I guess the Red Sox should start looking to trade for anyone that's about to hit their first arbitration year out of Pittsburg because all they want are minimum salary players. Heath Hembree is the 5th highest paid player making $2.125M.
Bryan Reynolds is in his first arb year and is making 12% of their payroll. Red Sox should go after him to play RF.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 4, 2022 13:27:57 GMT -5
The Pittsburg Pirates have a payroll of almost $38M with Felipe Vazquez who is in prison for 4 years making $10M (I'm not sure if they have to pay this or not so their team payroll could be $28M). That's just freaking pathetic and MLBPA should have never given in on a salary floor. I guess the Red Sox should start looking to trade for anyone that's about to hit their first arbitration year out of Pittsburg because all they want are minimum salary players. Heath Hembree is the 5th highest paid player making $2.125M. Bryan Reynolds is in his first arb year and is making 12% of their payroll. Red Sox should go after him to play RF. FWIW, the Padres who'll trade any prospect for anybody was reportedly saying the acquisition cost of Reynolds was too high for their liking. Reynolds is good but I have no desire to see the Sox deal any of their top 3 for him and I suspect it would take at least one of them plus a lot more.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 4, 2022 13:28:53 GMT -5
The Pittsburg Pirates have a payroll of almost $38M with Felipe Vazquez who is in prison for 4 years making $10M (I'm not sure if they have to pay this or not so their team payroll could be $28M). That's just freaking pathetic and MLBPA should have never given in on a salary floor. I guess the Red Sox should start looking to trade for anyone that's about to hit their first arbitration year out of Pittsburg because all they want are minimum salary players. Heath Hembree is the 5th highest paid player making $2.125M. Bryan Reynolds is in his first arb year and is making 12% of their payroll. Red Sox should go after him to play RF. FWIW, the Padres who'll trade any prospect for anybody was reportedly saying the acquisition cost of Reynolds was too high for their liking. Reynolds is good but I have no desire to see the Sox deal any of their top 3 for him and I suspect it would take at least one of them plus a lot more. Then wait a year because there's no way they'll keep him past this year because he'll be making more than half their payroll.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 4, 2022 13:33:12 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 4, 2022 14:00:44 GMT -5
Hunter Renfroe is getting some time at first base for the Brewers.
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