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Post by sibbysisti on Mar 31, 2022 10:12:25 GMT -5
Steve Adams of MLBTR wrote today that the Padres and Pirates have been in discussion about a trade for OF Bryan Reynolds. Reynolds, an all star selectee, just qualified for arbitration. So he’s under team control for a few more years. A RH power hitter he,s now playing CF for the Bucs. It would take a lot to acquire him but he’s been rumored in trade discussions for some time.
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 31, 2022 10:26:54 GMT -5
Reynolds is a super two, so he's got four years. I'll give him 14 WAR over those years and project like $45 million in arb salary. That makes him underpaid by like $75 million. You should be looking at the biggest trade haul anyone's brought in this offseason.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Mar 31, 2022 10:29:08 GMT -5
The Marlins reportedly cut off negotiations for Reynolds because the price was so exorbitant. He's a Super 2, so he has 4 years left.
BTV has Reynolds at 85M in surplus trade value and Mayer at 55M, for perspective.
If we are talking to the Pirates, I hope it's about Bednar.
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Post by Guidas on Mar 31, 2022 13:05:33 GMT -5
Starting when can he be signed with no compensation? Thanks. After the draft. So, after July 19. What would the Sox give up if they signed him - a third-rounder? Given the dearth of OF talent in the Sox AA and AAA levels (Duran and no one else that projects to be MLB average in the next 2-3 years), it seems like a good move, even if it gives you two LH OFs. Better than risking injury or wear on JD or playing JBJ every day. Also, Kiké's probably gone after this year if he comes close to last year's performance. He will likely double (at least) the current AAV and years that the Sox gave him. Next year has few FA OFs of note, and even most of the "names" are sub-2.0fWAR. Other than Kiké, the bright lights are: Judge (potentially), Nimmo and (why can't we get guys like) Benintendi. Added: Joey Gallo also a FA. Perhaps the most frustrating guy to watch at the plate but still possesses a .348 OBP last year with 38 HRs and was a very good LF and RF. Certainly could bat him 6th and roll with the Ks.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 31, 2022 13:16:56 GMT -5
Conforto doesn't fit the team at all.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 31, 2022 13:20:22 GMT -5
After the draft. So, after July 19. What would the Sox give up if they signed him - a third rounder? That's right. The pick is currently #76.
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Post by Guidas on Mar 31, 2022 13:25:02 GMT -5
What would the Sox give up if they signed him - a third rounder? That's right. The pick is currently #76. So Story and Comforto would give the Sox a essentially net loss of a 3rd rounder since they got a pick for Rodriguez. I say do it either way.* The odds of a third rounder making it to MLB is less than 1%. I know the arguments about signing a slot or sub-slot guy and picking up another flyer lower down. If they really want to do that sign a slot 1st round guy and grab the excess cash from there. Picking in the 20s anyway. *Caveat: If the medicals check out and it's not for more than 4 years. I believe he just had an outlier down performance and will go back to being "Comforto" (i.e about a 3.2fWAR OF who bats around .360 OBP/.490 SLG with 25-30 HRs per year with a D that plays best in Fenway's LF).
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Post by missourimike441 on Mar 31, 2022 13:49:29 GMT -5
maybe it's already posted, but Scott Boras said today that Conforto injured his shoulder in personal workouts a couple months ago. Availability would be debatable if anybody wants to take a flyer on an injured FA.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Mar 31, 2022 15:00:21 GMT -5
What do you guys think of Bryan De La Cruz?
He's a 25yo RHH OFer who posted some pretty good numbers last year in 219 PA (115 wRC+). He has a solid glove (good in the corners, passable in CF) and a slightly below average arm.
The Marlins sent him down to AAA already and he's using up a 40-man spot. Has never been highly regarded by scouts but was traded as part of a deal for Yimi Garcia (RP from Miami to Houston) last year. Would be a nice fit with more upside than Refsnyder and price tag shouldn't be too high.
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Post by Guidas on Mar 31, 2022 15:08:16 GMT -5
What do you guys think of Bryan De La Cruz? He's a 25yo RHH OFer who posted some pretty good numbers last year in 219 PA (115 wRC+). He has a solid glove (good in the corners, passable in CF) and a slightly below average arm. The Marlins sent him down to AAA already and he's using up a 40-man spot. Has never been highly regarded by scouts but was traded as part of a deal for Yimi Garcia (RP from Miami to Houston) last year. Would be a nice fit with more upside than Refsnyder and price tag shouldn't be too high. Small sample and all but could be a good call. Does not appear to be a stellar defender.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Mar 31, 2022 15:28:14 GMT -5
What do you guys think of Bryan De La Cruz? He's a 25yo RHH OFer who posted some pretty good numbers last year in 219 PA (115 wRC+). He has a solid glove (good in the corners, passable in CF) and a slightly below average arm. The Marlins sent him down to AAA already and he's using up a 40-man spot. Has never been highly regarded by scouts but was traded as part of a deal for Yimi Garcia (RP from Miami to Houston) last year. Would be a nice fit with more upside than Refsnyder and price tag shouldn't be too high. Seems a little early for MIA to move on from BDLC, who is under team control for a long time, especially after a nice debut last season. Not sure how cheap he would be -- his stock has only gone up since that trade. Recall that this was the FO that Jeter quit out of frustration that they're too cheap; BDLC seems to be the type of guy they'd hang onto.
I think Refsnyder's experience and ability to play all three OF positions allows Chaim to be a little selective as he shops, knowing he's got at least a potential solution in house.
Seems like there will be a lot of movement between now and Opening Day, so I'm sure Chaim has his good eye on a few potential pick-ups.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Mar 31, 2022 15:34:23 GMT -5
What do you guys think of Bryan De La Cruz? He's a 25yo RHH OFer who posted some pretty good numbers last year in 219 PA (115 wRC+). He has a solid glove (good in the corners, passable in CF) and a slightly below average arm. The Marlins sent him down to AAA already and he's using up a 40-man spot. Has never been highly regarded by scouts but was traded as part of a deal for Yimi Garcia (RP from Miami to Houston) last year. Would be a nice fit with more upside than Refsnyder and price tag shouldn't be too high. Small sample and all but could be a good call. Does not appear to be a stellar defender. True. Scouts seem to think he's a fine defender with above average speed, but nothing special. (he's not a base stealer despite the speed) If his .296 MLB average had been legit then he's likely be starting somewhere, but even if we regress it, I'm thinking he's better than Refsnyder w/team control and a low salary to boot. I'm just vary wary of what happens to this team if they have a single injury to a non-pitcher. They're very flexible, but there's no depth past Arroyo.
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Post by rico6 on Apr 1, 2022 15:04:35 GMT -5
I noticed Chris' Twitter comment about Cora's statement that the 28 guys for the opening day roster are probably in camp. I believe Bloom is and has been looking but I think the Sox are going to go with JBJ and either Arroyo or JD in the OF if they need to. I believe they will give JBJ and the OF situation until mid-May to see where the team is and if they need changes. With the lack of RH hitting outfielders available via free agency or trade, I believe Bloom will wait. I kept thinking there would be some movement when the rosters trim down this weekend (like the Dodgers cutting Pillar but he may stay now that Pollock is gone) but the more I look at rosters for a spare part for a spare part trade, I don't see any leftovers better than what you have in camp and I don't see Bloom making a significant trade at this point for a solid established outfielder.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 1, 2022 15:08:39 GMT -5
I noticed Chris' Twitter comment about Cora's statement that the 28 guys for the opening day roster are probably in camp. I believe Bloom is and has been looking but I think the Sox are going to go with JBJ and either Arroyo or JD in the OF if they need to. I believe they will give JBJ and the OF situation until mid-May to see where the team is and if they need changes. With the lack of RH hitting outfielders available via free agency or trade, I believe Bloom will wait. I kept thinking there would be some movement when the rosters trim down this weekend (like the Dodgers cutting Pillar but he may stay now that Pollock is gone) but the more I look at rosters for a spare part for a spare part trade, I don't see any leftovers better than what you have in camp and I don't see Bloom making a significant trade at this point for a solid established outfielder. I agree with you. Maybe they upgrade from Refsnyder but I doubt we see some team releasing or dealing a valuable 4th OF who can play good defense and swing a solid RH bat. I agree with you that it's most likely that Arroyo soaks up the ABs against lefties. They'll probably play JD Martinez in LF at Fenway against southpaws and DH either X, Devers, or Story with Arroyo getting work at 2b or 3b. On the road, they likely play Arroyo in RF against a lefty.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 1, 2022 15:30:28 GMT -5
I wonder how much the White Sox want to keep AJ Pollock.
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Post by missourimike441 on Apr 1, 2022 17:03:33 GMT -5
I wonder how much the White Sox want to keep AJ Pollock. Well their bullpen took a hit today. First Kimbrell gone and also today they announced a good reliever Crotchett will probably require TJS. We could make a couple of our prospects available for Pollock.
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Post by nomar on Apr 1, 2022 18:47:59 GMT -5
I wonder how much the White Sox want to keep AJ Pollock. Well their bullpen took a hit today. First Kimbrell gone and also today they announced a good reliever Crotchett will probably require TJS. We could make a couple of our prospects available for Pollock. Luckily we have a ton of good bullpen arms to offer
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 2, 2022 13:16:57 GMT -5
J-Up DFAed by LAA.
34 yo RHH who can still hit LHP (.838 OPS in '21). Never a GG.
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Post by blizzards39 on Apr 2, 2022 14:32:37 GMT -5
J-Up DFAed by LAA. 34 yo RHH who can still hit LHP (.838 OPS in '21). Never a GG. I was thinking the same thing. Won’t hurt you with 28 man to start season.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 2, 2022 14:49:44 GMT -5
Don't need a bad defensive outfielder who is barely replacement level. Refsnyder is about that good already.
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Post by marrcus on Apr 2, 2022 14:53:07 GMT -5
How much will LAA be willing to eat?
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 2, 2022 14:58:58 GMT -5
How much will LAA be willing to eat? I'd say there's about a 1 percent chance he gets claimed so he'll probably be a free agent and be looking at a major league minimum deal since LAA has to pay him regardless.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 2, 2022 15:01:29 GMT -5
Don't need a bad defensive outfielder who is barely replacement level. Refsnyder is about that good already. I'm with you jimed I posted earlier that basically he's not any better than any current options they have plus to bring him on they'd need to clear a 40 man spot. I hope he catches on somewhere else and has a mini revitalizion but it shouldn't and won't be in Boston.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 3, 2022 1:12:44 GMT -5
Don't need a bad defensive outfielder who is barely replacement level. Refsnyder is about that good already. I'm with you jimed I posted earlier that basically he's not any better than any current options they have plus to bring him on they'd need to clear a 40 man spot. I hope he catches on somewhere else and has a mini revitalizion but it shouldn't and won't be in Boston. Might this be an opportunity to trade for a prospect worth $25m?
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Post by missourimike441 on Apr 3, 2022 8:52:29 GMT -5
An writer today posits Arroyo as being the 3rd outfielder. He has played five spring games in RF and started three of those. He's the right-handed bat and a "great athlete", according to outfield coach Venable. He could very well put Refsnyder on the bubble and lead to another infield utility guy for the final roster.
“He’s taken to it really well,” Red Sox bench coach and outfield instructor Will Venable said here Saturday. “His attitude about it has been great. When we first mentioned it to him, he jumped at the opportunity and he has come to me every day wanting to do early work. He’s really responded to his training. He looks great. He’s a great athlete. We talk about doing the same things that he does to get ready for the pitch in the outfield as he does in the infield. ... He’s an athlete and he’s going to figure it out.
“I think he looks great,” Venable added. “The way he’s moving, it’s been nice to see.”
Arroyo succeeding in the outfield would solve a big area of need for the Red Sox. Boston needs a right-handed hitting outfielder to platoon with left-handed hitting Jackie Bradley Jr.
Arroyo had a .356 on-base percentage, .529 slugging percentage and .885 OPS in 74 plate appearances against lefties last season.
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