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Post by bluechip on Apr 24, 2013 19:31:32 GMT -5
Expanded: Webster maybe, though you would think they would delay calling him up until Sunday. I do not see any pitchers or really any other players on the 40 man who make sense. Maybe there is any shoe to drop (DFA Aceves?)
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Post by amfox1 on Apr 24, 2013 19:37:45 GMT -5
An outfielder would be my guess. Maier would be the guy if he were on the 40-man. JBJ hasn't been down for 10 days so it can't be him. Wouldn't be surprised to see Morales go on the 60-day DL (or Aceves DFA'd) and Maier brought up.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 24, 2013 19:49:42 GMT -5
Sean McAdam ?@sean_McAdam 41s Alfredo Aceves optioned to Pawt. after game. #redsoxtalk Good move. You can't go running scared of his reaction ... it's the right call on the merits, if he goes all Satanic Eyes, that's his problem.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Apr 24, 2013 19:51:01 GMT -5
Maier may be a possibility, particularly given that it would not be much of a loss if he had to be DFAed once Victorino is able to play. I would expect that Carp would get more ABs while Maier would be used as a late inning defensive replacement.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 24, 2013 19:59:01 GMT -5
Pete Abraham ?@peteabe 1m Sources: #RedSox will call up Ryan Lavarnway on Thursday. Aceves' spot in rotation comes up Sunday. Lackey expected to return then.
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Post by mredsox89 on Apr 24, 2013 20:01:07 GMT -5
Hallelujah
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 24, 2013 20:08:52 GMT -5
Another series. Lets keep going one series at a time kid.
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Post by jmei on Apr 24, 2013 20:11:36 GMT -5
Interesting. Didn't think it'd be Maier since it makes no sense to call him up and then have to DFA him when he'd only play in three or four games max (until Lackey was activated off the DL). If Victorino is out more than a few days, they'd just DL him and call up Bradley, and if he's not, they can deal with a few games of Nava in RF, even if it hurts the defense. If they had a competent reliever or a CFer/RFer with options on the 40-man, they probably would have preferred that, but they didn't. Lavarnway gets the call-up by default, I guess, since none of the other plausible options (Holt, Wright, De La Rosa, Webster) make much sense. I doubt he gets much playing time though-- maybe a start at DH and a few pinch-hit ABs.
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Post by bluechip on Apr 24, 2013 20:13:24 GMT -5
Pete Abraham ?@peteabe 1m Sources: #RedSox will call up Ryan Lavarnway on Thursday. Aceves' spot in rotation comes up Sunday. Lackey expected to return then. Now that is interesting.
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Post by mredsox89 on Apr 24, 2013 20:17:22 GMT -5
Insurance bat, potentially back down with an OF up if Victorino goes to the DL?
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Apr 24, 2013 20:21:33 GMT -5
This move also shows Aceves that Farrell isn't going to put up with his BS like not covering 1st base, balking, throwing teammates under the bus,etc
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Post by mainesox on Apr 24, 2013 20:23:06 GMT -5
Sean McAdam ?@sean_McAdam 41s Alfredo Aceves optioned to Pawt. after game. #redsoxtalk That strikes me as a bad idea... Also, what does calling up Lavarnway get you? A third catcher/backup DH? Rather than send Aceves down to be a bad influence on the AAA team, why not just DFA him and add another pitcher to the 40 man, or maybe Brentz if Victorino is going to miss a few game?
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Post by soxfan06 on Apr 24, 2013 20:31:14 GMT -5
Do we really want Aceves in Pawtucket around Webster/Rubby/etc?
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Post by mredsox89 on Apr 24, 2013 20:42:55 GMT -5
I doubt he ever reports to the Pawsox. They've got 72 hours to try to trade him. If they can't get a buyer, I bet they DFA him.
Call Lavarnway up, and send him back down on Sunday for either Lackey or Webster
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Post by mattpicard on Apr 24, 2013 20:44:38 GMT -5
About time Aceves was moved off the team. I've been a pretty big supporter of him, and his antics are frustrating, but much easier to absorb if he's pitching well. Yet, for whatever reason, he has simply been an awful pitcher over his recent months. His versatility isn't that valuable if you can always count on him to give up a few runs in whatever role he's in. Anyone could do that. His BB% way up too (SSS, I know), but it's alarming. I guess for now he's going into the AAA rotation. Wouldn't surprise me if he's DFA'd if he has even some spotty starts down there. That all being said, I wouldn't worry about him causing issues for everyone else. They're a pretty tight knit group down there this year, and, well, if Aceves is destroying that, then he's worse than I thought.
Lavarnway coming up may seem like an odd move, but he's just a placeholder for a few days until we put Lackey back on the roster for his start this weekend. Maier would have made some sense since we could use some depth in RF with Victorino's back acting up, but I guess they didn't want to make a 40 man move to compensate considering the roster spot will only be needed for a few days. Who knows, I wouldn't mind seeing Lavarnway start over Salty one of the next few days.
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Post by soxfan06 on Apr 24, 2013 20:47:05 GMT -5
I wish this was a precursor to a Salty trade....cause he sucks.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 24, 2013 20:49:47 GMT -5
Nick Cafardo ?@nickcafardo 9m Aceves has 72 hours to report to Pawtucket. Indications are Red Sox will try to deal him.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Apr 24, 2013 20:50:24 GMT -5
The problem with that is Lavarnway probably isn't any better...
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Post by mattpicard on Apr 24, 2013 20:55:08 GMT -5
The problem with that is Lavarnway probably isn't any better... Offensively? He really struggled last season, but I'd take him any day over Salty at the dish. Hell, that will also force Farrell to keep the C in the 8th/9th spots only, which will benefit our lineup itself.
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Post by soxfan06 on Apr 24, 2013 20:56:46 GMT -5
The problem with that is Lavarnway probably isn't any better... The more David Ross catching our starters...the better. Honestly, with how good he is out there he could go hitless for the rest of the year and I would still be ecstatic.
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Post by threeifbaerga on Apr 24, 2013 21:13:44 GMT -5
Do we really want Aceves in Pawtucket around Webster/Rubby/etc? I'm sure they'll find him as big a jerk as everyone else seems to.
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Post by jmei on Apr 24, 2013 21:16:06 GMT -5
I think trying to option Aceves doesn't have much downside. Who knows? Maybe he ends up being a good soldier and accepting the assignment, and then the Red Sox have retained another level of emergency depth. Crazy people are anything but predictable. If he's upset, he'll probably never report to Pawtucket anyways, not to mention that the idea of a disgruntled player "infecting" prospects is pretty spurious anyways.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 24, 2013 21:23:19 GMT -5
Do we really want Aceves in Pawtucket around Webster/Rubby/etc? Are those guys so impressionable that they'll ... what exactly? Start not covering first base in an attempt to "be like Alfredo"? Start goading Canadians into punching them in the face? If anything, he's an object lesson in, "Don't be such an a****** that you trash your career."
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Post by jmei on Apr 24, 2013 21:24:36 GMT -5
Also: truly emphasizes how stupid it was to protect Hassan in Rule 5. Look at the gymnastics the front office has to resort to due to a lack of 40-man roster flexibility. Or they could have kept Fields or Olmsted instead, which makes DFAing Aceves easier and means they wouldn't have had to rely on Wright or Bard for emergency RP depth.
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Post by pkelly491 on Apr 24, 2013 22:13:01 GMT -5
Sox will try to trade Aceves, and that will fail. He will be DFA'd.
Lavarnway goes back to AAA when Lackey is ready on Sunday. If Victorino has to be DL'd I would assume Sox call up Maier/Brentz/Hazelbaker, and then the 40-man will be filled. If Victorino is not DL'd then the Sox either can keep the 40-man at 39, or send Bard back to the minors, and call up a guy like Jose de la Torre or Terry Doyle for bullpen depth.
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