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Post by redsoxfansince94 on Jan 2, 2024 15:28:17 GMT -5
Jacques can go.
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Post by pk on Jan 2, 2024 16:12:02 GMT -5
He came to the Royals in the Whit Merrifield trade but did not have a lot of success with them. The pitch modeling kinda liked him in the majors this year despite really bad results. Might be time to see what he looks like as a single inning reliever.
From Cotillo’s article on Masslive: Castillo was one of two players the Blue Jays sent to the Royals at the 2022 trade deadline in exchange for second baseman Whit Merrifield. He entered the 2023 season as the No. 18 prospect in Kansas City’s system, according to Baseball America. Here’s that site’s preseason scouting report: “ Castillo isn’t flashy. He’s more of a yeoman capable of fulfilling various roles on a pitching staff. His 93-mph fastball plays up because of how well he locates it, and induces weak contact with armside run. A key to his development in 2022 was switching from a two-seamer to a four-seamer--which helped the rest of his pitches play up thanks to the different shape. Castillo’s best secondary offering is an above-average, 87-88 mph changeup that he commands well. It is firm and lacks a lot of separation from the fastball, but the above-average vertical separation allows it to play solidly. Castillo’s best bat-missing pitch is an 83-mph slider with short shape that has paired well with his fastball and changeup. While there’s nothing plus in his repertoire, Castillo succeeds with his pitching smarts and by mixing and matching.” www.masslive.com/redsox/2024/01/red-sox-make-move-claiming-pitcher-from-royals-to-fill-40-man-roster.html?utm_source=pocket_reader
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Jan 2, 2024 16:42:55 GMT -5
That is a very good change up He has an option year left so I see him as Worcester rotation depth. Who knows though, maybe they go 1 inning reliever to see what he’s got maxed out Castillo’s option gives him more value than Llovera and Mata, because he can move back and forth between the MLB and AAA. With Slaten needing to stay in the MLB all year, I have to assume Llovera or/and Mata or both are traded for whatever the Red Sox can get for them (if anything). Three is too many bullpen arms that can not be options (even two is too many)…
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Post by tjb21 on Jan 2, 2024 21:54:05 GMT -5
Interesting player. Wonder if he’s DFA’d to sneak through waivers at some point before the season begins.
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Post by cdj on Jan 2, 2024 22:32:54 GMT -5
That is a very good change up He has an option year left so I see him as Worcester rotation depth. Who knows though, maybe they go 1 inning reliever to see what he’s got maxed out Castillo’s option gives him more value than Llovera and Mata, because he can move back and forth between the MLB and AAA. With Slaten needing to stay in the MLB all year, I have to assume Llovera or/and Mata or both are traded for whatever the Red Sox can get for them (if anything). Three is too many bullpen arms that can not be options (even two is too many)… Bailey has talked about liking Llovera but at the same time SF designated him for assignment while he was there so who is to say it can’t happen here I will say- Llovera definitely has mlb caliber stuff. Command just kills him
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jan 3, 2024 0:39:24 GMT -5
Hard to imagine that if it's a simple question of a DFA that it wouldn't be Llovera. His lack of options means that he may well be available later on waivers if someone claims him now. And I put no stock in Bailey giving him a verbal pat on the ass when asked about Llovera in his introductory presser. What do you expect him to say?? "Yeah, he's probably one of our first DFAs once free agency heats up."
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Post by dcb26 on Jan 3, 2024 8:26:50 GMT -5
I will be irrationally furious if they dfa Llovera without at least seeing him in Spring Training. His stuff is worth holding a 40-man spot for a while to see if they can improve his consistency. Given the volatility of relievers it's not hard to imagine him having a dominant year or two in his future.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jan 3, 2024 14:23:18 GMT -5
Well, we got our answer — bye, bye Llovera
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Post by julyanmorley on Jan 3, 2024 14:27:26 GMT -5
I like Llovera's chances of getting some major leaguers out over the next few years, but, with no options, this wasn't the right org for him with several big league caliber righty relievers already projected for Worcester.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jan 3, 2024 14:28:44 GMT -5
I like Llovera's chances of getting some major leaguers out over the next few years, but, with no options, this wasn't the right org for him with several big league caliber righty relievers already projected for Worcester. Precisely. Jacques gets another day to live on the simple fact he’s a lefty.
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Post by likethewhiskey on Jan 3, 2024 14:46:20 GMT -5
Well, we got our answer — bye, bye Llovera
Sox 40 man pitchers --> roller coasters --> "must be 6'0" to ride"
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 3, 2024 14:51:54 GMT -5
I like Llovera's chances of getting some major leaguers out over the next few years, but, with no options, this wasn't the right org for him with several big league caliber righty relievers already projected for Worcester. Precisely. Jacques gets another day to live on the simple fact he’s a lefty. I think it's more the option than anything.
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Post by cdj on Jan 3, 2024 14:53:55 GMT -5
Jacques also wasn’t that bad last year, he got murdered by god awful defense behind him
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Post by patford on Jan 3, 2024 15:08:16 GMT -5
Can someone explain why the Sox currently have six free agents on the 40 man roster? Is there some advantage to that? Does it mean anything? Is it just bookkeeping?
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jan 3, 2024 15:14:06 GMT -5
Can someone explain why the Sox currently have six free agents on the 40 man roster? Is there some advantage to that? Does it mean anything? Is it just bookkeeping? Hmm, I think you might be looking at an outdated roster? The one up on the Sox site has no free agents.
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Post by asm19 on Jan 3, 2024 15:47:27 GMT -5
Well, we got our answer — bye, bye Llovera Upon being introduced, “in addition to Sale, Bailey spoke highly of right-handed pitcher Mauricio Llovera, saying it he was “fortunate” to work with him in San Francisco. Bailey also joked about not having to face Kenley Jansen any longer and discussed Garrett Whitlock’s potential.” Someone hide Whit - they’re getting rid of everyone Andrew Bailey name-dropped!
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jan 3, 2024 16:08:14 GMT -5
The Llovera cut was the totally obvious move.
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Post by bosoxnation on Jan 3, 2024 17:05:11 GMT -5
Personally im excited about Max. I'm sure he will be fighting for that 5th spot or maybe an injury replacement. Still need a lefty in the rotation i would assume. Max being 24 still has time to figure it out. Im rooting for him.
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Post by patford on Jan 3, 2024 17:11:31 GMT -5
Can someone explain why the Sox currently have six free agents on the 40 man roster? Is there some advantage to that? Does it mean anything? Is it just bookkeeping? Hmm, I think you might be looking at an outdated roster? The one up on the Sox site has no free agents. I'm looking at this. www.soxprospects.com/40man.htmAnd you're right. The guys here just haven't updated it.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jan 3, 2024 17:23:44 GMT -5
The Llovera cut was the totally obvious move. Sure was. As Chris noted, Jacques has options left and I’m very sure they want to see Mata in spring training before cutting him. Going to be interesting who’s gonna get cut in the next squeeze.
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Post by foreverred9 on Jan 3, 2024 17:32:53 GMT -5
Hmm, I think you might be looking at an outdated roster? The one up on the Sox site has no free agents. I'm looking at this. www.soxprospects.com/40man.htmAnd you're right. The guys here just haven't updated it. That's just to signal that there are free agents still out there who were on our 40-man roster last year. They technically aren't "on" the 40-man since the counter to the left of their name isn't counting them.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 3, 2024 17:42:04 GMT -5
That's just to signal that there are free agents still out there who were on our 40-man roster last year. They technically aren't "on" the 40-man since the counter to the left of their name isn't counting them. This. We don't delete them from the page until they sign elsewhere. You'll note the FAs aren't numbered. It's mostly because (a) we like keeping guys in order on the roster of when they were added, and (b) especially in the past, it was a pain to delete and re-add guys.
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Post by dcb26 on Jan 3, 2024 20:31:45 GMT -5
I will be irrationally furious if they dfa Llovera without at least seeing him in Spring Training. His stuff is worth holding a 40-man spot for a while to see if they can improve his consistency. Given the volatility of relievers it's not hard to imagine him having a dominant year or two in his future. I am indeed now irrationally furious. I just think Llovera has an upside several other pitchers at the back of the 40-man don't. Sticking with the players with options is the logical move, but where the Red Sox are currently, gambling on upside would be a far better move imo.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jan 3, 2024 22:02:53 GMT -5
Well, we got our answer — bye, bye Llovera
Sox 40 man pitchers --> roller coasters --> "must be 6'0" to ride"
I guess that takes Imanaga out of the picture... (I sure hope it does -- I absolutely do not want a 5'10", 176 lb. starter with HR issues in a lesser league, on an expensive, long-term contract.)
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Post by notstarboard on Jan 3, 2024 23:17:24 GMT -5
Sox 40 man pitchers --> roller coasters --> "must be 6'0" to ride"
I guess that takes Imanaga out of the picture... (I sure hope it does -- I absolutely do not want a 5'10", 176 lb. starter with HR issues in a lesser league, on an expensive, long-term contract.) I'm not sure I'd say he has HR issues. He's allowed 1.0 HR/9 for his career in the NPB and his Steamer projection is for 1.2 HR/9 here. in 2023, 13/44 qualified MLB pitchers had worse than 1.2 HR/9 last year, and of course you need to be durable and at least moderately effective to be qualified in the first place. 13/44 guys were better than 1.0 HR/9 too, so we're talking like a couple HRs a year difference from him to the median qualified starter. 1.2 HR/9 is maybe a tad high for an SP who might get $100 million, but not outrageous given his decent stuff and control. Other pitchers in that ballpark are Bassitt, Castillo, and Berrios. Gilbert, Peralta, Kikuchi, and Nola were all worse.
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