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Post by soxfan06 on Jun 4, 2013 21:04:18 GMT -5
Drew is gonna earn a qualifying offer this summer. I can see it.
Slow start coming back from the injury, but he is a good hitter along with an extremely solid fielder.
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Post by mredsox89 on Jun 4, 2013 21:07:15 GMT -5
Mortensen can't even get through an inning up 17-3. Not a welcome sign for a guy who's already toeing the line of keeping his 25 man roster spot
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jun 4, 2013 21:12:14 GMT -5
Mortensen should go right now.
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Post by bjb406 on Jun 4, 2013 21:13:04 GMT -5
bastards, I thought we were gonna start making their late inning reliever get in the game and maybe deplete the bullpen a bit, but they just put in David Murphy.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 4, 2013 21:13:10 GMT -5
David Murphy pitching, love it.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Jun 4, 2013 21:14:26 GMT -5
Not that I wish further misery on the Rangers in what is a blowout, but I hope the Sox score at least one run in the 8th so that they score in every inning. I don't recall seeing that before, and I wonder how many times it's been done in Red Sox/major league history.
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Post by burythehammer on Jun 4, 2013 21:16:07 GMT -5
I don't know what's more ridiculous, Carp bitching in a 17-5 WIN or that they actually threw him out.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 4, 2013 21:16:56 GMT -5
Would've been nice to PH Gomes for Carp and have him hit a bomb off Murphy.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 4, 2013 21:17:58 GMT -5
Of course David Murphy throws the first scoreless inning for the Rangers, of course.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 4, 2013 21:18:05 GMT -5
Great. 17 runs tonight. Probably means Sox lose 3-2 and 2-1 the next two nights.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 4, 2013 21:25:07 GMT -5
Now, now - I'll take any win over Texas, which has owned us since 2011, at least. Let's not think about tomorrow til it comes. Unless we're thinking the Mortensen needs the phantom DL, or is getting very close to a DFA.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 21:26:17 GMT -5
Mortensen should go right now. I know there are bad pitchers in baseball and I should probably be more rational. But if you haven't been pitching well of late and you are brought into a 17-3 game......go out there and shove it. Don't walk guys. Sheesh.
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Post by jmei on Jun 4, 2013 21:34:57 GMT -5
Mortensen knows he's pitching for his life out there. Unfortunately, he hasn't had much success of late. His fastball is pretty bad and he basically pitches off his slider, which creates problems when opposing hitters aren't chasing his offspeed stuff.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 4, 2013 23:51:32 GMT -5
Mortensen knows he's pitching for his life out there. Unfortunately, he hasn't had much success of late. His fastball is pretty bad and he basically pitches off his slider, which creates problems when opposing hitters aren't chasing his offspeed stuff. At this point he is the mop up guy, unfortunately for him, with a currently healthy bullpen and the depth of this organization, he might not even be able to hold that job. Aceves and Wilson are both on the 40 man roster and are probably more effective. Yes Aceves is not really likable, but he reported to AAA has pitch good enough in Pawtucket. Then there is Stephen Wright and De La Torre. Then you have the guys not on the 40 man roster in Doyle, Rowland-Smith, Chris Hernandez, and Chris Martin.
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Post by mredsox89 on Jun 5, 2013 0:11:53 GMT -5
The thing with the bullpen is that you don't need a guy who sucks to be the mop up guy. It just ends up becoming a guy like that who fills that roll because most teams can't go 8-10 deep with quality arms.
The Sox have numerous guys, on and off of the 40 man roster that likely have much higher upsides/futures with the Sox than Mortensen
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 5, 2013 8:26:10 GMT -5
So do the Sox have something in Carp? Something being a major league player?
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 5, 2013 8:34:28 GMT -5
So do the Sox have something in Carp? Something being a major league player? Tough to say. Carp's strikeout rate is quite high, so it's possible that he'd be exposed in more playing time and that Farrell is just doing a good job picking his spots. He's at least a useful bench player, though. Cherington made the right choice in the Carp/Overbay/Sweeney competition.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Jun 5, 2013 8:41:13 GMT -5
So do the Sox have something in Carp? Something being a major league player? Tough to say. Carp's strikeout rate is quite high, so it's possible that he'd be exposed in more playing time and that Farrell is just doing a good job picking his spots. He's at least a useful bench player, though. Cherington made the right choice in the Carp/Overbay/Sweeney competition. Just for my clarification, in a decision like that, how much of the responsibility is Cherington's and how much is on Farrell and the coaching staff?
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Post by tjb21 on Jun 5, 2013 10:16:26 GMT -5
Drew is gonna earn a qualifying offer this summer. I can see it. Slow start coming back from the injury, but he is a good hitter along with an extremely solid fielder. I agree on the QO. Will be really interesting if he accepts it.
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Post by okin15 on Jun 5, 2013 11:55:09 GMT -5
From a roster-construction standpoint, dunno why you'd get rid of your mop-up guy to give valuable service time to two other mop-up guys with options, one of whom is staying stretched out, and the other who isn't much better than your current guy. I mean, his job is to pitch in 17-3 games, and in 3-17 games. There's no value there.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 5, 2013 12:16:53 GMT -5
Drew is gonna earn a qualifying offer this summer. I can see it. Slow start coming back from the injury, but he is a good hitter along with an extremely solid fielder. I agree on the QO. Will be really interesting if he accepts it. I don't think it's likely he would. If he gets anywhere near his past batting numbers, he'll get better offers. A decent hitting ss with some pop and solid defensive chops is a fairly valuable commodity. Look around at the current situation. Asdrubal Cabrera is on the DL, Jeter still isn't back, Reyes got hurt again... this isn't an easy position to fill
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 5, 2013 12:24:21 GMT -5
I agree on the QO. Will be really interesting if he accepts it. I don't think it's likely he would. If he gets anywhere near his past batting numbers, he'll get better offers. A decent hitting ss with some pop and solid defensive chops is a fairly valuable commodity. Look around at the current situation. Asdrubal Cabrera is on the DL, Jeter still isn't back, Reyes got hurt again... this isn't an easy position to fill I can't see him accepting it, unless he struggles the rest of the season, which seems unlikely. It seemed like the biggest thing to prove coming into this season for Drew was that he was completely over the devestating ankle injury, and he's certainly done that. With his defense being extremely consistent with solid enough range, and a batting eye that puts most other SS's to shame (along with some pop in his bat), he'll definitely have some impressive offers on the table this offseason.
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Post by okin15 on Jun 5, 2013 14:00:58 GMT -5
Even less likely to accept it if the Sox tell him he'd be a backup. Then he'd end up a year older with no recent stats.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 5, 2013 14:02:02 GMT -5
I think with borderline cases like Drew's may be, unless there is some agreement beforehand to the contrary (which I am guessing usually happens), you have to operate as if the player will accept the offer.
That said, if Drew continues on roughly the same track for the rest of the year, what team offers him multiple years at near enough to the qualifying offer's AAV to lure him away? (i.e. if the qualifying offer is $13M, then 2 years at $10M a year prob gets it done; but does 2 years at $8M per year or would he rather roll the dice again on the 1 yr?)
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jun 5, 2013 15:22:04 GMT -5
Honestly, if Drew continues to be a .230/.330/.400 hitter with decent defense at shortstop, having him accept the qualifying offer wouldn't be the end of the world. That's a damn good player in today's game.
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