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Post by rookie13 on Dec 4, 2016 19:14:12 GMT -5
Holliday to the Yankees, 1 year/13M.
I'm getting very worried that DD is waiting for Encarnacion's price to drop. I don't see how the Sox could pass on Holliday, or on Beltran for 1/16M.
I really hope at this point he plans to use the DH slot to rest players, as has been suggested on this forum before.
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 4, 2016 18:41:26 GMT -5
The dumbest thing one can do is judge a player's defensive skills by a highlight reel (or play) - remember Gary Matthews, Jr.? I've seen no evidence that Benintendi can play CF in the majors. He was minus in LF last year (small sample). His throwing was awful, both weak and misdirected; and it didn't take long for word to get around, you even had Cleveland taking advantage of his arm with Roberto Perez. Roberto Perez. If the Red Sox move Bradley (something I would actively pursue), Betts is your CF; if you look at the Statcast data over the last two years, there's a lot of evidence that he's a better OF than Bradley already The dumbest thing you can do is use the publically available defensive stats when there is only a tiny sample size. Absolutely no stock should be put into Benintendi's MLB defensive stats. Thank you for saying this. I had just asked about this yesterday, and then watched quite a bit of film on Benintendi to see how he plays in center. His SSS in LF holds no weight, in my opinion. Basically all his scouting reports will say he's at least an average CF, and probably an above average one. What player has come to Boston and immediately put up plus defensive statistics while playing in front of the green monster? I'd be willing to bet that almost no one has. Who cares if DRS and UZR had him at negative value? He didn't even play two full months. If he had been promoted and put up a +5 would we be calling him the next JBJ in terms of defensive ability? I doubt it. His arm is about a 50, which is still perfectly fine given his range and instincts in the field. Even if he were to play a below average CF, his offense would more than make up for any lost value. Edit: spelling mistakes and context clarity.
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 4, 2016 1:01:57 GMT -5
I'm curious, how do you guys see Benintendi projecting as a CF? Obviously he's more than capable, as he played center for most of his minor league career. But how is his value affected by playing a full season in the majors at CF?
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 3, 2016 23:49:50 GMT -5
I still can't see the Sox trading for Sale. If they had been willing to give up JBJ at the trade deadline he would probably be in a Boston uniform. That's the report that came out, but Chicago said no deal without JBJ. I personally could live with a JBJ+ package for Sale, but it's the other pieces that I wouldn't be comfortable including. I'm assuming Chicago's asking price right now would be something like JBJ, Benintendi/Moncada, Rodriguez, Kopech, and maybe Vazquez/Swihart. If the asking price lowered to JBJ, Rodriguez, and Kopech/Devers, I'd take that deal. But anything more seems unnecessary to a team that has the reigning CY Young Winner and David Price at the front of the rotation. Well replacing Bradley at deadline is very hard, a lot easier in offseason. The White Sox aren't getting what you think, no way they get Bradley, Benintendi/Moncada, ERod, Kopech and Vaz or Swihart. You can take Bradley out and the other players are what it would take. Bradley value has to like 2 top 100 prospects and another piece. So if White Sox want Bradley they are going to get a lot less prospects. If those are there demands Sale is not getting traded. If I'm Dave and you include Bradley, Benintendi and Moncada have to be off limits. I wouldn't do Bradley, ERod and Kopech/Devers. I don't think we need Sale and don't want to trade Bradley, but if Bradley is the main piece I might be able to get behind it. Bradley , Clay, and 2-3 of the Doubon/ Travis type prospects. They can hope Clay pitches well and they can flip him at deadline for a good return. They get a big package of players, but none of our elite guys. In my opinion you can get a young stud like Bradley, making less than Sale, with an extra year of team control and expect elite prospects also. It's one or the other. You get the Young stud player or a couple of elite prospects. Now this is a proposal I can get behind. My theoretical package isn't what I think it would take, it's what I think Chicago will ask for. I based that package on the report that they wanted the Miller deal, plus two. Obviously that's an absurd asking price, especially since Stewart isn't a GM anymore. I don't think it would take as much as people seem to think, but no matter what happens, I really think someone will end up massively overpaying for Sale. I just hope it's not the Red Sox. And forgetting about all of that, this team doesn't *need* Sale. He would be a luxury.
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 3, 2016 21:46:58 GMT -5
Very rarely does one of the top 5 pitchers in all of baseball come in the market. We have to expect it is going to cost an arm and a leg for him. I mean dombrowski paid a fortune for a closer. What is one the top 5 starters in baseball worth? Ps: dombrowski needs to temper desire for sale against the knowledge that betts, bogey, benintendi, rodriguez, Pedroia, Hanley, kopech, and groome are untouchable. Mookie pretty much still is untouchable. He's been worth more in 2 seasons in terms of WAR then Sale has been in the last 3 seasons. I'd consider both Mookie and Xander to be completely off limits. Other than that, who knows what DD would do. I could see him trading just about anyone, in the right deal, except for those two.
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 3, 2016 21:44:59 GMT -5
I still can't see the Sox trading for Sale. If they had been willing to give up JBJ at the trade deadline he would probably be in a Boston uniform. That's the report that came out, but Chicago said no deal without JBJ.
I personally could live with a JBJ+ package for Sale, but it's the other pieces that I wouldn't be comfortable including. I'm assuming Chicago's asking price right now would be something like JBJ, Benintendi/Moncada, Rodriguez, Kopech, and maybe Vazquez/Swihart.
If the asking price lowered to JBJ, Rodriguez, and Kopech/Devers, I'd take that deal. But anything more seems unnecessary to a team that has the reigning CY Young Winner and David Price at the front of the rotation.
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 2, 2016 20:41:09 GMT -5
Old friend Ruby de la Rosa has been non-tendered. Wish the Sox could pick him up and see if he can be a decent reliever. I know he was hitting 100 mph in the brief stints he was in the bullpen a few years ago with the Sox. He could be an interesting piece to compete for a bullpen spot. Tyson Ross was also non-tendered. I think he'd be a great pickup for just about any team in the league. I see a bidding war happening for Ross. It'll be interesting to see how much he gets from a team. If the Sox were to trade Buchholz I would love to see Ross in a Sox uniform.
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 2, 2016 0:41:13 GMT -5
I think Quintana is great, but if you're going to trade for him wouldn't it make more sense to give up another prospect to get Sale instead? Quintana has an additional year of control, but if the cost is almost as steep as Sale would be, I'd rather just trade for him, albeit at a steeper cost.
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 1, 2016 22:28:21 GMT -5
Jung Ho Kang has been arrested in South Korea for leaving the scene of a DUI accident. Initial reports are that no one was injured. Apparently his passenger tried to take the blame to get him out of trouble. He had a BAC of .084, just above the leagl limit here but thats .034 more than the SK limit.
Details are still coming in, but as a young man who is just now able to drink legally, I have no sympathy for anyone who drives under the influence. You're not only endangering yourself and your passengers, but everyone else who is on the road.
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 1, 2016 21:53:21 GMT -5
Jeff Passan Verified account @jeffpassan Int’l bonus $ depends strictly on market size. Teams can trade every $ of their int’l pool. Teams can trade for up to 75% of theirs. www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/mlb-mlbpa-agree-to-new-collective-bargaining-agreement.htmlThere are three tiers in spending allotment, per Jon Heyman of Fan Rag (via Twitter). Large-revenue clubs will have $4.75MM to spend, mid-tier teams can go up to $5.25MM, and the smallest organizations can tap $5.75MM. It's pretty ridiculous that large market teams get less $ for international signings. It seems like small market teams are the big winners in every aspect. And "market" is a relative term here. Miami is definitely not a small market. Neither are Houston, San Diego, Tampa, and several others that claim "small market" status. They are just cheap owner/lower payroll teams. They're all billionaires. Some just aren't in it to win. This is the one subject I've never understood in MLB. I get that some teams have more money than other teams, but basically every "small market" team is owned by a billionaire(s) who seem to not want to spend the extra money to win. It makes me think of the Blue Jays last offseason when they made it seem like they couldn't afford to bring back David Price. Rogers Communication is worth billions, and yet they give off the vibe that they can't afford a guy like him. Off topic but I wish baseball had more owners like Mark Cuban. He was willing to pay more for the Cubs than anyone, but MLB wouldn't allow him to buy the team because he's too outspoken. Guys like him just want to see their team win, and they're willing to do anything to make it happen. Baseball needs more owners who don't put off the facade of "We have money, just not enough money to pay an elite player in free agency."
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 1, 2016 21:42:06 GMT -5
“@jeffpassan: Source: New CBA includes ”death penalty“ for teams caught cheating internationally. MLB can penalize up to 50% of int’l pool $ through 2021.” At this point I'm starting to think that an international draft would have been the better option here. I understand their logic in wanting to penalize teams for using "loopholes" but to potentially lose half your pool for several years? That's pretty harsh and I can't see any team trying to push the rulebook now.
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 1, 2016 20:53:22 GMT -5
The Braves have acquired Jaime Garcia from the Cardinals for IF Luke Dykstra and RHPs John Gant and Chris Ellis. Seems like a bit much to give up for Garcia, who is coming off a down year and is a FA after the season. He will earn 12 Million this year. To me, one year of Jaime Garcia at 12 mill, seems comparable in value to Buchholz. I'd probably take this return for Buch at this point although admittedly I don't know a ton about these "prospects." It's certainly an intriguing package for a player of Garcia's caliber. If this is what he's worth, Buchholz should be able to get us at least that much value.
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 1, 2016 18:42:54 GMT -5
The Braves have acquired Jaime Garcia from the Cardinals for IF Luke Dykstra and RHPs John Gant and Chris Ellis.
Seems like a bit much to give up for Garcia, who is coming off a down year and is a FA after the season. He will earn 12 Million this year.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 30, 2016 23:18:22 GMT -5
"In another wrinkle, via Sherman (on Twitter), the league will ban incoming MLB players from using smokeless tobacco, with existing players grandfathered in."
I get why some people would want this, but why is this now an actual rule? Why should we care if a player chooses to use chew/dip?
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 30, 2016 22:09:24 GMT -5
So the QO will continue to exist, but with changes as to what draft pick(s) you lose? Over luxury tax: Second and fifth round pick. Under: Third round pick
I can live with that. Especially with the threshold set to rise gradually over the next 5 years by 21 Million.
EDIT: I originally saw the eventual threshold being 215, as opposed to the 210 million that it will be.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 30, 2016 17:37:02 GMT -5
I'm starting to like the idea of signing Bautista if we could get him for two years. He's still a well above average hitter, and is entirely capable of still play the outfield. He may not be a great defender, but he isn't an atrocity. I don't know what his market is/will be, but if he settled for two years to go to the Sox, what do you guys think it would be for? Maybe 18-19MM per year? i think based on the Cespedes deal that Bautista gets at least 4 years at $20M a year minimum, and maybe an option with buy-out for a 5th, but that's just me reading the market based on a small sample. I haven't heard much about interest in him, and that's why I'm thinking he *might* be available for two years. Most predictions for him were at 3 years and anywhere from 50-65 million. Cespedes was 5-6 years and ended up at 4/110. I don't think it's likely he'd sign for two, and I definitely downplayed what his AAV would be, but I'm just spit balling here. I get that cespedes just got the highest AAV of any outfielder ever, but it was still only 4 years. So I guess my thinking that Bautista could be had for 2 years is me thinking the Sox would pay him more per year. 46 million for two years. 25 in year one, 21 in year two. If he has a strong season, which I think he will, he's a strong trade chip if Devers takes the next step forward.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 30, 2016 17:27:10 GMT -5
I haven't read this entire thread so I don't know if it's been discussed, but if Pablo goes to ST out of shape and doesn't play well, does anyone think DD would just cut him? At what point do you decide a player is bringing down the team so much that you're better off eating 60MM (may be wrong on that number) than to just let him ride the bench?
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 30, 2016 17:18:32 GMT -5
I'm starting to like the idea of signing Bautista if we could get him for two years. He's still a well above average hitter, and is entirely capable of still play the outfield. He may not be a great defender, but he isn't an atrocity.
I don't know what his market is/will be, but if he settled for two years to go to the Sox, what do you guys think it would be for? Maybe 18-19MM per year?
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 30, 2016 9:17:16 GMT -5
I think the logic for a Howard signing was that he's a LHH 1B who can still somehow run into 20 home runs. Beyond that, he has absolutely no value. It's like you (or maybe someone else?) said, he has a negative war for the decade, and hasn't been worth more than .4 war since 2011.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 29, 2016 22:25:51 GMT -5
Adding an extra roster spot doesn't really jibe with the "the game is too long and there are too many pitching changes" mentality, but okay. The biggest "problem" in baseball (which is pretty damn perfect, all things considered) is the September roster thing. Basically, I think a team should be able to carry 40 players but "dress" (to put it in hockey terms) only 26, and to make any of the previous three starters inactive you need to put them on the disabled list. I'm in favor expansion right now. There are several markets that could support a team, and I really don't care for the uneven leagues. Also, the talent level in the major leagues right now is absurd. Just watching Triple-A baseball as much as I do, the quality of play is very, very high. There are a lot of reasons for this - influx of talent from Asia and Venezuela, rebounding of Puerto Rico in recent years being chief among them. I forgot to comment on the last part of this comment. Expansion in baseball is coming, according to Manfred's comments in the past. Right now they're focused on getting Oakland and Tampa Bay new stadiums before they look into expansion though. This is priority number one for him. As someone who lives not too far from Tampa, I would love nothing more than for the Rays to relocate. I won't even go to Tropicana anymore. It's in an absolutely horrible locaction, and traffic/parking is horrendous. I haven't seen the Sox in person in two years solely because of the atrocity that Tropicana Field is. I think getting them and the A's new stadiums/locations should be an immediate priority moving forward.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 29, 2016 22:12:00 GMT -5
I may be in the minority, but I think Comeback Player should be won by a player who missed a lot of time due to an injury, as opposed to a player (like Porcello,) who was just a terrible player the season before. I think of Mariano Rivera winning it. He missed basically the whole season and then killed it the following year in his final campaign.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 29, 2016 16:57:13 GMT -5
Cespedes back to the Mets, 4 years 110MM. I didn't care for him in his half season with the Sox, but I'm very happy to hear he's staying in New York. Now let's hope they maximize his value by putting him in LF instead of center.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 29, 2016 12:29:13 GMT -5
I hadn't thought of Howard being an option. Could probably get him on a cheap 1 year deal, and if he totally bombs we could just cut him. Then Again, he's been worth -2.2 war over the past 5 seasons, so I'm very skeptical he could provide any value at all.
Also, am I the only one who totally forgot that Castillo is a Red Sox?
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 28, 2016 17:50:21 GMT -5
If there seems to be consensus to expand to 26 players then why not just make the DH universal in both leagues? Or even make it "optional" on a game-to-game basis (team elects before the game to either have the pitcher hit or use a DH), giving the NL their illusion of continuing to play "pure baseball" whenever they want? I could be wrong but isn't that what the rule already is for the AL? I don't have a reference for this, or even a year, but I remember watching a Rays game once where Maddon messed up his line up card, specifically on Longoria and Zobrist both being listed at 3B, and after the game it was reported that the Rays should have been ineligible to use a DH for the game. Again I could be, and probably am, wrong. But I'm pretty sure you don't *have* to use a DH. I was wrong, sort of. www.tbo.com/sports/rays/lineup-mishap-sees-rays-forfeit-dh-pitcher-at-bat-88369The pitcher did in fact have to hit because he listed Longo and Zobrist at 3B. Andy Sonnanstine (haven't heard that name in a long time,) had to bat.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 28, 2016 17:42:01 GMT -5
If there seems to be consensus to expand to 26 players then why not just make the DH universal in both leagues? Or even make it "optional" on a game-to-game basis (team elects before the game to either have the pitcher hit or use a DH), giving the NL their illusion of continuing to play "pure baseball" whenever they want? I could be wrong but isn't that what the rule already is for the AL? I don't have a reference for this, or even a year, but I remember watching a Rays game once where Maddon messed up his line up card, specifically on Longoria and Zobrist both being listed at 3B, and after the game it was reported that the Rays should have been ineligible to use a DH for the game. Again I could be, and probably am, wrong. But I'm pretty sure you don't *have* to use a DH.
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