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Post by rookie13 on Nov 27, 2016 21:47:02 GMT -5
The Dodgers will be fine. They're definitely set up to comply with MLB's debt rules, and could still re-sign both Turner and Jansen if they wanted to. I think the original article written about this by Bill Shaikin is kind of misleading.
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Chris Sale
Nov 26, 2016 20:04:59 GMT -5
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 26, 2016 20:04:59 GMT -5
What Price did in April has no bearing on his overall year. Trying to use ERA to make your point is so 20 years ago. The fact is he ranked 41st in bwars, in no way can you even come close to saying he was a #4 last year. Can you name 90 starters that were better??? Sure he had a disappointing year, but by saying he's was a #4 your bashing him. According to bwars he was a number 2 starter last year. If you wanted to call him a 2/3 I wouldn't argue that, but calling him a #4 is bashing him. Hoping he can maybe become a #2 next year is bashing him, when the numbers show he was a #2 last year in what was his worst year. Last year's ranking of Sox pitchers in bwars 12. Porcello, 36. Pomeranz, 41 Price, and 79. Wright. Then you have ERods upside if he's healthy and not tipping pitches. We do have some injury concerns, but most teams do when it comes to pitchers. We also have upside that very few teams have. ERA isn't 20 years ago. It's the baseline stat to look at starting pitching. Price gave up a lot of contact and gave a lot of runs last year and the Sox had a great defense last year. So you could make a case he was actually lucky to have a ERA that low. When you consider all that, to me he was a 3 or 4 with a ton of innings (which raises his value). That's what he was to me. Of course where he should be slotted in a rotation is just talk about nothing really. Price at worst will be pitching game 2 of the season next year. Hopefully he performs a lot better to start the year next time. The Sox aren't paying him to be even be a number 2/3 starter like you think he was last year. He needs to pitch like one of the best pitchers in the league if the Sox even have a chance next year. His clunkers (like in the playoffs) gives the Sox very little chance to go very far into September and October. He's got to be better. This is all I'll say about that. I don't think Price's performance will be the main factor in the Sox making the playoffs. Even in a down year, his era- was 90 and fip- was 86. Neither of those numbers are what we'd expect from price, but they're still better than league average. IMO, Price was at worst a #3 starter this year, and he was excellent in july/august before slowing down a bit in September. I expect a rebound from him and I really don't think the Sox have anything to worry about when it comes to the rotation. They have more pressing needs. Edit: typo.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 26, 2016 18:30:25 GMT -5
In fWAR the top 5 Red Sox pitchers last year were 6, 13, 43, 48, 97 out of 137 pitchers with 100+ innings. So you can argue the Red Sox have two #1s, two #2s and a #4. Chris Sale is great, but this is already one of the best rotations in baseball with runs off upside. I wish I could like this comment twice. Price and Porcello will be a very strong 1/2 combo. Pomeranz pitched well in August until the innings got to him, and I expect him to be a solid #3 next year. Then we have Rodriguez and Wright filling it out with Buchholz in reserve, so I don't see why this team needs Sale. Sure, he'd help. But is it worth trading (probably) JBJ and prospects? Not a chance.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 25, 2016 20:24:57 GMT -5
Well I wasn't a supporter of getting rid of Hanley;however, I didn't like the Sandoval signing from the minute it happened. That's just my opinion and I could be wrong, and he could still be a positive contribution to this team. I personally don't think he will be, and I think the Sox are better off without him. I hope he proves me wrong, as I see no chance he isn't playing for the Sox next year.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 25, 2016 19:55:45 GMT -5
Personally I would love just about any trade that gets Pablo off this team. Include salary, include a decent prospect, I don't care. The Sox have plenty of options, and honestly, for most of this last season I forgot Pablo was even on the roster.
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Chris Sale
Nov 24, 2016 20:32:56 GMT -5
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 24, 2016 20:32:56 GMT -5
I don't see a Sale trade happening with the Dodgers, and I also don't see them trading for Greinke unless the Dbacks are willing to eat a ton of salary.
I can't imagine the White Sox trading sale unless they get a huge package that's headlined by a player who is, not only performing well at the ML level, but who has at least 3-4 years of control left.
They wanted a package from the Red Sox that started with JBJ, which I wouldn't be *too* upset with, but how in the world do the Dodgers get him without including someone like Urias or Peterson?
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 24, 2016 2:29:23 GMT -5
Not really sure I like the trade in favor of either team, but I love seeing teams get creative like this to fill their needs.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 21, 2016 17:21:51 GMT -5
Reading that made me sick. Very disturbing to hear about.
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Freeman
Nov 21, 2016 17:13:57 GMT -5
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 21, 2016 17:13:57 GMT -5
Bradley for Freeman straight up .... who says no? Braves. I'm not good at gauging value and trying to come up with a fair trade package, but I'd guess it would have to be Bradley, Kopech/Devers, and one or two other guys. That's precisely why I don't see a deal happening. He'd be too expensive (in terms of prospects, his contract is more than reasonable.) and the Braves don't *need* to trade him. He's got 5 years left and just turned 27 in September, so the Braves would have to be blown away to go through with a trade.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 17, 2016 14:58:05 GMT -5
Verlander wasn't even wronged here. Park adjusted factors favor Kluber if anyone else than Porcello. Media really pushing the Verlander was robbed narrative. No they aren't. They're pushing the "his girlfriend's response was funny" narrative. Update: So one of the Tampa writers (Chastain) filled out his ballot with over a week to go in the season, ignoring Verlander's last two starts. How is that okay? Whatever you think of the eventual result, that is totally unacceptable. I don't understand why it's even an option to send your ballot in before the season is over. They should have an idea of who they're voting for, but not make a final decision until all is said and done. Fill out and submit your ballot the day after the regular season ends.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 16, 2016 12:32:52 GMT -5
Pretty sure they haven't tendered him a contract yet, it was just DD saying they would. I could easily see him changing his mind if a better option is available by December.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 16, 2016 8:15:12 GMT -5
The New Orleans Zephyrs are now the New Orleans Baby Cakes? For real? Are we absolutely sure we're not characters in a Pynchon novel at this point? Wow. The first few new team names were funny, but this is ridiculous. EDIT: "Also, the Staten Island Yankees are currently in the process of re-branding as well. Their new nickname is up for fan voting. Here are the five nickname finalists: Bridge Trolls, Heroes, Killer Bees, Pizza Rats, and Rock Pigeons."
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 14, 2016 16:38:22 GMT -5
Hellickson has accepted Philly's QO, stating that he was going to reject it until Boras told him multiple teams were reluctant to part with a draft pick for him. I still think he could have got 3-4 years around 15MM per, especially with how weak the pitching market is.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 14, 2016 10:48:40 GMT -5
Agreed. And of that group, Groome is the one I'd part with, only because he's furthest away. Groome can't be traded, less than a year and MLB warned about including such players as PTBNL. Didn't they change that rule after the Trea Turner fiasco? Pretty sure new draftees are able to be traded once the post season ends.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 11, 2016 10:11:54 GMT -5
Not only that, but the tweet says they have "no intention." Which easily translates to, "We don't want to trade him, but we will if the offer is good enough."
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Freeman
Nov 10, 2016 21:23:22 GMT -5
Post by rookie13 on Nov 10, 2016 21:23:22 GMT -5
I was the first person to shoot this idea down, but since a few people are still trying to discuss Votto, I thought Freeman would be a good name to bring up again. While he's obviously not as good a hitter as Votto, he's still elite and is an excellent defender as well. He's 6 years younger, has 2 years and 76 Mil less on his contract, and doesn't have a no trade clause. I still think the cost of acquisition would probably be too high, but if we're going to discuss trading for an elite LHH 1B, this should be the guy we're talking about.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 10, 2016 13:35:47 GMT -5
He'd be a good addition, but you're right. They'd have to be pretty high on one of those guys for a deal to work, and I don't see them taking a deal without a "notable" prospect involved. I still think DDo would think about a move like this, if he's still available after the new CBA.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 10, 2016 13:16:56 GMT -5
The White Sox are taking calls on Todd Frazier. I can't imagine the price being too high since he's a FA after the season, and he can play 1B as well. Not sure what the Red Sox would have to give up, but it's maybe something to think about.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 9, 2016 9:53:02 GMT -5
Will the white sox make sale available this winter? Clearly we have the pieces to make this happen, I think they would be smart to make him available, but I doubt DDo will bite. Only way to get him is to give them JBJ, and seeing as how the rotation is already pretty good, I'd rather have the elite center fielder who's controllable for 4 more years.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 8, 2016 11:01:53 GMT -5
Trout/Betts: There's absolutely no way to argue that Trout isn't the best player in the league, but I see voters taking Mookie since the Sox won their division.
Bryant: The best NL player on the best NL team, this one probably won't even be close. As if his offense isn't enough, he played at least 50 innings at 4 different positions, and was good at all of them. Should be the first player since Pedroia to win RoY and MVP in back to back years.
Kluber/Porcello: This is the closest race, in my opinion. Most of their stats are so close that I think Porcello will got the nod for his 22 wins. I'd personally give it to Kluber who I think was just *slightly* better.
Scherzer: Higher ERA than Lester and Hendricks, but with the league lead in wins, innings, K's, K/BB, and WHIP, I see this as an easy win for Scherzer.
Sanchez: SSS or not, he was extremely impressive for a catcher and I really wish he played for anyone but the Yankess.
Seager: This is the slam dunk of slam dunks, it'll be unanimous and he would be my second choice for MVP.
Banister/Francona: I think Tito wins this since the Indians had the best record in the league and dealt with several significant injuries. I would vote for Banister because the Rangers had just as many and massively overperformed this year, and I think he was the main reason for that.
Roberts/Maddon: I see this as Maddon's to lose. He's a lovable manager and his team led baseball in wins, so I see the voters picking him. I'd go with Roberts seeing as how he dealt with a ton of injuries for basically the whole year, and the Dodgers still won their division. I thought he held the team together great.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 7, 2016 21:53:13 GMT -5
Not sure if it's been discussed yet, but what does everyone think of Verlander? I could see a scenario where JD gets packaged with him, if the price is right for Detroit. I don't like Verlander's contract but I can't help but dream over a rotation of (in whichever order) Porcello, Price, Verlander, Rodriguez, Pomeranz/Wright/Buchholz.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 7, 2016 21:26:08 GMT -5
He was probably my favorite non-sox player from 08-2013, but he's a shell of his old self at this point and has been terrible against LHP the last 3 years, while only being a little better than league average against RHP. Don't see where he fits on the Sox next year. The contracts are close but I don't see either team being keen on a deal like this.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 7, 2016 21:06:48 GMT -5
I think Martinez could be a good fit, but as our DH. He hit lefties well last year, while also demolishing righties. I would be fine with Hanley staying at first base for another season since he wasn't atrocious at it this year. Not sure what the cost for Martinez would be but I can't see it being too outrageous for DDo's liking.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 7, 2016 17:12:09 GMT -5
Getting tied into a 5/$110M deal or thereabouts for Encarnacion will just be one of the stupidest, most short-sighted moves they could make. If anything, they can sign a huge bullpen arm for roughly half of that, over 4 years, and still have money to spend to get a very good one-year DH option like Beltran. With Benintendi around for the full year, the offense probably wouldn't lose a beat in that scenario, and the bullpen would be much better. Not to mention, an elite bullpen arm has more value in trade than a bloated Encarnacion contract, and would be much more readily moved at just about any point. And, that elite 'pen arm is probably more valuable in the playoffs too, which the Sox will almost assuredly make. The difference in production between Beltran and Encarnacion is absolutely NOT worth nearly $100M over four years, especially when they still probably have the league's best offense anyway. Totally agree with this. I don't think the Sox will pony up the money to get a Chapman/Jansen, but I agree that signing EE would be an extremely short sighted move. Even without Papi, they still have one of the best offenses in the league, and it will only get better with Beni for the full year and Moncada at some point. Signing EE isn't worth it for the Sox.
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Post by rookie13 on Nov 7, 2016 10:31:05 GMT -5
They *can* give him a QO, but he'd surely accept it. No chance they offer as they didn't want to pay him 7.2 million less for his option. You'd think they would keep him for insurance in case Montgomery falters, or at least try to trade him.
Edit: Quote from Theo “The intent was never to exercise the option and then trade Jason, so we will not consider that path,” said Epstein. “Instead, Jason will have the opportunity to enter free agency coming off an outstanding season and the ability to choose his next club.”
Seems like they don't believe he'll be as good or better than Montgomery could be.
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