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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 6, 2020 13:34:18 GMT -5
I love my job. If a new company wants to offer me 25% more than what I'm making, I'm inclined to take it. Why isn't he entitled to maximize his value despite liking his employer? Why should he be penalized for liking where he works? I didn’t say he should be penalized. I’m saying the world doesn’t revolve around him and both parties have to analyze the risk and make a decision; which they did. The baseball world will 100% revolve around him next offseason when he's far and away the #1 free agent. Only other big names are Realmuto, Springer, Bauer, Semien, all solid B+ to A- players with flaws.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 6, 2020 12:07:00 GMT -5
I'm defending from people talking about a process they know nothing about. You have no idea what specific role Henry played in any of these contracts
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 6, 2020 11:55:36 GMT -5
Try 0.45%. $30M of $6.6B is 0.45%. Yes, the CEO is not spending a lot of time worrying about 0.45% of the budget
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 6, 2020 11:52:55 GMT -5
I think you're underestimating the Sox interest to sign Mookie in Free Agency. With the Red Sox getting under the tax this year, they absolutely have the ability to spend more on Mookie. They couldn't do that without getting under this season, so knowing he was always going to FA, they traded him, added future pieces, and got under the tax to overspend and sign a big name FA if they want. Maybe it won't work out that way, but they absolutely can if they want to
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 6, 2020 11:08:43 GMT -5
You definitely sign off on giving Chris Sale and Nathan Eovaldi $225 million. Ok, walk me through that sign off. Who's in the room? Is he just handed a contract to read? Is someone convincing him this is a good idea? Or is Henry just in his office with a bunch of spreadsheets trying to figure out the future of the club? Because I'm guessing it's more like, Dombrowski says I want to sign Sale, Henry says "ok, make sure we can stay under the cap in 2020" and then Dombroski signs a contract. No CEO of a company is involved in every deal. Maybe the Sale contract, but in the grand scheme of a $6.6 BILLION dollar organization (Red Sox plus all of Henry's other holdings), a $30M/year contract is not the most important decision Henry would be thinking about.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 6, 2020 11:02:51 GMT -5
If Mookie signs with the Dodgers before hitting Free Agency, then either everything that's been reported on that topic has been an absolute lie (I doubt it) or somehow Mookie did a complete 180 in his mind and fell so in love with LA he never wants to leave (highly unlikely). So the Dodgers HAD to see this trade as a rental, with a possibility to woo Mookie for a year to get him to sign once Free Agency starts
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 6, 2020 10:56:18 GMT -5
Clear: he has had TJ. Clear: he had shoulder problems last year. Clear: he has a repertoire that is fit for relief. Not clear: fitness. Adds up. Color me psyched for our return on the best player the Sox have developed in 50+ years. Also not clear: Whether his ultimate future is as a reliever or starter considering people that are actually paid to make those decisions (scouts/GMs) are split on which role he will be in the future
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 6, 2020 10:54:00 GMT -5
You can absolutely blame a boss for the mistakes of his subordinate. Especially in a case like this where the boss had to sign off on it. Dombrowski wasn't, like, embezzling money without Henry's knowledge. Ownership knew the CBT situation too. That doesn't necessarily make Henry "cheap" or whatever, but he's obviously not blameless here. He screwed this up too. I'm not trying to be smug, I honestly don't know the answer to this. Can someone point me to the actual role Henry plays in contract negotiations? Does he literally "sign off" or is it just the GM/PoBO going to him and saying, I want to sign player X for Y years and Z dollars, we'll be fine under the cap, that ok? I'm trying to figure out if the blame is on Henry for messing up himself, or for messing up in trusting his employee. Because as a business owner, you can't literally sign off on every decision, you hire employees you trust to make decisions for you. And Dombrowski had earned that trust in winning the 2018 WS.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 6, 2020 8:48:38 GMT -5
I think it's only a sensational trade for the Dodgers if they either win the World Series or end up re-signing Mookie (either during or after the season). Otherwise it's a tremendous failure because they gave up 2 long term assets for one year of Mookie. They could have easily made the playoffs and not won the WS in 2020 with Verdugo/Maeda (and they probably keep Pederson too). And if they're going into 2021 with no WS title and a hole in RF, what was the point?
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 6, 2020 8:44:03 GMT -5
You don't have to love everything he does, but you also can't be unreasonably mad at him for trying to fix the past mistakes of a fired President of Baseball Operations. Yes he probably "signed off" on the Sale/Eovaldi/Pearce contracts but none of us have ANY idea whatsoever at the process that the team goes through for those decisions. Maybe he just trusted Dombrowski too much, maybe he gave Dombrowski too much power to do these contracts. But people are making it sound like they were in the room when Henry demanded Dombrowski sign Sale for a long-term deal no matter the cost. I'm just asking people to be reasonable for once. This is supposed to be a forum of people who aren't just the casual armchair quarterbacks calling WEEI and saying every player sucks and should be released after one 0-4 night.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 5, 2020 12:58:56 GMT -5
No the point was the Tigers made a lot of short term deals, drained their farm, and even though they signed their best player to a long term contract they still crashed. He was saying if the Sox had Mookie, they couldn't crash, they absolutely still could, especially because they'd be hamstrung by all their high end contracts
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 5, 2020 12:49:40 GMT -5
Yeah my friends, having a player like Mookie Betts will inevitably lead to your team crashing. Yea that's why the Tigers are still so good with Miguel Cabrera. The Tigers (who Dombrowski made a bunch of short term deals and drained the farm) are exactly who they are referencing
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 5, 2020 11:52:53 GMT -5
No, it's asking questions about what you expect owners to do. Which owner do you prefer ran the Sox if you all hate Henry so much? The Wilpons? Steinbrenners? Guggenheim group? One of the 12 teams that's spending less than half the payroll the Sox are Still projecting after jettisoning $43M?
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 5, 2020 11:22:02 GMT -5
I struggle to see why the Sox can't just go all in, absorb the tax hit, then buy draft picks from other teams over the competitive balance threshold Because literally all the stuff I said in my post
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 5, 2020 10:20:33 GMT -5
Just taking notes here. Mookie Betts is a greedy me-first jerk who put his team in an impossible situation. David Price is an overpaid monster who had a beef with an announcer, didn't care enough, and needed to be traded. Also, Alex Verdugo didn't ***really*** do anything wrong. Just making sure I'm tracking everything correctly. You're missing a few notes. John Henry is a selfish billionaire who's never done anything good for this organization. Verdugo's stats are a fluke (even the peripherals) and he isn't actually good, and he'll never play anyway because I heard he's got a broken back. Graterol is definitely a reliever and he'll probably weigh 400 lbs by April. Bloom could have gotten Jeter Downs and maybe Ruiz from the Dodgers if he had just thought to ask. Yes never did anything, that's why he tore down Fenway to build a new revenue generating stadium rather than pour money into the sinking ship (literally, it's sinking) that is Fenway Park. And why he continued to slash payroll to keep them in the bottom half of the MLB rather than be one of the highest payrolls in baseball. This is ridiculous. Yes maybe trying to get under the tax for 2020 isn't a great idea, but how did this ownership go from the best thing that ever happened to the Sox, to the worst group ever? Which owner of another MLB team do you want?
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 5, 2020 10:16:52 GMT -5
Just taking notes here. Mookie Betts is a greedy me-first jerk who put his team in an impossible situation. David Price is an overpaid monster who had a beef with an announcer, didn't care enough, and needed to be traded. Also, Alex Verdugo didn't ***really*** do anything wrong. Just making sure I'm tracking everything correctly. Close: Mookie was always going to Free Agency, so better to get future/present assets for him than run out 2020 with a 90 win team that ends up 3rd in it's own division. David Price was maybe overpaid but absolutely underrated by most Sox fans because of some stupid misunderstood off-field stuff (Fortnite, Eck). And Verdugo is a great asset that a bunch of people on this board were looking for any reason to discourage, so I'm trying to correct them on that. Rather than go to extremes (everyone sucks, everyone is the best), can we all just try to keep things realistic?
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 5, 2020 10:12:13 GMT -5
I struggle with the Comp Balance Tax issue. On the one hand, no good business man sets himself up to pay extra money he doesn't have to. On the other hand, the 2019 Sox tax was $13.4 million. The Sox have been averaging $80M in profits the last few years, so we're talking now only making $67M in profit and that's not really a penalty for fielding consistent World Series favorites. That all being said, if the Red Sox decided to just say "Screw You" to the tax and just outspent everyone and continually went over the tax, not only would other owners/teams hate us, but it would likely result in either harsher penalties or an actual hard cap. As much as we wall like to think we know what it takes to run a half billion dollar company, there's tons of behind the scenes happenings and politics that are just as important to the organization as a whole as signing a new first baseman. So maybe it would be easy to just sign Mookie, keep Price, go over the tax again, and boohoo John Henry only gets to line his pocket with $60M instead of $80M. But do you really think Major League Baseball is just going to let us keep doing that?
As for the draft picks, I honestly see that as a far secondary penalty, because if you commit to outspend everyone you can absorb having weaker draft classes.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 5, 2020 9:50:27 GMT -5
I have to hope the Sox did due diligence on the assault in the hotel room. I hope they have the guts to address it. I'm not as knowledgeable on this topic. Were charges pressed against him? Settlement? Accusations? All I've heard was that he was there, that's it. He was at a party where a bunch of girls beat up a drunk girl, and James Baldwin allegedly sexually assaulted the same drunk girl when no one else in the room. Yes he (and the other players allegedly in the room at the time) should have stepped in to stop the girl from being beat up, but he had no part in the sexual assault. Basically he's guilty of being a stupid 20 yr old, and before you all pass judgment, think of how many stupid fight videos you've all watched on youtube where tons of ppl stand around and watch someone get beat. Yes he should have stepped in, no it's not some mortal sin that he didn't.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Jan 31, 2020 9:55:05 GMT -5
They league is capping pitching staffs at 13. Thinking it through, this probably means one of the NRIs makes the club, at least for now, right? I think even if Dalbec freaking mashes in camp they keep him down to get the extra year, at least to start. I can see it now.....And at the end of camp the Red Sox DFA'd SP Ryan Weber to add Marco Hernandez to the 40
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Jan 30, 2020 13:26:20 GMT -5
They league is capping pitching staffs at 13. The latest I have seen on it was that the Joint Committee would monitor it. Do you have a link to an official MLB release or document stating it would be limited to 13? www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1936839"The league informed clubs on Wednesday that a maximum of 13 pitchers can be carried on the expanded roster, according to Jayson Stark of The Athletic."
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Jan 30, 2020 13:24:10 GMT -5
Also some more math, the 1278 PA's covered by a 5 man bench is 255 PA's per player. There's 26 weeks in the MLB season, so that's 10 PA's a week that need to be covered by the bench. So about 2 games a week, not 1, a bench player will need to start
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Jan 30, 2020 13:17:25 GMT -5
Where are you getting -3.2? Are you saying all the Sox bench players combined last year were -3.2? Well then this bench is perfect:
Lin: 0.0 Plawecki: 0.2 Chavis: 0.7 Peraza: -0.6 Arauz: Didn't play in MLB
They had a total of 0.3 fWAR in 2019
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Jan 30, 2020 11:11:35 GMT -5
A is Chavis for 2B/3B and Lin/Arauz for2B/SS/3B B is Chavis C is Lin/Peraza/Chavis/JD Martinez
Their bench is absolutely fine. Why are people so concerned about the maybe 1 game a week a regular player needs to take off? We have a backup at every position: Pos. Starter/Backup C: Vazuez/Plawecki 1B: Moreland/Chavis 2B: Peraza/Chavis, Lin, Arauz SS: Bogaerts/Peraza, Lin, Arauz 3B: Devers/Chavis, Lin, Arauz LF: Benintendi/Peraza, JD, Lin (rumors Chavis gets some work here as well) CF: JBJ/Benintendi, Lin, Peraza RF: Betts/JD, Benintendi, Peraza
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Jan 29, 2020 11:55:14 GMT -5
The only thing the bench is missing is a traditional 4th OF, and you have JD to backup LF/RF (like once a week, maybe), Peraza and Lin have LF/CF experience, and Chavis could possibly see some time in LF if he does fall into the utility role Bloom mentioned when they signed Moreland. So while Arauz might not see a ton of playing time, he's a good experimental use of the 26th spot as a Rule 5 guy good enough to be an occasional contributor, but likely still needs 1 more season at AAA to reach his potential.
Also Peraza stole 21/23/23 bases from 2016-2018, so he's absolutely your PR specialist.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Jan 28, 2020 11:14:07 GMT -5
I mean, people were bummed to lose Margot because he was a cheap 4th OF option, which is exactly what he became. He's a perfect backup OF who plays solid defense and can steal a few bases. He had the potential to be more, but that was what his most likely outcome was. You could of been running him out there the last 4 seasons instead of guys like Swihart, Holt, Rajai Davis, Bryce Brentz, Gorkys Hernandez etc.
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