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Post by coachmac on Aug 20, 2019 17:26:33 GMT -5
This is such a fun place. I love either accepting insanity as the absolute truth or arguing for thousands of posts. Apparently, Tony Mazz is arguing the same points Pedro is right now. He is playing sound bites from Sale and questioning why the offical releases never once stated surgery is completely off the table and believes he does have a partial tear. Just interesting how adamant he is about this. I don't think he's pushing disinformation, but maybe he is. Chris Sale said there is no tear. He also said that this was his first PRP shot for his elbow. This should settle the debate. To argue he has a tear or has had a previous PRP shot in his elbow is to say Sale is lying.
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Sale to IL
Aug 18, 2019 15:52:10 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by coachmac on Aug 18, 2019 15:52:10 GMT -5
On pre-game show today, Bradford said that Sale told him in London that there was no way that Sale was going to sign with another team. That he would shut down his free agency before he would go elsewhere.
Sale wasn't going anywhere.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 17, 2019 18:28:53 GMT -5
For everyone urging the Red Sox to pay Mookie $330-350M,what level of performance do you expect from him? Is he worth that much if he performs at 2019 levels or do expect he'll rebound to consistently put up near MVP-like performances? He's on pace for about 6 WAR in 2019, and if he kept up that pace he'd be worth $350 million in about 7 seasons. The question isn't whether he could "rebound" from 2019 to be worth such a contract, but whether he'd be able to perform at a 2019 level deep into his 30s. That's never a great bet for any player, but I'd like his chances to at least maintain a 3+ WAR level over the course of a long contract. With (hopefully) some surplus value on the front end, I'd given him 10/350. You don't have to assume he'll put up any more 2018-like seasons for that to be a decent investment. Thanks.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 17, 2019 14:12:16 GMT -5
For everyone urging the Red Sox to pay Mookie $330-350M,what level of performance do you expect from him? Is he worth that much if he performs at 2019 levels or do expect he'll rebound to consistently put up near MVP-like performances?
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Post by coachmac on Aug 15, 2019 6:06:09 GMT -5
Sportrac has Castillo listed as an UFA in 2021.Pedro is correct, before the Cuban players were lumped under the International signing rules many of them signed deals that bypassed the normal arbitaration process.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 14, 2019 21:29:09 GMT -5
If/when he exercises his option, shouldn't some team R5 or trade for him knowing that that $14M also comes with six years of team control? That's definitely possible and probably likely. I believe that at the end of Castillo's deal he becomes a free agent.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 13, 2019 22:07:59 GMT -5
Another baserunning mistake! Damn
Cashner needs a bigger cushion.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 13, 2019 22:06:14 GMT -5
Another baserunning mistake! Damn
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Post by coachmac on Aug 13, 2019 21:58:55 GMT -5
Yet another example of it NOT being our year. We are a talented team playing very poorly...the story of 2019, with so many "microcosm" games. 22 blown saves ( but some here don't see that as an issue!) It's not that blowing leads isnt a problem but the Sox made a fielding error, at least one baserunning blunder,the starter stumbled and the bullpen gave up the lead. If Sox had played a clean game it wouldnt be tied and the bullpen wouldnt have blown a lead.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 13, 2019 21:36:19 GMT -5
With Workman coming in, what is the plan tomorrow? Hernandez should start. Nate threw so few pitches, he can help out as well. Then the off day I think Eovaldi is still the opener tomorrow. He threw 6 pitches tonight. I would hope they'd be more cautious with a guy who's had the elbow problems that Eovaldi has had. The playoffs are äll but out of reach. Why take the risk?
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Post by coachmac on Aug 13, 2019 20:26:18 GMT -5
And Chris Sale has a mediocre outing. In current era it's a quality start.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 13, 2019 17:02:05 GMT -5
Eovaldi to start Wednesday. Will make 50-55 pitches
Edit Cora did condition it upon tonights game.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 13, 2019 16:39:39 GMT -5
Interesting. Can you please also summarize the comparison that Gammons is making with Benintendi to Yaz and Lynn? The comparison was that Benitendi was positioned to become this generation's sweet-swinging lefthander like Yaz and Lynn. After mentioning their similar statures,he then pointed out that both Yaz and Lynn struggled in their 25 year old seasons before breaking out.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 13, 2019 13:40:39 GMT -5
Just read the Sox starters ERA is 29th in MLB and their WHIP is 30th.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 13, 2019 13:16:18 GMT -5
If I rember correctly baseball players get significantly less as a percentage of total revenues than players in the NFL or NBA. The MLBPA clearly missed the mark when it agreed to nominal increases in the competitive balance tax levels. Clearly the growth ofrevenues have outpaced the rise of the tax levels.
If I were Mookie I wouldnt sign a long-term deal until the CBA is extended. In addition to to tax levels a minimum spending level needs to be established. As Manfred mentioned something also needs to be done for the rank and file. Raising minimumd may address that
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Post by coachmac on Aug 11, 2019 22:43:59 GMT -5
Actually if the Sox want to trade JBJ, Rusney Castillo is in the last yearof his contract and wont cost much more than JBJ will in 2020. He at least can hold down the fort until Duran or Wilson prove they are ready for MLB or the Sox move on from them.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 11, 2019 15:53:01 GMT -5
You're giving credit to the GMs without acknowledging A.) John Henry was responsible for hiring them B.) he's won four championships with three different guys running the show. I'm at a loss for what you want from an owner, he spends, maximizes their resources, and hires good people. This wasn't Kraft lucking into Belichick and letting him run the show for two decades, they've won with teams built by Theo, Cherington, and DD. John Henry "intervened" on the Yoan Moncada negotiations too, but lets talk about the "Manny Ramirez situation" which is when they put him on irrevocable waivers and no team claimed him so literally nothing actually happened and it proved he accurately read the market. If only he could've made some extensions for the core, say a Xander Bogaerts…oh wait, nope, that must've beenl Dombrowski. The Sale signing we can attribute to Henry assuming it doesn't work out, if it does work out we can credit the GM and suggest Henry is lucky. Lol, Henry didn't even need to put Manny Ramirez on the market. That's the point. He tried to get rid of him for nothing. There was no reading of the market correctly here. He was being cheap at the time on a good contract because it was expensive. He was a good owner, but I don't believe he's a super owner or whatever ridiculous label you or others put on him. He's the average big market spender here, but has probably just as many limits, if not more limits on his spending. You can't say he doesn't after this past year. I have zero faith in Henry making a market value deal for Mookie. If Mookie wants to stay, he's going to have to take less. Manny was traded because he had become a problem in the clubhouse. He was trying to force the Sox to either extend or trade him and the final straw was when he pushed the travelling secretary. Manny was the problem not money.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 11, 2019 15:43:51 GMT -5
Barnes gave up the run true but he shouldn't have had to pitch the 7th and the 8th. The Sox have have had 3 short starts in a row. All the arms have been used unfortunately. 0nce again the rotation has put the bullpen in an untenable position. I’ve seen this blowpen blow more leads after 6 innings than I can count. If you wanna blame the starters for not going deeper into ball games, than we need to invest in a bartolo colon innings eater. You seem to have missed the point. The bullpen pitched 6.1,4and now 7 innings. Theyve pitched 7+ innings today and allowed 1 run. I guess in your mind it would have to have no runs in 7 + in order to not be "awful, awful."
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Post by coachmac on Aug 11, 2019 15:11:55 GMT -5
Really awful. The pen has given up 1 run in 6 innings
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Post by coachmac on Aug 11, 2019 15:09:59 GMT -5
Ladies and gents, Matt Barnes blowing yet another save. Barnes gave up the run true but he shouldn't have had to pitch the 7th and the 8th. The Sox have have had 3 short starts in a row. All the arms have been used unfortunately. 0nce again the rotation has put the bullpen in an untenable position.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 11, 2019 12:49:26 GMT -5
Nothing good happens when you walk the 1st 2 batters in an inning. Especially when they're hitting .206 and .147. Then for good measure walk a couple more.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 11, 2019 11:14:28 GMT -5
The Sox won't be nearly as good without Mookie. If he is traded then they probably have about $30M to spend to improve the roster during the offseason or to reset the CBT level. This offseason will certainly have a lot of intrigue for Sox fans. If mgmt decides the pitching staff as constituted isn't good enough to compete for a championship and Mookie isn't resigning, Trader Dave could really wheel and deal.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 10, 2019 10:06:01 GMT -5
To be clear I hate the idea of Mookie playing for some other team. However, he has to want to stay in Boston.If it's clear he isnt signing it would be disastrous to the future of the team to let him walk for a 4th Round draft pick. The team should hand him a contract with 8 years and leave the $$$ blank. Tell to fill in the blanks. If they can't get it done then hopefully you get a boatload of talent in exchange. If 8 years is their top offer, he will wind up elsewhere. I know you said leave the $$$ blank, but what if Mookie chose $50 million/year? They can't tie up that much in one player annually - so I don't think that's an option. Realistically he'll get 10 plus years. I think Harper is in Philly until he's 39 and I think Trout got an extension that put him into his late 30s. 8 years old gets Mookie to 35, and I'm sure Mookie can top that. I think the Sox need to be prepared to do 11 years $360 plus million to bring back Mookie. If they don't somebody else will. He might even get 12 years with somebody else. They need to fully commit to Mookie if they're going to sign him. He's made that pretty clear - and if the Sox throw that offer out there and the others don't blow it away - they'll probably hang onto Mookie. I don't know that the Sox would be willing to go that far with Mookie however. I think they could sign him. But that's a different question than will they sign him? The reason I added if they cant get it done, if Mookie and his reps come back and ask for unreasonable $$$ or more years than they are comfortable then trade him. For instance Harper wanted his record total but was willing to spread it out to make the AAV more palatable. I chose 8 years bc thats what Arenado,a as a comparable talent and about the same age, agreed to with the Rockies. He did that in large part because he wanted to stay.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 10, 2019 7:51:26 GMT -5
Trading Mookie Betts would be the single most unbelievably stupid thing I've seen the Red Sox doing in the Henry era. To be clear I hate the idea of Mookie playing for some other team. However, he has to want to stay in Boston.If it's clear he isnt signing it would be disastrous to the future of the team to let him walk for a 4th Round draft pick. The team should hand him a contract with 8 years and leave the $$$ blank. Tell to fill in the blanks. If they can't get it done then hopefully you get a boatload of talent in exchange.
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Post by coachmac on Aug 9, 2019 17:54:27 GMT -5
The article actually says may and there were no Red Sox sources quoted. The sources were other MLB execs who believe the Sox may listen. Your pronouncement may be correct just not supported by that article
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