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Post by kungfuizzy on Aug 3, 2013 18:02:11 GMT -5
DeLaRosa was recalled tonight according to NESN. Awesome news
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Post by kungfuizzy on Aug 3, 2013 6:24:48 GMT -5
People realize that nicknames that are just a variation on a guy's actual name are lame, right? That is baseball. Going all the way back to the Bambino. What about...drum roll please.... The XANBINO!!! ...haha I've read worse.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Aug 1, 2013 15:19:30 GMT -5
why would you put Victorino in cf and Bradley in right when Victorino is one of the best defensive right fielders in the game and Bradley doesn't have the arm for right, but projects as a very good center fielder? Even if you think Victorino is a little better in center the fact that he's WAY better in right should out weight that right? Plus, if you buy that right field is a little less demanding physically then that's another reason to put Bradley there. I mean either guy is fine. I felt that RF would take advantage of Bradley's strengths a little bit more. I feel Fenway is one of those parks where you have to be just as if not more athletic than in CF. RF in Fenway is a tough place to play. One thing I agree on is that his arm isn't the strongest in the world.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Aug 1, 2013 14:47:51 GMT -5
A few things that I've noticed from reading this thread.
1) Napoli does not have a terrible contract. It's one year and while its an overpay its not like he's done any favors for himself on the open market. He's an 8 million dollar a year player at best. I'd throw 2/14 at him and see what happens.
2) Hosmer isn't going anywhere. We like Hosmer but KC likes him too. If you guys think Ortiz is bad at 1B then you guys would love the Billy Butler show. I do agree that this team could use a 1B of the future as even the most delusional homer cannot consider Travis Shaw the future. Middlebrooks clearly isn't the future at 1B either. Ceccini is projected to be in RF. You need to look at guys who need a change of scenery that are somewhat young. These options include Logan Morrison, Matt Adams, Mitch Moreland and Justin Smoak. Now note that I put Adams here because he is blocked in STL by Allen Craig.
3) Who's in CF? People have been talking about JBJ in CF like its his birthright for 2014. There is a very real possibility that the Sox do sign Ellsbury (not the correct move IMO) then what happens? If they do let Ellsbury leave town then I think that JBJ probably starts the season in RF, Victorino shifts to CF. Brentz gets a shot to be in a platoon provided he doesn't shoot himself again in the offseason.
4) The Lineup should be as follows
CF - Victorino RF- Bradley 2B- Laser Show DH- Ortiz 1B - Carp/offseason pickup/Napoli? SS- Boegarts 3B- WMB C- Acquisition/Salty LF- Nava/Acquistion/Brentz?
Now the lineup looks lean and could be drastically altered if the Sox resign Ellsbury and make a godfather offer for Stanton (I don't know how they would do it with Boegarts but...) but this is probably the most realistic
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Post by kungfuizzy on Aug 1, 2013 10:48:50 GMT -5
I am getting extremely nervous. The Phillies want Bogaerts for Lee, and I am extremely afraid that will happen. What are you nervous about? Lou Gorman isn't our GM anymore. The Sox aren't stupid enough to deal Bogaerts. They know darn well what they have in him. They'd be more likely to lose Workman, Ranaudo, and Bradley I would think. Bogaerts isn't going anywhere but to Fenway at some point soon to play 3b for the Red Sox. Lou Gorman was not a terrible GM by any means. At the time the Sox trade for Boddicker was a good one. He tried making deals for guys like Dykstra. He made a few good deals that helped this team in the 80's. Now all of this being said, the Sox are not the Rays or A's. Service time should have nothing to do with a team in the pennant race if they have a big need. Boegarts if he does well the Sox will sign him to a contract extension to buy out his arbitration years anyways. Service time for a big market team in the post season hunt should have zero bearing.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 31, 2013 13:52:46 GMT -5
Young I would take if the cost is next to nothing. If its a straight salary dump they could do a lot worse.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 31, 2013 13:26:14 GMT -5
Felger and Mazz ripping the deal currently. Said that Iggy could be the teams SS for the next 5-10 years for a terrible contract in Peavy. Apparently the trade from last year has made these guys forget what a terrible contract truly is. Boegarts was referred to as "yet another slugging SS that we don't need" and starting pitching wasn't a need. I missed Boston radio... The best part was when they said that Peavy had the best, bb%, k rate "but look at his ERA" If they were running the Mariners I would be hitting them up for King Felix daily. Look at the wins!!! Terrible pitcher Felger is a tad butthurt. The hurt is strong with this one. Wiggins saying that a career .240 or so hitter in the minors will be a .260-.270 hitter in the majors. In other news crack is being used in the United States by a staggering number of people.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 31, 2013 13:18:44 GMT -5
Felger and Mazz ripping the deal currently. Said that Iggy could be the teams SS for the next 5-10 years for a terrible contract in Peavy. Apparently the trade from last year has made these guys forget what a terrible contract truly is. Boegarts was referred to as "yet another slugging SS that we don't need" and starting pitching wasn't a need. I missed Boston radio...
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 31, 2013 12:14:30 GMT -5
Not sure even the Dodgers are dumb enough to take on Howard with AGon already in place at 1B. I'm sure they don't mind paying a bat off the bench 25 mil. They pay Crawford 21 to play half a season. Ethier 15 to be a 4th outfielder. Chavez Ravine has its own printing press installed on the lowest floor of the park, run by Magic Johnson.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 31, 2013 12:10:05 GMT -5
“@jimbowdenespnxm: Dodgers Joc Pederson (teams best OF prospect) is not in AA lineup for Chattanooga today...could the Dodgers have ONE more big move left?” Interesting Dodgers could move Ethier. Joc could also need rest. The Dodgers could also trade for Cliff Lee and Ryan Howard...nothing they do makes much sense anyways but yet they are in 1st. Moving Peterson would be a bad move the guy is a super athletic outfielder that can use his tools well.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 31, 2013 11:56:56 GMT -5
My prediction for today is nothing will happen. The Sox already won the trade deadline with putting Rick Hahn over a barrel.
However I would like to see the Sox cash in someone like Morales or Breslow for a prospect or two. Even Thornton.
Boston traded a bunch of $2 lotto tickets for Thornton and Peavy. I'm thinking maybe grab Rios from them too. At this point I'm sure it would only cost Austin Maddox at this rate.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 31, 2013 9:48:31 GMT -5
Hey, remember the last time the Red Sox traded a useful major league starting pitcher for a B prospect because they had enough pitching? From the non-Red Sox MLB thread: sigh, Arroyo has now won 100 games for the Reds. Wily Mo Pena. I think he would have had a solid career had his agent not had a clause in his contract that he couldn't be sent to AAA. This was a guy who was rushed way too soon and he just got to be an undisciplined hacker. He was in desperate need of pitch recognition training. Pretty much the real life version of Pedro Cerrano. But the guy had about a 7-8 in power alone so I can't blame Theo for that trade as if it panned out the 3-5 of Manny Papi and Pena would have terrorized pitching. That being said the rotation is locked in aside from a Lester or Dempster trade. Lester Peavy Buchholz Lackey Dempster Doubront once again becomes the long man and Workman solves the Sox need for a RHP MR for the season. The thing I love about Workman is that he's efficient and pitches above his stuff. Velocity isn't high, usually a guy who would look overmatched at this level. Kind of reminds me of a better version of Paxton Crawford in the way he pitches. Just my opinion though.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 31, 2013 9:06:34 GMT -5
Am I the only one who seems to think that something is going to happen with one of Morales Thornton Breslow? They have a glut of lefties and need to make room on the 40 man especially with Miller coming back next year. Would be wise to cash in on a prospect or two in a strong lefty market I would think.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 31, 2013 8:44:52 GMT -5
1. Tigers, great move, found a SS of the future at minimal cost . . . . . 2. Red Sox . . 3. White Sox Garcia is a big cost. I'm sure if you do player comps, Iglesias compares more to John McDonald than Ozzie Smith
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 31, 2013 8:37:06 GMT -5
I can imagine that the negotiations went like this Cherington: Hey Rick lets talk Peavy Hahn: Give me JBJ and Boegarts Cherington: Nah what about Montas Hahn: Who? Cherington: He can throw 100 mph ill also throw in Rondon. I'm getting Detroit involved too. Hahn: Rondon sounds great he can throw gas. I want Bradley too. Cherington: Eh ill do Montas and 2 small minor leaguers. Hahn: Nah I'm sorry...ill pass. Jake is a big part of our future and is very valuable to the Chicago organization (Phone Drops) Hahn: I guess the phone dropped Cherington: Sorry about that I just had to take Bradley Jr out of the game. What do you think about Cliff Lee? (pauses) Hahn: Okay you can have Peavy. So does Brad Pitt play Cherington in the movie? Every good movie needs a sequel. Two years in a row Cherington has made a phenomenal deal. With the money that was saved the Red Sox were able to get the following Napoli Victorino (solid when healthy) Drew Peavy Dempster Ross (he's been good when healthy) He has added to the farm system with Webster and RDLR. He sold on Omar Vizquel minus the bat. The main point is with all of those bloated contracts they unloaded last year the Sox were able to reinvest their money in a smart manner. Never would have been able to pull the trigger if LA didn't bail the Sox out last year.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 31, 2013 8:11:27 GMT -5
I can imagine that the negotiations went like this
Cherington: Hey Rick lets talk Peavy
Hahn: Give me JBJ and Boegarts
Cherington: Nah what about Montas
Hahn: Who?
Cherington: He can throw 100 mph ill also throw in Rondon. I'm getting Detroit involved too.
Hahn: Rondon sounds great he can throw gas. I want Bradley too.
Cherington: Eh ill do Montas and 2 small minor leaguers.
Hahn: Nah I'm sorry...ill pass. Jake is a big part of our future and is very valuable to the Chicago organization
(Phone Drops)
Hahn: I guess the phone dropped
Cherington: Sorry about that I just had to take Bradley Jr out of the game. What do you think about Cliff Lee?
(pauses)
Hahn: Okay you can have Peavy.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 30, 2013 23:18:23 GMT -5
I would LOVE this deal if the Red Sox were actually getting a true #2, borderline #1 like an earlier commenter suggested. However, what we're actually getting is a pitcher with a swstr% that is nearly a percentage point below the MLB average, an abysmal HR/FB, and good control. In other words, John Lackey with fewer strikeouts. To me, Iglesias should bring back more value than that. His FIP and xFIP show that he's been hit with some bad luck. His WAR since last year is 1.3 higher than Lester or anyone else on this staff. Iglesias being traded at his highest value opens up a spot in the lineup for Boegarts, eventually. Middlebrooks gets one more shot at 3rd. Peavy is by all accounts a #2 that has shown in the past he can be an ace. Right now he technically would be Boston's ace (Buchholz is on the DL). Zero downside to this move
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 30, 2013 23:00:23 GMT -5
Chris Hatfield ? Chris Hatfield 6s Red Sox report Wendelken, Montas, Rondon to CWS Chris Hatfield ? Chris Hatfield 6s Red Sox report Wendelken, Montas, Rondon to CWS Chris Hatfield ? Chris Hatfield 6s Red Sox report Wendelken, Montas, Rondon to CWS Montas is the only one who I think can be called a legit prospect. Cherington stole Peavy. If you read the fan graphs Peavy vs Garza article and see what Boston and Texas gave up...no contest. Just amazing work
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 30, 2013 22:47:12 GMT -5
Kind of want to hang on to Buttrey and McGrath. Could see Kukuk going. Me too but so far Iglesias and Rondon aren't much of a price to pay so we can't get too upset over an unproven prospect 4 or 5 years away. Iglesias is palatable with Bogaerts ready soon and Marrero down the road with a little less glove but a little more stick. Rondon doesn't register for me. Sounds like a win for Ben tonight to me! Say if the Sox do trade Buttery. This was a guy who was paid overslot with good upside who was in XST to start the year. I like his makeup but in order to get a good pitcher like Peavy that is in a weird way a good financial bet (compared to playing in FA) you need to give up these players. The one guy in A ball I would have been pissed about was Rijo. You cannot hate this trade for Boston. They got an excellent #2 borderline #1 when healthy for a package headed by a SS who some posters wanted to DFA in March. There is no downside to this deal especially since the team will still have a borderline top 5 farm system.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 30, 2013 22:34:23 GMT -5
Matt Huegel ?@matthuegelsp 1m Sounds like it's Rondon and two lower level pitchers now. RT @alexspeier Correction:Wendell Rijo is NOT in the deal what??? Rondon to whom??? If we get Bruce Rondon some how Cherrington gets GM of the year. No way that Dombrowski gets bossed like that...right??? Must be a typo
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 30, 2013 22:14:31 GMT -5
A. I wonder who the pitcher coming from Detroit is. B. Any bets on who the 2/3 lesser prospects are C. If Cherington is able to land Peavy without moving any of the top 10-12 prospects. Then Bravo. Either Betts or Buttery
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 30, 2013 22:07:04 GMT -5
If we get Peavy without giving up one of RDLR Webster Ranaudo Workman Britton Barnes Owens this is remarkable, and next winter looks sunny and warm. Hoping for Iglesias Buttery Betts
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 30, 2013 21:31:24 GMT -5
no way JBJ is in a peavy deal right? I would highly doubt it. The White Sox have no relievers left to trade p
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 30, 2013 21:27:06 GMT -5
Jon Heyman ?@jonheymancbs 37s #redsox are in serious talks for jake peavy Why? Only thing I can think of is that maybe they're trading Doubront somewhere?? Or moving Workman to the pen? Neither of which make much sense but let's see how all of this plays out.
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Post by kungfuizzy on Jul 30, 2013 21:24:31 GMT -5
Jon Heyman ?@jonheymancbs 37s #redsox are in serious talks for jake peavy It better not be for much. I would trade a lotto ticket and a C prospect for Peavy. I'd be more interested in Rios to be honest.
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