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Post by mgoetze on Aug 8, 2013 21:09:11 GMT -5
This team has so much chemistry that their off days align perfectly...
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Post by Guidas on Aug 8, 2013 21:10:40 GMT -5
This offense seems very mortal without the Big Papi.
I am only half joking. I know Chen is inexplicably throwing a good game but this just seems like the Rays without Longoria or Myers - a few tough outs but nothing special at all.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 8, 2013 21:28:19 GMT -5
I feel like picking any random player on the bench and pinch hitting him for Brock Holt would have been a good idea just now.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Aug 8, 2013 21:33:42 GMT -5
Pinch-hitting Papi for Victorino would have been the perfect spot. A righty on the mound. No lefty in the pen. Two men on. So, they're going to pitch to him with Pedroia on-deck. Victorino's not as good vs righties. I like Farrell as a manager. But, think he could use an elite bench coach.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 8, 2013 21:34:10 GMT -5
Meanwhile in a AAA double header some guy is 4/6, 2B.
Edit: 5/7 sorry he just had a game tying RBI single.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 8, 2013 21:41:24 GMT -5
They were just teeing off against Rubby.
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Post by mredsox89 on Aug 8, 2013 21:41:52 GMT -5
Rough night for Rubby. Sucks given how sharp he was in his Sox debut
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Aug 8, 2013 21:43:11 GMT -5
Rough night for Rubby. Sucks given how sharp he was in his Sox debut His debut with us was against a minor league team. Can't throw your fastball down the middle of the plate. He put it on a tee for them. Even the first two outs were loud ones.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 8, 2013 21:43:21 GMT -5
Funny thing is I can't figure out what RDLR is doing wrong. 98 mph, staying down in the zone, looked like reasonable amounts of movement. Just bad luck or did I miss something?
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Post by charliezink16 on Aug 8, 2013 21:43:39 GMT -5
They were just teeing off against Rubby. The guy has nasty stuff, but you can tell he's not quite ready for the big show. He left way too many fastballs right over the plate instead of hitting corners. He will continue to develop, and he just looks like a potential shutdown closer to me.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 8, 2013 21:44:42 GMT -5
Meanwhile in a AAA double header some guy is 4/6, 2B. Edit: 5/7 sorry he just had a game tying RBI single. And he play short stop for both games.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 21:47:52 GMT -5
Are we giving up on RDLR ever being a starter? When he was first acquired, he was projected as a starter. His stuff was even compared to Pedro's. Can he still start? He did well in Pawtucket as a starter. It would be a shame to move such a great arm to the bullpen...
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Post by charliezink16 on Aug 8, 2013 21:48:15 GMT -5
"A rare mistake for a guy who's been lights out for the past month" - Royals play by play man on Cain's effort in CF. Yeah, he really is that good out there where people expect him to make those plays on the regular...
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 8, 2013 21:50:13 GMT -5
5 hole obviously perfect for Drew. Can we keep him there?
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Post by bluechip on Aug 8, 2013 21:50:38 GMT -5
Are we giving up on RDLR ever being a starter? When he was first acquired, he was projected as a starter. His stuff was even compared to Pedro's. Can he still start? He did well in Pawtucket as a starter. It would be a shame to move such a great arm to the bullpen... I wouldn't yet. There is no reason for there to be need at the MLB level next year and Rubby has options left.
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Post by danr on Aug 8, 2013 22:14:53 GMT -5
Pitching out of the bullpen is a long established practice for developing young pitchers. In the great days of the Orioles, it was a common practice to start almost every pitcher in the bullpen. I think it is particularly applicable to a contending team.
Also, the Sox will need a closer next year and thereafter. Developing one from the existing farm system seems far preferable to continuing to trade prospects in an effort to find one.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 8, 2013 22:25:35 GMT -5
Pitching out of the bullpen is a long established practice for developing young pitchers. In the great days of the Orioles, it was a common practice to start almost every pitcher in the bullpen. I think it is particularly applicable to a contending team. It's also a practice that hasn't been particularly effective since teams gave up on using relievers for multiple innings, as Weaver was doing on those Orioles teams.
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Post by mredsox89 on Aug 8, 2013 22:28:03 GMT -5
Theres no spot in the rotation for Rubby right now, and I don't think they want him to go out and throw too many more innings. He's topped 70 for the season coming off of TJ surgery. They have space in the MLB pen and think he can handle it at the moment. His role in the majors the last two months probably won't have much impact on his future. Especially given the logjam that is the Pawsox rotation right now, this is a good way to keep his innings down and see if he can help the club before the playoffs
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 8, 2013 22:35:35 GMT -5
Is it time to finally promote Bogaerts to play 3b, put Snyder on waivers and let the Yankees have him which is why they haven't already.. NY isn't going anywhere and he's not going to make them competitive anyway. Then start sitting Salty against all lefties, which he can't hit.
These same results happen a lot after the AS break. Drew has some issues vs lefties, or did before the last several weeks. Salty flat out can't hit them at all and Ells often has some awful looking swings vs them.
It's time to add some type of RH threat and with Napoli looking worse by the day.. Gomes needs help. Bogaerts is the only one available with power.
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Post by bjb406 on Aug 8, 2013 22:47:36 GMT -5
Or Middlebrooks
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Post by wskeleton76 on Aug 8, 2013 22:55:47 GMT -5
Call up Bogaerts and Butler.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 9, 2013 1:55:57 GMT -5
Agreed on Bogaerts and there is a need for a better overall solution against LH pitching. Now is the time.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 9, 2013 2:32:41 GMT -5
Call up Bogaerts and Butler. Butler even over Lavarnway if they want to switch up backup catchers. Farrell has got to get over his infatuation with Salty, or even if this team makes it to the PO? Some team is going to attempt to stack lefties vs them and it's going to be all over but the crying for us Sox fans. The lack of anyone who can hit them well, other than Gomes, Pedey and Ortiz well and Drew these last couple of weeks won't cut it come October. Tring to shield Snyder from a pathetic Yankees is a waste of roster space. he's a decent backup, but not worth the spot when they really need Bogaerts potential bat instead to try and revitalize the lineup vs lefties and help protect ortiz.
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Post by godot on Aug 9, 2013 3:47:08 GMT -5
Call up Bogaerts and Butler. Butler even over Lavarnway if they want to switch up backup catchers. Farrell has got to get over his infatuation with Salty, or even if this team makes it to the PO? Some team is going to attempt to stack lefties vs them and it's going to be all over but the crying for us Sox fans. The lack of anyone who can hit them well, other than Gomes, Pedey and Ortiz well and Drew these last couple of weeks won't cut it come October. Tring to shield Snyder from a pathetic Yankees is a waste of roster space. he's a decent backup, but not worth the spot when they really need Bogaerts potential bat instead to try and revitalize the lineup vs lefties and help protect ortiz. Farrell's "infatuation" with Salty is based on the pitchers feeling comfortable with him. Apparently he has put a lot of time and work into the pitch calling and handling part of his trade, and even guys like Lackey praise his work. His hitting has become a little consistent. Last year at this time he was fading with the bat. Overall, he seems to be more comfortable and confident this year. He has more work to do on his game, but one step at a time. Lavarnway is not there yet as he is not getting the time. They are in a pennant race, and it is not the place to provide on the job training. At this point the pitcher's comfort and confident with Salty rules, whiffs and all. If Ross was healthy, he would be getting more rest, but that is off the table.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 9, 2013 7:23:49 GMT -5
Butler even over Lavarnway if they want to switch up backup catchers. Farrell has got to get over his infatuation with Salty, or even if this team makes it to the PO? Some team is going to attempt to stack lefties vs them and it's going to be all over but the crying for us Sox fans. The lack of anyone who can hit them well, other than Gomes, Pedey and Ortiz well and Drew these last couple of weeks won't cut it come October. Tring to shield Snyder from a pathetic Yankees is a waste of roster space. he's a decent backup, but not worth the spot when they really need Bogaerts potential bat instead to try and revitalize the lineup vs lefties and help protect ortiz. Farrell's "infatuation" with Salty is based on the pitchers feeling comfortable with him. Apparently he has put a lot of time and work into the pitch calling and handling part of his trade, and even guys like Lackey praise his work. His hitting has become a little consistent. Last year at this time he was fading with the bat. Overall, he seems to be more comfortable and confident this year. He has more work to do on his game, but one step at a time. Lavarnway is not there yet as he is not getting the time. They are in a pennant race, and it is not the place to provide on the job training. At this point the pitcher's comfort and confident with Salty rules, whiffs and all. If Ross was healthy, he would be getting more rest, but that is off the table. You do realize that is the exact same line of excuses some people were laying out for continuing to use varitek game after game when Salty was around don't you? Maybe.. Just Maybe another catcher would have a chance to get better acclimated with pitchers if they had a chance to catch more often rather than only when the leagues best pitchers are on the mound, or someone Salty can't catch, like the knuckleballer Wright so Lavarnway has to tough it out? That comfortable line got old several years back IOW.
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