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Boston Celtics 2013-14 Season
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 26, 2014 21:38:40 GMT -5
Why are they beating the Hawks? I wonder if Danny is happy he hired Stevens thus year at a time like this or not.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 27, 2014 15:54:22 GMT -5
The Celtics are screwing the pooch with this Rondo situation. This never should've gone public and when it did they should've handled it quietly in house and not had both Ainge and Stevens talking publicly against Rondo regardless of how soft it seems. The reason being is this just hurts his trade value or has the real potential to do so. At this point it's difficult to understand how you can keep him when he ignores the coach you've committed to.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 28, 2014 15:36:40 GMT -5
ESPN has an article about regarding FA and the contracts they should receive. Even they think my 6m was too high, which honestly I agree with. In any event 8-10m are ridiculous dollars for him. If you look at the list, please realize they are ordered by AAV of contract not by who's the best. Carmelo is above LeBron because he's eligible to make more money under league rules. Both are on the list because they will probably opt out even if to resign with same team. 25. Avery Bradley | PG/SG | UFA | 2013-14 Team: Boston Celtics Bradley 2013-14 Salary: $2.5 million | Suggested AAV: $4.5 million/year, three years Bradley is one of the NBA's premier backcourt defensive players, but he poses a bit of an offensive dilemma in that he lacks the playmaking creativity to play point guard and isn't a reliable enough shooter to play off ball. A comparable would be Tony Allen's four-year, $20 million deal, but Bradley's smaller size doesn't give him as much versatility defensively as Allen. insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10525164/nba-ranking-top-30-free-agents-2014 |
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Post by jmei on Feb 28, 2014 15:59:12 GMT -5
Gerald Wallace tore his meniscus and is out for the remainder of the season (he may also need surgery to remove bone spurs in his ankle). Vitor Favarani may also need knee surgery. Chris Babb signed to a 10-day deal, Chris Johnson will get a good look the rest of the season.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 28, 2014 18:30:40 GMT -5
Does Wallace going down actually make the team better?
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Post by jmei on Mar 3, 2014 18:55:15 GMT -5
This is an interesting series on the Celtics' pick-and-roll defense. The film cut-ups are more valuable than the pure statistics (largely due to small samples, inability to compare to other teams, and the fact that it's a make/miss league), but it's worth a read if you're a basketball X&Os junkie: www.celticsblog.com/2014/3/2/5464534/assessing-the-boston-celtics-pick-and-roll-defenseMy takeaways: Bass is a pretty good P&R defender, Olynyk and Sullinger have a long way to go (they both show a glaring lack of mobility), and Bayless is surprisingly agile at getting around picks. |
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Post by xxdamgoodxx on Mar 3, 2014 19:23:02 GMT -5
Wallace belongs on a team in the league. He is making about 9.2 million more than he should, he was playing 15 more mpg then he should, and he can't seem to shoot at all free throws anymore, but he can pass and he is a good, albeit falling apart, defender. Don't hate the player, hate the team that him that gave him that contract and the team that gave up Damian Lillard for it. Other scrambled thoughts (mostly about the raging Love in my pants): 1) Kevin Love is the perfect fit next to Rondo. If you asked God himself to create a big man to play with Rondo, he would make Love. His spot-up, perimeter shooting is almost unparalleled among other productive big men in the league now. There is no other star player right now in the league that would fit like Love. The players that fit the best with the current Rondo (not the one of 2007/2008) are the ones who don't need to have the ball in their hands for the majority of the possession to be productive. People have already scrutinized the rumored back-court of Rondo-Harden before it even happened for this reason. If you have an elite scoring wing that needs the ball to be effective, you need a point guard that can get the ball up the floor and hit open 3-pointers(Mario Chalmers). Teams in the recent era have not won championships with their point guard as their best player, but I think that a Rondo/Love tandem could have similar success to Paul/Griffin of LA (hopefully perform better in the playoffs). 2) The Timberwolves are absolutely screwed. They can't contend with their current roster and they are committed to players like Pekovic and Martin, who could care less about defense, for 4 and 3 seasons after this one. Rubio is their only semi-legit defender and he is a poor man's Rondo at best. Love is leaving them unless they can pull some miracle move that transforms them into contenders and that probably isn't going to happen. They can ether accept their poor decisions and get something for Love (my pipe dream) via trade or let him walk (my worst nightmare) to sign somewhere sunny and warm. 3) I think Love could be had for Sully, filler, and 3 of the lower first rounders such as BK/AL 1st 2014, Clips 1st 2015, and C's 2016 1st (fingers-crossed they are good by then). Love has said that he wants to be on a winner and he said that he would like to play in Boston. I don't read too much into those comments, but the least you can take from it is that he isn't appalled by the prospect of being a Celtic. 4) The first move I would make after this is to get Asik, someone Love has definitely had dreams of playing next to, and bring his defensive excellence to help cover for the one major flaw in Love's game, defense, not to mention we would be starting two 10+ rebound/night guys in the same front-court *big-man-gasm*. I think a reasonable deal would be Green and the Philly 2015/2016 conditional first for him. Then we have a Rondo-Love-Asik nucleus with a top pick in 2014 plus Olynyk and Hump (I'm assuming a cheapish re-sign) as the bench front-court duo (I'm assuming Bass goes as a sweetener or filler in one of those deals so that we can use KO on his rookie contract) and a mid-level exception player. 5) I have a few flaws that I have already picked out that make me question that core as it relates to the 2007/2008 championship squad. First off, the Rondo-Love-Asik-Top Pick core would be young, but still in their prime, and there aren't any leaders on that squad like KG. All of their contracts would be up in the 2015 off-season, unless Love doesn't use his option, which is a huge red flag because all of the asset sacrifice you had to make could all be undone if they leave. On the other side of the coin, You could sign Rondo and Love to max deals and Asik to a Bogut-esque 12 mil a year and have no room to maneuver if you find that you aren't good enough to win a title. Bradley might have to be let go if he gets an offer too good for you to match and then you would be down your starting 2 and 3 entering 2014/2015 season. Ideally, you get a wink and nod agreement with Rondo that he comes back for 2 or so million below the max, after he "tests" free agency, to play for a winner, Love gets his max deal, and Asik comes back for 9-10 a year so you could be more flexible with mid-season moves/sign-and-trade in the future. 6) We would also have Wallace's contract on the books, though it becomes more trade-able when its only 2 more years, but it would still be hard to deal and if we waited another year it would be an expiring 10 million. ...phew, that was brewing for about a week, now poke holes in my dream bubble.  |
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Post by jmei on Mar 3, 2014 20:58:55 GMT -5
Oh man, I had pretty much the exact same dream bubble recently. The Celtics (as Simmons pointed out recently) are one of the few teams with the assets to acquire him and another fully-developed star to pair him with, and I think Minnesota is going to have to trade him this offseason (he's going to walk in 2015 and Minnesota won't be able to get enough pieces to seriously compete before then; might as well trade him now rather than letting him walk for nothing or getting lesser assets at next year's trade deadline). Sullinger is an appealing piece from Minnesota's perspective and a piece I'm willing to move, but I'm starting to think it might take both him and this year's draft pick (assuming it falls in the 5-7 range; I'm pessimistic and don't think they're going to win a top-3 pick) to get Love. If that's what it takes (along with salary filler like Bogans and Anthony), would you still do the deal? You'd have to trust that Ainge and Rondo can convince him to come back in 2015, but if he seems receptive to doing so, I think that's something I would do. Asik would be the obvious next domino to fall, though I think the Celtics are more likely to acquire him using the $10m trade exception from the Nets deal and one of their extra future picks (say, the Nets' 2016 pick). Morey isn't interested in Green (he thinks Green is overpaid, and he's right), but loves picks (though the PHI pick on its own is nowhere near enough). Green is miscast as a primary option, but he's perfect as the efficient scoring wing who hits open 3s and drives against spread-out defenses. In my mind, keeping him next to Rondo/Love makes more sense than trying to move him and getting not much in return. I re-sign Bradley, hopefully for $6m a year That gives us a core of Rondo-Bradley-Green-Love-Asik, with Olynyk, Bass, Faverani, [ATL/BKL pick], and whatever free-agent signings they can swing. They still have the Clippers pick next year, the PHI likely second rounders, the right to swap with the Nets in 2017, and the Nets' 2018 pick. That's at least a top-4 seed in the East with upside. |
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Post by xxdamgoodxx on Mar 4, 2014 20:37:21 GMT -5
A 5-7 pick in this draft is expendable to me, although it sure puts a damper on it. Outside of the top 3, there really aren't any franchise pieces so, if that's what it takes, I'd give it to them. However, I don't see the fit of any of the players that would be taken there in Minny. Randle, Gordon, and Vonleh would all be behind Pek and Sully, so there's not much sense in having one of them come off of the bench. Smart, Ennis, and Exum are all also going to be blocked by Martin and Rubio. Harris is the only one that comes with skills that the T-Wolves don't already have - defense and efficiency - and the only way he would start is if they wanted Martin to be a 6th man (which is probably his best spot) but he signed there to start, so you might get an Asik situation there. Minny's real need is an efficient defensive-minded 3, like Wiggins, but after him there aren't any that would be drafted top-10.
Also, I thought a little bit more about the leadership thing and then I realized that Asik is on the market purely because of playing time reasons (he's on one of the best teams in the league getting 8 mil a year, hello?) and Rondo just skipped a game to celebrate his birthday (EDIT: I don't blame Asik for feeling betrayed/knowing he would start on half of the other teams in the league or Rondo for skipping a game he wasn't going to play in, I just don't think that those are the ideal qualities that you want in your team's best players). Love is saying the right things, but no one follows him ether. Stevens is still just a pup in the coaching world and would he be able to handle all of that un-player-guided star-power in just his second season? The team can't afford to cash in their chips and flop in a diva-filled catastrophe. I don't think that it's a definite point of collapse for this hypothetical team, but I think the concern is real.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 4, 2014 21:04:22 GMT -5
The worst thing an NBA team can do is try to fix too quick and end up not good enough. I think the right thing to do is make your picks this year and possibly trade Rondo if he's not the right fit here. Bass is tradable and if Bradley wants too much explore a sign and trade. I have no issues being bad next year again with a lot of young guys developing their games. I'm not saying it's the only way to go, but I wouldn't force anything too early.
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Post by bmitchsox on Mar 4, 2014 21:14:59 GMT -5
I agree with you guys, and do you think there's a legitimate chance Melo would follow? Since Melo said he wants to play with Rondo, if we got Love and Asik, I think he would have to SERIOUSLY consider it. Let's face it, the Knicks are garbage and are headed nowhere for a while. I wouldn't trade our pick if it was top 3 though. But this would be my ideal offseason if we're not top 3-
Sullinger, Bass, Green, C's '14 1st for Love
Clippers '15 1st, Celtics '15 2nd and Wallace for Asik (or Chandler)
Sign Pierce for 1yr (PRAYING)
Sign Melo
Sign Bradley for 4/28
Draft Selden (or Young)
Rondo-Bayless-Pressey
Bradley-Selden-Johnson
Melo-Pierce
Love-Olynyk-Humphries
Asik-Faverani-Anthony (or FA)
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Post by xxdamgoodxx on Mar 4, 2014 21:45:15 GMT -5
I really don't want any part of Melo at all. I realize that he hasn't had any supplementary starts with him to possibly lead to a successful team, but he just sucks away possessions and brings you very little value if he's not scoring. In addition, he's going to demand a 15+ mil contract at least, which we can't do cap-wise.
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Post by xxdamgoodxx on Mar 4, 2014 22:02:47 GMT -5
The worst thing an NBA team can do is try to fix too quick and end up not good enough. I think the right thing to do is make your picks this year and possibly trade Rondo if he's not the right fit here. Bass is tradable and if Bradley wants too much explore a sign and trade. I have no issues being bad next year again with a lot of young guys developing their games. I'm not saying it's the only way to go, but I wouldn't force anything too early. But the issue is forced by Rondo's imminent free agency. Rondo isn't coming back if you don't surround him with pieces that he can win with. I don't think he wants to leave, it just isn't smart for him to stay with a rebuilding team in his best years. If you trade him, then, as the cliche goes, you are just going to start looking for someone to replace him. Maybe you get that guy in the draft, maybe you don't. It's a much riskier road then trying to spin a Garnett-type deal, with sometimes greater results (OKC) and sometimes unfathomably awful results (Charlotte). You already have one star you need at least one more and additional help with sub-star players to be a contender. Also, picks are a lot more sexy then players as a whole so this off-season would be the time to pull the trigger because the clean, sparkly picks in the asset pile haven't been turned into pretty but not-as-shiny players yet. Overall, I understand your caution, but Ainge has already stated that he won't be too keen on having 2 bottom-10 seasons in a row and I think the time is now with Love's supposed availability. |
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Post by jmei on Mar 5, 2014 0:12:24 GMT -5
Look, if Love is available and you can get him for a reasonable cost and are confident that he'll re-sign (those are big ifs, but we're wishcasting here), you pretty much have to do it. There's pretty much no doubt in my mind that Love is a top-15 player in the league and Rondo is at least top-30 (FWIW, nba.si ranked Love 13th and Rondo 26th entering this season; ESPN had Love 11th and Rondo 22nd); if you have a chance to pair those two guys together with some young complementary pieces, it's an absolute no-brainer. Assuming health, two top-30 players pretty much guarantees at least an outside shot at title contention, especially when paired with a promising young coach and an ownership willing to spend. A Philadelphia-style teardown will take a brutally long time (especially since Rondo on an expiring contract won't fetch much of an asset in return) and far from guarantees success (see: Cleveland, Charlotte, innumerable others). Besides, if you trade Rondo (or wait until he's well into his decline phase before the next great Celtics team comes together), there aren't any other players on the roster that have the potential to develop into the All-NBA type necessary to be a title contender (unlike, say, MCW/Noel on PHI or Adetokumbo), which means you're betting a lot on the lottery odds, which is (literally) a crapshoot.
RE: whether Minnesota would want a 5-7th pick
If they think there's a draftee who has true star potential, they'll take him even if he somewhat overlaps with one of their existing good-but-not-great players. Besides, Exum and Smart can absolutely play off the ball, and Rubio has lost a lot of his shine this season (unless he improves his shooting/finishing a lot, he's not going to stick in the league no matter how good his court vision is). Gordon or Randal or Vonleh can absolutely rotate with Pek/Sullinger, especially since they're all relatively raw players still.
RE: leadership void with a Rondo/Love core
Don't see it as an issue. Rondo is kind of an ***hole but he's also a natural leader. I generally think these things are overblown and only matter if the team performs poorly on the court. Noone had a problem with Kobe's being a jerk or Dwight's childishness until they started losing.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 5, 2014 17:34:26 GMT -5
Cleveland is a team who's done exactly what I'm suggesting g you don't do, they got caught in between rebuilding and adding players. They overpaid to keep a role player with questionable health at the wrong time. See Bradley comp, and they made terrible picks, often looking need first trying to build a winner too fast.
I'm not saying not to necessarily get Love, but it may not be the right time. If Rondo leaves, he leaves, but I don't think its a guarantee he does even if he hits UFA. The league may not see him as a guaranteed max guy. The bigger question is can he stay here and it's something we don't know. If he isn't a good fit for this organization then Ainge really needs to deal him this offseason. You can't commit to a young coach like Stevens and let him be under minded. You can either deal him for future assets like first rd pick(s), and a player n a rookie deal. Or you can get fewer assets and dump the Wallace and or Green contracts.
As for Ainge not wanting 2 bottom 10 seasons in a row, well tough crap. This is a longterm rebuild and that should be ok. He can't screw up the cap.
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Post by jmei on Mar 5, 2014 18:02:10 GMT -5
Let's note the huge difference here: Cleveland tried to jump straight from third-worst team in the league in 2012-13 to a playoff spot in 2013-14 by signing a few mid-level guys (Jarret Jack, Earl Clark, Andrew Bynum, all of whom busted) and adding a top draft pick in a crappy draft (Bennett). The Celtics would be trading draft picks for an unambiguous perennial All-Star player to pair with their existing star.
I pretty much think any time you can get a top-15 player for a reasonable trade cost and believe you can get him to stay long-term, you do it. Those types of players are a requirement for title contention, and it's incredibly hard to get them any other way. As I mentioned above, pairing two top-25 players (one of which is the best pick-and-pop big man in the game, the other of which is an elite pick-and-roll ball handler) seems like guaranteed title contention, especially in the weaker East. The only risk is that you get a scenario like the Lakers had last year where injuries cause the team to underperform and star players get disgruntled, but that's a low-probability risk I'm willing to take, and even if it does happen, you let Rondo and Love walk in free agency and have the same tear-down rebuild, just one that started a year later.
It seems like you're more concerned about whether Rondo is a long-term fit in Boston than whether acquiring Love is a good idea. If that's the case, I think you've listened to a little too much talk radio lately. Rondo is a stubborn and enigmatic dude, but he's also incredibly talented and competitive. Put him on a winning team, and all these media-constructed controversies go away.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 5, 2014 19:21:22 GMT -5
Pairing 2 top 25 players guarantees title contention? Now I don't always agree with you but this is the first time I can remember rolling my eyes at a statement you've made.
Also, listening to too much talk radio is such a cop out statement. The fact I barely listen to the radio is irrelevant. The Celtics made this story not the media. Either both Danny and Brad made separate mistakes with what they said or they purposely threw him under the bus because they were bullshit with him. I, personally, find it hard to believe it was a mistake.
Regardless, I've never once said they need to move on from him, I did strongly question how you do if he's undermining your coach. But that's the number one thing they need to figure out before they start dealing big assets. It's a mistake to roll the dice on assuming he stays if you trade for Love. You also don't trade for Love (or anyone else of his stature/contract situation) under any realistic circumstance without signing him long term as part of the deal.
To say you give up a top 10 pick plus Sully and if you lose Love and Rondo it's no big deal because you just start a rebuild a year later is so far off base I can't even start to explain and keep this post to one page. Besides losing the assets, the worse draft position they gave you in then yet you had them, your also going to end up with at least one Courtney Lee type deal that's weighing you down. It sets the rebuild back 3-4 years not 1.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Mar 5, 2014 20:41:56 GMT -5
Oh man, I had pretty much the exact same dream bubble recently. The Celtics (as Simmons pointed out recently) are one of the few teams with the assets to acquire him and another fully-developed star to pair him with, and I think Minnesota is going to have to trade him this offseason (he's going to walk in 2015 and Minnesota won't be able to get enough pieces to seriously compete before then; might as well trade him now rather than letting him walk for nothing or getting lesser assets at next year's trade deadline). Sullinger is an appealing piece from Minnesota's perspective and a piece I'm willing to move, but I'm starting to think it might take both him and this year's draft pick (assuming it falls in the 5-7 range; I'm pessimistic and don't think they're going to win a top-3 pick) to get Love. If that's what it takes (along with salary filler like Bogans and Anthony), would you still do the deal? You'd have to trust that Ainge and Rondo can convince him to come back in 2015, but if he seems receptive to doing so, I think that's something I would do. Asik would be the obvious next domino to fall, though I think the Celtics are more likely to acquire him using the $10m trade exception from the Nets deal and one of their extra future picks (say, the Nets' 2016 pick). Morey isn't interested in Green (he thinks Green is overpaid, and he's right), but loves picks (though the PHI pick on its own is nowhere near enough). Green is miscast as a primary option, but he's perfect as the efficient scoring wing who hits open 3s and drives against spread-out defenses. In my mind, keeping him next to Rondo/Love makes more sense than trying to move him and getting not much in return. I re-sign Bradley, hopefully for $6m a year That gives us a core of Rondo-Bradley-Green-Love-Asik, with Olynyk, Bass, Faverani, [ATL/BKL pick], and whatever free-agent signings they can swing. They still have the Clippers pick next year, the PHI likely second rounders, the right to swap with the Nets in 2017, and the Nets' 2018 pick. That's at least a top-4 seed in the East with upside. What if the Celtics get a top 3 pick? What then? |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 5, 2014 20:52:19 GMT -5
Btw Jmei, love that u came down on the AB price tag... Meant to mention that before.
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Post by jmei on Mar 5, 2014 21:28:15 GMT -5
Teams with two blue-chip stars in their prime tend to do really, really well. All-Star appearances aren't perfect proxies for top-25 status, but they work well enough; here are the teams with multiple sub-30 All-Stars in recent years (some margin for error since I manually compiled these quickly):
2012-13: Heat (66W, champions), Bulls* (45W, 2nd round), Clippers (56W, 1st round), Thunder (60W, 2nd round)
2011-12: Heat (50W, champions), Bulls* (46W, 1st round), Clippers (40W, 2nd round), Thunder (47W, finals)
2010-11: Heat (58W, finals), Hawks (44W, 2nd round), Thunder (55W, conf. finals)
2009-10: [n/a]
2008-09: Magic (59W, finals), Cavs (66W, conf. finals), Hornets (49W, 1st round)
The median performance of these teams is 53 wins and an appearance in the conference finals (mean is 53 wins and most of the way to a conference finals appearance), and that's including a couple Bulls teams that suffered debilitating injuries that killed their chances. At any rate, I find it hard to believe a Rondo/Love team (especially one with Asik/Green/Bradley as the other starers) isn't at least the 3rd or 4th best team in the conference. If Rondo/Love seem receptive to re-signing with a competitive Boston team in 2015, that's good enough for me to roll the dice.
And I do think the very small chance that Rondo/Love leave in free agency only really sets the team back one year. Remember, the name of the game is to collect multiple All-Stars. Neither Sullinger nor the 5-7 pick are likely to turn into All-Star-caliber players, nor is trading Rondo going to get you an asset of that magnitude. If you're rebuilding from the bottom-up, midlevel deals aren't that onerous since your cap space is not that useful (bad/rebuilding teams generally don't lure marquee players in free agency, and the assets you get from "renting" your cap space are minor). Yeah, you lose some of the mid-level assets that teams can occasionally cobble together and use to trade for a disgruntled superstar, but only because you already used those assets to trade for a disgruntled superstar.
My philosophy on this whole thing is simple: you don't get too many chances to cobble together a team with multiple young All-Stars. If you think you can do so, absolutely go for it.
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Post by jmei on Mar 5, 2014 21:41:33 GMT -5
Btw Jmei, love that u came down on the AB price tag... Meant to mention that before. I still kind of think his true value is in the $8m range (the blogosphere reaction to that Insider article re: Bradley being worth $4.5m was pretty uniformly something like "I wish" ( example)), and, if push comes to shove, am still probably willing to match an offer that size. But I do think the fact that he's a RFA and will have missed at least a month with an ankle injury probably drops his market a bit. What if the Celtics get a top 3 pick? What then? I still try to see if I can trade for Love using Boston's multitude of other extra picks (the mid-round one this year, future Nets picks) and Sullinger, but Minnesota may be more hesitant to take that deal. I'd be open to trading Rondo, but only for a pretty hefty package (basically what I'd demand for Love if I were Minnesota-- something equivalent to a high lottery pick or two), and I don't think there are many contending teams (i.e., teams where Rondo would probably re-sign) who need a point guard and have those assets. In which case, I'm happy keeping Rondo (and hoping he re-signs). |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 5, 2014 23:09:10 GMT -5
I get your philosophy; where we differ is in 2 areas.
1. I'm not giving up valuable assets for a possible shorter term rental.
2. The rebuild is set back more then a year. The first part of rebuilding is acquiring assets. Trading for Love then losing him and Rondo, gives up about 3 years of asset accumulation. Sully, this years first rounder and the following years first rounder (going from an early to a late pick). The best part about this rebuild is they managed to get a lot of assets already because they didn't just let guys walk.
Now if you get Love and sign him then you have something, especially if you keep the Nets unprotected 1sts from 16-18('17 we get to swap if it's higher so I count that), because I expect the Nets to suck then.
I'm also not sure the trade you laid out works salary wise and you probably need multiple first. However, I understand it was more of a fun exercise then realistic. Minn isn't sending Boston another superstar big man for below market.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 6, 2014 21:02:56 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 6, 2014 21:14:26 GMT -5
Asked if he was surprised by their showing following what Stevens termed "a good practice," Rondo corrects, "I don't feel like it was a good practice."
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Post by bmitchsox on Mar 6, 2014 21:26:24 GMT -5
If were gonna trade Rondo because he won't commit, I think LA could be the perfect matchup if they fall top 5, preferably top 3. The Lakers need Rondo to be able to lure Melo in this offseason, who then lures Love in '15. I feel like Rondo would likely be willing to re sign with Kobe and Melo in a winning organization. Rondo, Wallace for LA '14 1st and Nash. Say they land 3 and we land 4 or 5.. that could be Wiggins and Smart/Exum. Then we deal Green and Bass to a late teen draft-pick team who needs depth like Chicago, Toronto or Atlanta. Maybe Green and Bass for Tor '14 1st, Hayes and Fields or something similar. Then explore Sanders, for something like Bradley + the Clippers and 76ers picks. Then our two later picks could be Selden and Young. That seems to be a solid nucleus that could grow into something pretty special in the near future.
Exum/Nash/Pressey
Selden/Bayless/Johnson
Wiggins/Young
Sullinger/Olynyk/Fields
Sanders/Humphries/Faverani
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