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4/25-4/27 Red Sox @ Blue Jays Series Thread
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 27, 2014 14:30:09 GMT -5
Geez. Didn't know reaching .500 could be such a tall task.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 27, 2014 14:31:53 GMT -5
Let's hope Trey Ball has a good game at least.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Apr 27, 2014 14:43:52 GMT -5
At some point soon the Red Sox are going to have do something to address their significant defensive shortfall at SS. Unfortunately there does not appear to be a viable option on the Red Sox or PawSox roster. The other options include:
-signing Drew to a one year contract
-making a trade or
-promoting Marrero
None of those are ideal options, but they can't stick with the status quo.
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Post by ray88h66 on Apr 27, 2014 14:49:27 GMT -5
I'll take two out of three . With the starters going deep and an off day Monday the bullpen will be back in shape.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 27, 2014 15:02:53 GMT -5
At some point soon the Red Sox are going to have do something to address their significant defensive shortfall at SS. Unfortunately there does not appear to be a viable option on the Red Sox or PawSox roster. The other options include: -signing Drew to a one year contract -making a trade or -promoting Marrero None of those are ideal options, but they can't stick with the status quo. Drew isn't going to sign here for a one year deal. He allegedly has a three year deal on the table. Winning two out of three on the road is very good against any team. I liked a lot of what I saw this series. The Red Sox are going to stick with Bogaerts for at least another month or two probably.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 27, 2014 15:07:59 GMT -5
When the seventh inning started, Lester was at 91 pitches and had retired 10 in a row. When he started against his last batter, he was still only at 112. Any talk that they should've taken him out an inning earlier is pure hindsight. He was cruising until then.
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Post by marrcus on Apr 27, 2014 15:21:58 GMT -5
"Drew isn't going to sign here " --------------------------------------- I think he would in a heartbeat. And be a FA again in 6 months. But it's not happening. For better/worse X is staying put and WMB is too. It looks like Drew will wait out the draft/comp. pick.
This club isn't good enough to sweep yet. Happy with 2/3 for the near term. Still possible to play .500 ball in April but it looks tough (Rays).
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 27, 2014 15:35:46 GMT -5
"Drew isn't going to sign here " --------------------------------------- I think he would in a heartbeat. And be a FA again in 6 months. But it's not happening. For better/worse X is staying put and WMB is too. It looks like Drew will wait out the draft/comp. pick. This club isn't good enough to sweep yet. Happy with 2/3 for the near term. Still possible to play .500 ball in April but it looks tough (Rays). You edited out the rest of my post. I said he wouldn't sign here for one year. If the Red Sox offered him four years he would happily sign. sports.yahoo.com/blogs/big-league-stew/report-scott-boras-says-stephen-drew-three-39-210657171--mlb.html
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 27, 2014 16:15:44 GMT -5
I've been suspecting this is all my fault, and I just went through my scoresheets and confirmed it.
The Sox are 2-10 in games I've watched and scored, and that would have been 2-11 had I not had the Thursday night Yankee loss spoiled for me by an e-mail from MLB (which was frankly a relief) before I sat down to watch the next AM.
In games I decided not to score, they're 10-3. In fact, starting April 16, I've scored (or planned to score) all 5 losses and none of the 7 wins. Yikes!
One or two of the wins I've watched without scoring, and some others I had on at various times ... but, still.
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Post by ray88h66 on Apr 27, 2014 16:41:34 GMT -5
I've been suspecting this is all my fault, and I just went through my scoresheets and confirmed it. The Sox are 2-10 in games I've watched and scored, and that would have been 2-11 had I not had the Thursday night Yankee loss spoiled for me by an e-mail from MLB (which was frankly a relief) before I sat down to watch the next AM. In games I decided not to score, they're 10-3. In fact, starting April 16, I've scored (or planned to score) all 5 losses and none of the 7 wins. Yikes! One or two of the wins I've watched without scoring, and some others I had on at various times ... but, still. LOL. I shamefully admit to scoring games off the radio in the 60's and 70's.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 27, 2014 17:00:17 GMT -5
I've been suspecting this is all my fault, and I just went through my scoresheets and confirmed it. The Sox are 2-10 in games I've watched and scored, and that would have been 2-11 had I not had the Thursday night Yankee loss spoiled for me by an e-mail from MLB (which was frankly a relief) before I sat down to watch the next AM. In games I decided not to score, they're 10-3. In fact, starting April 16, I've scored (or planned to score) all 5 losses and none of the 7 wins. Yikes! One or two of the wins I've watched without scoring, and some others I had on at various times ... but, still. LOL. I shamefully admit to scoring games off the radio in the 60's and 70's. Thats actually pretty cool. Especially if you still have some of them.
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Post by ray88h66 on Apr 27, 2014 17:36:42 GMT -5
LOL. I shamefully admit to scoring games off the radio in the 60's and 70's. Thats actually pretty cool. Especially if you still have some of them. Nah, girls, booze, and drugs came into the picture. Mom threw everything out when I wasn't looking, along with bags and bags off baseball cards. My Yaz rookie card was in plastic and still survives.
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 27, 2014 19:11:24 GMT -5
LOL. I shamefully admit to scoring games off the radio in the 60's and 70's. Thats actually pretty cool. Especially if you still have some of them. I have a school-style three-subject spiral notebook for the 1978 season. The front section has continually updated rosters of every MLB team, with transactions listed by date, then there's a two-column Sox game log (including starting pitcher and pitcher of record, done with abbreviations), followed by scorecards for 92 games and box scores clipped from the Globe for the other 71. And then the back has game logs for all the players. I apparently brought this notebook to the ballpark for game 163, because it's scored directly into it. This was basically the equivalent of having the Internet, in terms of information handy. The 1979 version, which I'd forgotten about, was abandoned after game 118. And something I hadn't looked at in years -- my 1975 scorecard folder (I'd just draw columns freehand on any lined piece of paper, BTW). I found the scorecards for games 2 and 6 of the WS, again written on notebook paper even though I was at the games ... I just realized that I put the folder back in the filing cabinet without looking at game 7! And I'm amused to see that I already was using my current system for scoring outstanding plays back then, as Dewey's Game 6 catch got one full and one half-sized exclamation point. When I get my website going, I think I'll scan some of these pages and throw them up there.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 27, 2014 20:08:29 GMT -5
Thats actually pretty cool. Especially if you still have some of them. I have a school-style three-subject spiral notebook for the 1978 season. The front section has continually updated rosters of every MLB team, with transactions listed by date, then there's a two-column Sox game log (including starting pitcher and pitcher of record, done with abbreviations), followed by scorecards for 92 games and box scores clipped from the Globe for the other 71. And then the back has game logs for all the players. I apparently brought this notebook to the ballpark for game 163, because it's scored directly into it. This was basically the equivalent of having the Internet, in terms of information handy. The 1979 version, which I'd forgotten about, was abandoned after game 118. And something I hadn't looked at in years -- my 1975 scorecard folder (I'd just draw columns freehand on any lined piece of paper, BTW). I found the scorecards for games 2 and 6 of the WS, again written on notebook paper even though I was at the games ... I just realized that I put the folder back in the filing cabinet without looking at game 7! And I'm amused to see that I already was using my current system for scoring outstanding plays back then, as Dewey's Game 6 catch got one full and one half-sized exclamation point. When I get my website going, I think I'll scan some of these pages and throw them up there. Thats really cool. Makes me want to do something like that!
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Post by godot on Apr 28, 2014 8:25:04 GMT -5
Informative piece by Bradford on Bradley's rough start with the bat. There is the usual Pedoria's start analogy, along with the amount of time For Ortiz to hit his stride. But there was this little gem:
And Pedroia's career momentum really didn't get going until after working with former Red Sox hitting coach Dave Magadan to find a subtle flaw in his swing set-up in early May 2007, with the subsequent fix immediately yielding two hits off then-Minnesota ace Johan Santana.
In other words, his start was also related to a flaw, but Magadan found and helped him fix it. Magadan is now with Texas and doing a good job. The team is now showing patience and taking patience. This approach helped them get to King Felix.
Don't believe Dustin kd as much as Jr, in his slow start, whatever that means. But agree that we just need to let him play and see how it plays out. Besides, we do not have any other option for center-field, and he is helping to win some games out there. There is some chatter that the Sox may pull off a trade, but doubt it.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 28, 2014 9:15:26 GMT -5
Thats actually pretty cool. Especially if you still have some of them. I have a school-style three-subject spiral notebook for the 1978 season. The front section has continually updated rosters of every MLB team, with transactions listed by date, then there's a two-column Sox game log (including starting pitcher and pitcher of record, done with abbreviations), followed by scorecards for 92 games and box scores clipped from the Globe for the other 71. And then the back has game logs for all the players. I apparently brought this notebook to the ballpark for game 163, because it's scored directly into it. This was basically the equivalent of having the Internet, in terms of information handy. The 1979 version, which I'd forgotten about, was abandoned after game 118. And something I hadn't looked at in years -- my 1975 scorecard folder (I'd just draw columns freehand on any lined piece of paper, BTW). I found the scorecards for games 2 and 6 of the WS, again written on notebook paper even though I was at the games ... I just realized that I put the folder back in the filing cabinet without looking at game 7! And I'm amused to see that I already was using my current system for scoring outstanding plays back then, as Dewey's Game 6 catch got one full and one half-sized exclamation point. When I get my website going, I think I'll scan some of these pages and throw them up there. Sounds almost as obsessive as me playing entire seasons of APBA. I had an entire wall of my bedroom lined with cork which I kept the standings and stat leaders on as well as tons of box scores in notebooks.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 28, 2014 9:26:27 GMT -5
At some point soon the Red Sox are going to have do something to address their significant defensive shortfall at SS. Unfortunately there does not appear to be a viable option on the Red Sox or PawSox roster. The other options include: - signing Drew to a one year contract-making a trade or -promoting Marrero None of those are ideal options, but they can't stick with the status quo. Even if they did this, he'd need 3 or so weeks of minor league games to get ready. He'd also pull a hammy in his last minor league game adding another 20 days.
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Post by ramireja on Apr 28, 2014 10:44:35 GMT -5
Guys, I'm well aware of the Boras "quote," but can we put to bed the possibility that Drew has a 3 year deal on the table? First off, the quote doesn't come from Boras directly, but instead was reported by Gammons who has tweeted some questionable stuff in the past. Either Boras lied or was misinterpreted. Either way, Drew doesn't have that offer, and we need to stop letting it impact our perception of what it would take to get Drew back on the field.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 28, 2014 10:50:53 GMT -5
Yeah Drew definitely doesn't have 3/39 on the table. Maybe he did at one point but if it was still there it would be plain stupid not to take it.
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Post by danr on Apr 28, 2014 11:41:09 GMT -5
He was stupid not to take the $14 million that he had in hand. Greed is not good.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 28, 2014 12:37:27 GMT -5
Guys, I'm well aware of the Boras "quote," but can we put to bed the possibility that Drew has a 3 year deal on the table? First off, the quote doesn't come from Boras directly, but instead was reported by Gammons who has tweeted some questionable stuff in the past. Either Boras lied or was misinterpreted. Either way, Drew doesn't have that offer, and we need to stop letting it impact our perception of what it would take to get Drew back on the field. I don't really believe it either but thats why I said allegedly. Its boras' classic mystery team tactic.
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