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Post by okin15 on Jun 17, 2014 15:03:46 GMT -5
Really, Ross and Gomes against RHP! I know Ross is Lester's binkie, and I know that you want to rest JBJ, but do you have to do both on the same night? Not to mention, that's a bit of a scary OF defensively, especially in Fenway. The Holt in CF experiment makes more sense when he can be flanked by Victorino.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 17, 2014 15:07:12 GMT -5
I think it's mostly that Gomes is a better matchup for Hughes than Bradley. Hughes is a fairly hard thrower who lives (dangerously) up in the zone. He probably eats up Bradley, but that's the sort of righty I'm ok with giving Gomes a shot against.
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Post by marrcus on Jun 17, 2014 15:09:22 GMT -5
I know JBJ doesn't hit, but with his defensive value he is still more valuable...Gomes
Hurt? Mental health break? Day off?
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 17, 2014 15:09:47 GMT -5
I'm questioning the positioning. Why Gomes over Bradley against RHP? Wouldn't be as big of a deal if we didn't have an infielder starting in CF. Mentioned this in another thread, but Hughes is a hard-throwing righty who lives up in the zone and gives up homers. Given Bradley's struggles with hard stuff I think it's worth it in this case to see if Gomes can get ahold of one.
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Post by mredsox89 on Jun 17, 2014 15:14:29 GMT -5
Hughes' splits are fairly similar over his career vs. RHH/LHH, so if they are comfortable with Holt in CF, I have no issue with Gomes starting today
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Post by jmei on Jun 17, 2014 15:23:22 GMT -5
Really, Ross and Gomes against RHP! I know Ross is Lester's binkie, and I know that you want to rest JBJ, but do you have to do both on the same night? I see this argument a lot-- that a manager shouldn't give two starters a game off at the same time-- but I'm not sure it holds up. There isn't any sort of multiplicative effect that comes with having multiple backups in your lineup. Giving two starters the day off on the same day versus doing so on separate days should be pretty much identical from a game odds perspective (i.e., hurt your odds of winning by 1% on two separate days versus hurt your odds of winning by 2% on one day), right?
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 17, 2014 15:25:15 GMT -5
brianmacp Brian MacPherson Part of the reason the Red Sox let Sizemore go now rather than when Victorino returned, Farrell said, was out of courtesy to Sizemore... 8 minutes ago
Yeah, right, Farrell. I'm sure it had NOTHING to do with the fact that Sizemore was already at 205 PA...
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 17, 2014 16:10:10 GMT -5
brianmacp Brian MacPherson Part of the reason the Red Sox let Sizemore go now rather than when Victorino returned, Farrell said, was out of courtesy to Sizemore... 8 minutes ago Yeah, right, Farrell. I'm sure it had NOTHING to do with the fact that Sizemore was already at 205 PA... LOL yeah. Please be rude and give me 20 more PA for $250k. And then maybe another 25.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 17, 2014 16:11:56 GMT -5
Does anyone have an answer to this? It seems like the smart move would be if Workman was to be suspended and it would take a roster spot, to option him now and recall when he come is reinstated, that is legal... I am guessing that the suspended days don't count towards the 15 days a player needs to stay in the minors. According to this, an optioned player would not count for a spot on the 25-man active roster. However, I imagine that it would be poor form to appeal a suspension and then option the player in question right before that appeal is resolved. That would be a pretty bald-faced attempt to get around the punitive effect of having to keep a suspended player on the 25-man active roster.Which is kind of what a complete BS suspension calls for.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 17, 2014 16:21:03 GMT -5
I wonder what their intentions with Sizemore are? Release or AAA if no one claims him?
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 17, 2014 16:29:37 GMT -5
I don't see why they wouldn't stash him in AAA. It's not like he'd be taking playing time away from Brentz right now...
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 17, 2014 16:30:58 GMT -5
I don't see why they wouldn't stash him in AAA. It's not like he'd be taking playing time away from Brentz right now... I imagine it will be up to him.
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Post by burythehammer on Jun 17, 2014 16:40:33 GMT -5
brianmacp Brian MacPherson Part of the reason the Red Sox let Sizemore go now rather than when Victorino returned, Farrell said, was out of courtesy to Sizemore... 8 minutes ago Yeah, right, Farrell. I'm sure it had NOTHING to do with the fact that Sizemore was already at 205 PA... LOL yeah. Please be rude and give me 20 more PA for $250k. And then maybe another 25. Yeah I can't believe John Farrell didn't say this publicly and cause a gigantic shitstorm with the player's association. What does he take us for, idiots?!
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Post by Guidas on Jun 17, 2014 17:00:13 GMT -5
Brock Holt, CF Xander Bogaerts, 3B Dustin Pedroia, 2B David Ortiz, DH Mike Napoli, 1B Daniel Nava, RF Jonny Gomes, LF Stephen Drew, SS David Ross, C If you predicted that the Sox would ever use this lineup at the beginning of the season, you probably live in one of the nicer hotels in Vegas. Or you were very drunk at the time. I'm questioning the positioning. Why Gomes over Bradley against RHP? Wouldn't be as big of a deal if we didn't have an infielder starting in CF. Add: must want to get Holt some exposure. I know JBJ doesn't hit, but with his defensive value he is still more valuable than Gomes against RHP. Asking a "why is Gomes playing when it makes no logical sense with this scenario" make no logical sense with this manager. The answer to all Gomes questions is simply "John Farrell Manlove."
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Post by Guidas on Jun 17, 2014 17:04:37 GMT -5
Does anyone have an answer to this? It seems like the smart move would be if Workman was to be suspended and it would take a roster spot, to option him now and recall when he come is reinstated, that is legal... I am guessing that the suspended days don't count towards the 15 days a player needs to stay in the minors. According to this, an optioned player would not count for a spot on the 25-man active roster. However, I imagine that it would be poor form to appeal a suspension and then option the player in question right before that appeal is resolved. That would be a pretty bald-faced attempt to get around the punitive effect of having to keep a suspended player on the 25-man active roster.And this is a bad thing why? I mean really, the complete arbitrary nature of these suspension merits a game theory response like this. Plus you'll be doing MLB a favor as they can tighten up that rule in the off-season.
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Post by jmei on Jun 17, 2014 17:14:01 GMT -5
As in life, doing something that annoys your boss' boss is generally inadvisable.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jun 17, 2014 17:36:41 GMT -5
I think it's mostly that Gomes is a better matchup for Hughes than Bradley. Hughes is a fairly hard thrower who lives (dangerously) up in the zone. He probably eats up Bradley, but that's the sort of righty I'm ok with giving Gomes a shot against. Doesn't Hughes have both the platoon advantages against Gomes? Righty against righty, fly ball against fly ball?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jun 17, 2014 17:40:49 GMT -5
Brock Holt, CF Xander Bogaerts, 3B Dustin Pedroia, 2B David Ortiz, DH Mike Napoli, 1B Daniel Nava, RF Jonny Gomes, LF Stephen Drew, SS David Ross, C If you predicted that the Sox would ever use this lineup at the beginning of the season, you probably live in one of the nicer hotels in Vegas. Or you were very drunk at the time. I'm questioning the positioning. Why Gomes over Bradley against RHP? Wouldn't be as big of a deal if we didn't have an infielder starting in CF. Add: must want to get Holt some exposure.I know JBJ doesn't hit, but with his defensive value he is still more valuable than Gomes against RHP. Between Gomes and Nava? I'd say they want to get him all the exposure.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 17, 2014 17:51:03 GMT -5
As in life, doing something that annoys your boss' boss is generally inadvisable. As in here, I can't keep my mouth shut when something needs to be said, so I annoy my bosses constantly. As long as I'm right. My coworkers appreciate it. So I'd take on the MLB like that.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 17, 2014 17:52:03 GMT -5
I think it's mostly that Gomes is a better matchup for Hughes than Bradley. Hughes is a fairly hard thrower who lives (dangerously) up in the zone. He probably eats up Bradley, but that's the sort of righty I'm ok with giving Gomes a shot against. Doesn't Hughes have both the platoon advantages against Gomes? Righty against righty, fly ball against fly ball? Fly ball pitcher isn't a good thing against a fly ball hitter.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 17, 2014 18:12:02 GMT -5
Ah, it's the rookie umpire at the plate. That explains why they need David Ross ... to teach him the strike zone.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 17, 2014 18:30:06 GMT -5
Lester on pace for 3.2 IP. It's as if we were playing against the 2013 Red Sox.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 17, 2014 18:36:11 GMT -5
So, the ZiPS RoS projection for Brock Holt is still 84 wRC+.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 17, 2014 18:55:47 GMT -5
I think Stephen Drew is up to speed with major league pitching now.
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Post by theaveragefan88 on Jun 17, 2014 18:56:46 GMT -5
Drew is swinging a hot bat right now!
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