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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 2, 2016 2:17:53 GMT -5
Very nice win. Now let's keep it going and get a top 4 seed.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 2, 2016 2:33:11 GMT -5
So rumors about Russell swirling... I hate the kind of crap that he did and the reason rumors are swirling is because the team hates him, but man is he talented. Would u trade Smart and the Dallas pick for him? I think you have to, but I wouldn't trade any of the Nets picks I would pass. Smart fits this team like a glove with his D first approach. Russell is the complete opposite and man what he did will take years to go away if it ever does. He could kill this teams chemistry.
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Post by jmei on Apr 2, 2016 9:14:28 GMT -5
That second half was one of the most fun stretches of basketball I've seen in a long time. The atmosphere in that stadium was electric. Here's the full highlights:
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 2, 2016 11:43:53 GMT -5
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Post by ianrs on Apr 3, 2016 18:28:19 GMT -5
To supplement jmei's post, here is a pretty great video showing highlights from different angles in slow motion. Really shows the teams battling with an intense focus.
Some of the fans reactions towards the end of the game are pretty great too.
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Post by telson13 on Apr 3, 2016 20:23:37 GMT -5
What a fun team to watch. Far greater than the sum of its parts. Love the tenacious D. Playoffs should be quite a show, as will the upcoming draft.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 3, 2016 23:20:18 GMT -5
Thon Maker declares for draft, NBA must rule if is allowed to stay in. Very interesting player with massive upside. If he is allowed to stay in draft it only makes the draft deeper.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Apr 4, 2016 5:32:55 GMT -5
Thon Maker declares for draft, NBA must rule if is allowed to stay in. Very interesting player with massive upside. If he is allowed to stay in draft it only makes the draft deeper. Looks like he's more of a second round flyer. Probably doesn't change a ton, but he's a solid target with 31 or 35.
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Post by thebogeyman on Apr 4, 2016 9:14:24 GMT -5
Thon Maker declares for draft, NBA must rule if is allowed to stay in. Very interesting player with massive upside. If he is allowed to stay in draft it only makes the draft deeper. Looks like he's more of a second round flyer. Probably doesn't change a ton, but he's a solid target with 31 or 35. Updated mock on ESPN has Celts snagging him with its third first-rounder. He is definitely they type of player the Celts can target (maybe even a little earlier than most teams would) given their draft assets. Sounds like the upside is very high, but he is raw and needs to add strength. All that said, it seems 50-50 or worse that he'll be allowed to remain in the draft.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 4, 2016 12:11:47 GMT -5
This draft class is terrible outside the very top. No way he lasts until the latter part of the first round and that is on the off chance he's even allowed to enter the draft, of which I'm heavily skeptic.
Great name though.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 4, 2016 14:43:55 GMT -5
This draft class is terrible outside the very top. No way he lasts until the latter part of the first round and that is on the off chance he's even allowed to enter the draft, of which I'm heavily skeptic. Great name though. Not sure how you can say draft class is terrible outside the very top with not evening knowing yet who declares for draft. There are a bunch of underclassmen that could add depth to this class if they declare. Also Dallas pick could be a late lottery pick, at worst a mid first round pick. We have the assets to move up if we wanted to and another team was willing to move down. I wanted to add that scouting reports are all over the place with Maker. The one that stands out to me is comparing him to a young KG, when watching Maker that Comp makes sense. If allowed to stay in Draft his workouts will be huge.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 4, 2016 14:46:14 GMT -5
Thon Maker declares for draft, NBA must rule if is allowed to stay in. Very interesting player with massive upside. If he is allowed to stay in draft it only makes the draft deeper. Looks like he's more of a second round flyer. Probably doesn't change a ton, but he's a solid target with 31 or 35. I would be shocked with his size and upside if he wasn't a first round pick.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 7, 2016 6:40:43 GMT -5
I don't see how he can be eligible for the draft considering he's not a year removed from high school. He's a year removed from his fourth year of high school... Ha! Anyways, it should be interesting how they rule; nothing would surprise me but considering the NBA wants to increase the age limit I don't think they will be willingly letting him into the draft.
If the Celtics don't get Ingram/Simmons, which they likely won't, the next best guy for them is Hield. In my opinion he's like s perfect fit. He's mature ready to play and a shooter which is exactly what they need. Turner can walk and Hield can take his rotation spot and fill arguably a better need.
I know Simmons is the better "prospect" but I don't like his game much. I want Ingram first and Hield second.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 7, 2016 13:19:50 GMT -5
Hield is gone before Celtics pick at nbadraft.net. Sure he seems like a good fit he just worries me a ton. After 3 years he was seen as early second late first round pick and now is seen as top 5 pick. For me I can't wait to see how he does at combine. What type of athlete is he? That will go a long way towards my thinking if Celtics should take him.
I just think a big that can score, rebound and defend is our biggest need. But this is NBA and you have to take best player.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 7, 2016 16:06:34 GMT -5
Wanted to add my top pick is Simmons, then Ingram and it's not even close. After that it's a lot harder, with Bender, Murray, Hield, Ellenson and Dunn all really a toss up at this point for me. Then you have Brown, Chriss, and Poeltl not that far behind. With so many players so close I feel combine is going to be huge this year.
Assuming we get 4th pick and Simmons, Ingram and Bender are all gone. I'm currently looking at Ellenson, Murray and Dunn in that order. It might shock some people that I would take Murray and Dunn over Heild but they can both play pg, where Heild can't. Murray's a great shooter and gets to rim and can finish better then Heild. Dunn with his great D would fit like a glove with Celtics. He has great size for pg, great athlete, and good passer. He is a very streaky 3 point shooter though, but he is a scorer.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 8, 2016 9:29:19 GMT -5
I'd be fine with Murray; I like his game and see the argument for him of Hield and I may even change my mind on the two.
The guy I hate is Brown. Want nothing to do with him.
If they get the first pick, I hope they choose Ingram over Simmons, at this point. I don't maybe I'll change my tune, but give me the shooter. I know Simmons is a freak talent but when your biggest questions are shooting and your compete level that's not what I want with my first overall pick when I got a choice like Ingram sitting there. Now I feel Danny will vet the compete level piece so if he goes with it I'll trust him but to me for an NBA player the compete level is perhaps the most important aspect behind talent of course. Both guys have talent and one is a known competitor.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 8, 2016 14:47:42 GMT -5
I agree I don't want Brown with our first pick, too much risk. That being said the guy is a freak athlete, 6'7'' SF, with a 7'1'' wingspan. If he can improve handle and jump shot he could be one of best players in Draft long term.
With Simmons I don't get the knock for shooting if he's going to play PF. Simmons per was better then Heild this year at 29.56, while Ingram had a 22.50. Compete level? You talking motor or the fact that he can be too unselfish? The guy had a higher per then the college player of the year runner up, so I find anything about his compete level as crazy talk. All this talk has to do with wins, people thought LSU should have won more games with a player like Simmons. I just laugh at that, look at that team, it just wasn't that good. I feel if Ingram and Simmons switched places Duke still goes to tourney and LSU doesn't. Only reason why anyone really thinks Simmons isn't clear #1 is ESPN has been debating that for months. Scouts have said same thing all year, Simmons is clear cut #1. Heck even Chad Ford as he's debating who should be #1 says scouts still see Simmons #1.
I also think Simmons would be a better fit, as he would replace Johnson or Sullinger, while Ingram would replace Crowder. Simmons would really improve our front court scoring, rebounding, D and passing.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 8, 2016 19:10:27 GMT -5
I'm just going off the scouting reports with regards to Simmons compete level and work ethic. I'm not gonna debate it because none of us really know but that's my biggest concern with NBA players but if DA thinks it's fine then I'll buy it but it's a flag.
Simmons isn't this great low post scorer and he can't shoot. He's good in transition and as a ball handler and distributor but it's not as if he's this big power forward who dominates the block although he could develop that should he have the killer instinct to do so. That's in question tho.
I disagree that Ingram replaces crowder. They can play together the NBA is different now positionally.
I get very biased against NBA players who can't shoot and who have questionable work ethics/motivation.
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Post by jmei on Apr 8, 2016 19:56:56 GMT -5
I just did a quick Google search and could not find any credible reports questioning Simmons' work ethic. Competitiveness, maybe, but nothing about work ethic, and those are two very different things.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 9, 2016 1:11:28 GMT -5
Looking at scouting reports from ESPN, nbadraft.net and draft express this is what they say; ESPN says his motor runs hot and cold, nbadraft.net says he has desire and work ethic to become a gym rat, they also call him a hard working kid.
Draft express is very negative and only one that brings up his competitiveness. They say his lack of defensive effort towards end of year raised questions among scouts about his competitiveness. They then say he was unfairly labled as a generational talent, right after saying he is first player in college to average over 19 points, 11 rebounds and 4 assist in a season since 1984. Call me crazy but a freshman doing something that hasn't been done in 30 plus years sure seems like a generational player.
Simmons averaged 19.2 points, 11.8 rebounds, 4.8 assists, .8 blocks, and 2 steals a game. He shot 56% from field and 67% from the line. He got to the line 9 times a game.
A lack of defensive effort is not a huge worry to me. I really blame it on his team, they were a mess. Look at Wiggins college stats and what he's now doing. Simmons is a special talent.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 9, 2016 7:41:38 GMT -5
No doubt he's a special talent and I'd love to have the kid. I'm talking between him and Ingram only. That's good to know regarding the work ethic now I just hope he's not a Joe Johnson "competitor" type. I want killer instinct from my best talent. I just pray for either of them. Number two pick takes any decision making out if it ha.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 9, 2016 22:20:15 GMT -5
The Brooklyn pick has almost a 50% shot of being a top 3 pick now with the Suns winning two straight.
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 10, 2016 9:11:57 GMT -5
The Brooklyn pick has almost a 50% shot of being a top 3 pick now with the Suns winning two straight. If you are talking about finishing with the third worst record, I think the odds are higher than that. Brooklyn is now 1/2 game behind Phoenix and has 3 games remaining: ...at Indiana and home to Washington and Toronto. They have rested their two best players in Lopez and Young for the remainder of the season. Reasonably the only game they have a chance at winning is the Washington game...unless opponents also rest players. Phoenix has 2 games remaining: at home with the Kings and Clippers. The Sacramento game is a possible win. If you are talking about the likelihood of getting a pick in the top three if Brooklyn finishes with the third worst record, the chance of getting a top three pick is 42.5%. If Brooklyn ends up with the 4th worst record, that % drops to 39.7% If Phoenix and Brooklyn end up with the same records, how is the pick sequence decided?...coin flip? strength of schedule? other? As to Thon Maker, Chad Ford on ESPN Insider has an in depth article with no consensus as to possible draft position...some scouts say he could be a lottery pick and, at the back end...others say a second rounder. The feeling of some is that he is "2 years away from being 2 years away" as a productive player. Whether he will be eligible for the draft is another question of course. The crux is whether he will be considered an international player. He lives in Canada but played two years of ball in the U.S.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Apr 10, 2016 12:00:05 GMT -5
If BKN has the third worst record the odds of getting a top three pick are 46.9% (15.6% #1, 15.7% #2, 15.6% #3).
Fourth worst record is a 37.8% chance of top three.
If it is a tie, the odds are 41.8% for both teams because they would just split up the balls.
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 10, 2016 12:46:21 GMT -5
If BKN has the third worst record the odds of getting a top three pick are 46.9% (15.6% #1, 15.7% #2, 15.6% #3). Fourth worst record is a 37.8% chance of top three. If it is a tie, the odds are 41.8% for both teams because they would just split up the balls. Interesting. I got my percentages from ESPN....
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