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Patriots Offseason Thread
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Post by xxdamgoodxx on Aug 3, 2013 12:17:01 GMT -5
Guys, I have a real shocking training camp development. Ras-I Dowling is hurt.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 4, 2013 14:56:58 GMT -5
Fisher and Tuinei waived and placed on IR.
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Post by semperfisox on Aug 5, 2013 10:44:56 GMT -5
Guys, I have a real shocking training camp development. Ras-I Dowling is hurt. How is this not on CNN right now?! I hate him. |
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Post by xxdamgoodxx on Aug 6, 2013 12:49:27 GMT -5
How is this not on CNN right now?! I hate him. It's just sad that Ras-I is so fragile. From all reports he isn't the lockdown corner that the Pats hoped he'd be, but that he was still a good DB because of his length and athletic ability. He just is made of glass and I'd hate to be him, knowing that I am a talented DB with a chance at a long, lucrative, and productive NFL career and I just can't stay on the field. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 7, 2013 20:20:54 GMT -5
How is this not on CNN right now?! I hate him. It's just sad that Ras-I is so fragile. From all reports he isn't the lockdown corner that the Pats hoped he'd be, but that he was still a good DB because of his length and athletic ability. He just is made of glass and I'd hate to be him, knowing that I am a talented DB with a chance at a long, lucrative, and productive NFL career and I just can't stay on the field. He was like that at UVA too. Unreal. |
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Post by semperfisox on Aug 8, 2013 11:30:26 GMT -5
I work nights so I'm going to miss the game tomorrow night. Really wanted to see Dobson, Boyce and Thompkins.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 9, 2013 18:53:42 GMT -5
LOOOOOOL @ Patriots Preseason Network
"We have Will Svitek, the rookie from Rutgers, at right guard."
Well, it was a reasonable guess, I suppose.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 9, 2013 19:26:11 GMT -5
WTF is wrong with this commentator... "Ben Vereen", "Jason Collins"...
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 9, 2013 20:32:59 GMT -5
Blount looks sharp so far if he keeps this up and makes the team the Patriots could have a top-5 RB group easily.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 9, 2013 20:46:44 GMT -5
Yup, if any RB gets cut it's gonna be Bolden.
Tebow, on the other hand... ugh.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 9, 2013 21:47:46 GMT -5
Liked:
Blount
Vereen
Sudfeld
Thompkins
Kelly
Didn't like:
Dobson
Bolden
T. Wilson
Rivera
Various other 3rd unit defenders
Hated:
Tebow
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 13, 2013 16:32:26 GMT -5
Current roster (84, limit is 90). Age in parentheses. Projection to make the roster in black, to begin on PUP in green, to begin on practice squad in orange and to be cut in red.
QB (3): Tom Brady (35), Ryan Mallett (24), Tim Tebow (25)
RB/FB (6): Stevan Ridley (24), Shane Vereen (24), Leon Washington (30), LaGarrett Blount (26), James Develin (24), Brandon Bolden (23)
WR (5): Danny Amendola (27), Julian Edelman (26), Matthew Slater (27), Kamar Aiken (23), Johnathan Haggerty (25)
TE (4): Jake Ballard (25), Michael Hoomanawanui (24), Rob Gronkowski (23)(PUP but projected to be on 53-man roster), Daniel Fells (29)
T (4): Nate Solder (24), Sebastian Vollmer (28), Will Svitek (31), Markus Zusevics (23)
G/C (5): Logan Mankins (31), Dan Connolly (30), Ryan Wendell (27), Marcus Cannon (24), Luke Patterson (25)
DL (4): Vince Wilfork (30), Tommy Kelly (32), Marcus Forston (23), Armond Armstead (22)(non-football illness)
DE/OLB (6): Rob Ninkovich (29), Chandler Jones (23), Justin Francis (24), Marcus Benard (27), Jake Bequette (23), Jermaine Cunningham (24)
LB (7): Jerod Mayo (27), Dont'a Hightower (23), Brandon Spikes (25), Dane Fletcher (26), Jeff Tarpinian (25), Mike Rivera (27), Niko Koutouvides (31)
CB (6): Aqib Talib (27), Alfonzo Dennard (23), Kyle Arrington (25), Marquice Cole (29), Ras-I Dowling (24), LeQuan Lewis (24)
S (5): Devin McCourty (25), Adrian Wilson (33), Steve Gregory (30), Nate Ebner (23), Tavon Wilson (22)
ST (3): Stephen Gostkowski (29) (K), Zoltan Mesko (27) (P), Danny Aiken (24) (LS)
Draft picks (7):
LB Jamie Collins (23)
WR Aaron Dobson (21)
CB Logan Ryan (22)
S Duron Harmon (22)
WR Josh Boyce (21)
DE Michael Buchanan (22)
LB Steve Beauharnais (22)
Undrafted free agents (19):
CB Brandon Jones (23)
CB Justin Green (22)
S Kanorris Davis (23)
DT Cory Grissom (23)
DT Joe Vellano (24)
DT Anthony Rashad White (23)
FB Ben Bartholomew (23)
RB George Winn (22)
WR Kenbrell Thompkins (24)
WR Mark Harrison (22)
WR Quentin Sims (23)
TE Zach Sudfeld (24)
TE Evan Landi (23)
OL Chris McDonald (23)
OL Matt Stankiewitch (23)
OL Josh Kline (23)
OL Brice Schwab (23)
LS Mike Zupancic (23)
P Ryan Allen (23)
Injured reserve (2):
WR T.J. Moe (22)
OL Tyronne Green (27)
Unrestricted FA:
Josh Barrett (28), Deion Branch (33), Jamey Richard (28), Trevor Scott (28), Donte Stallworth (32), Tracy White (31)
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Post by rangoon82 on Aug 14, 2013 17:01:24 GMT -5
Crazy. Hope you're OK, TFB.
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Aug 15, 2013 5:14:14 GMT -5
TB12 is fine according to multiple sources. Disaster likely avoided.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 15, 2013 13:41:12 GMT -5
Green to IR, Haslam and Jenkins released. Roster at 87.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 15, 2013 17:12:07 GMT -5
TB12 is fine according to multiple sources. Disaster likely avoided. ESPN was on Teabow alert yesterday. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 17, 2013 12:19:31 GMT -5
For those in the know... How is the WR pecking order looking like as the preseason advances?
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Post by jmei on Aug 17, 2013 12:27:18 GMT -5
Looks like:
Amendola
Thompkins
Edelman
Dobson
Boyce
With the caveat that the 2-4 slots appear fairly close and might be interchangeable, depending on the situation (i.e., Dobson in the red zone, Edelman between the 20s).
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 18, 2013 20:32:31 GMT -5
Snaps played with TB12 in preseason game 2 according to ESPNBoston:
Thompkins 21
Amendola 20
Boyce 9
Edelman 4
Dobson 2
So perhaps it's actually 3-5 on jmei's chart which are close, not 2-4.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 25, 2013 8:42:55 GMT -5
Cutdowns to 75 due by 5pm on Tuesday, August 27. Patriots are currently at 84.
Updated projections are above.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 26, 2013 11:47:31 GMT -5
WR Kamar Aiken, CB Brandon Jones, LB Niko Koutouvides, CB LeQuan Lewis, LS Mike Zupancic released.
DL Cory Grissom & OL Markus Zusevics to injured reserve.
DL Armond Armstead & WR Mark Harrison to reserve/NFI list.
CB Stephon Morris & DL Scott Vallone re-signed.
Roster at 77. Full list to come.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 26, 2013 11:51:12 GMT -5
Current roster (75, roster limit is 75). Age in parentheses. Projection to make the roster in black, to begin on PUP in green, to begin on practice squad in orange and to be cut in red.
QB (3): Tom Brady (35), Ryan Mallett (24), Tim Tebow (25)
RB/FB (6): Stevan Ridley (24), Shane Vereen (24), Leon Washington (30), LaGarrett Blount (26), James Develin (24), Brandon Bolden (23)
WR (4): Danny Amendola (27), Julian Edelman (26), Matthew Slater (27), Johnathan Haggerty (25)
TE (4): Jake Ballard (25), Michael Hoomanawanui (24), Rob Gronkowski (23)(PUP but projected to be on 53-man roster), Daniel Fells (29)
T (3): Nate Solder (24), Sebastian Vollmer (28), Will Svitek (31)
G/C (5): Logan Mankins (31), Dan Connolly (30), Ryan Wendell (27), Marcus Cannon (24), Luke Patterson (25)
DL (3): Vince Wilfork (30), Tommy Kelly (32), Marcus Forston (23)
DE/OLB (6): Rob Ninkovich (29), Chandler Jones (23), Justin Francis (24), Marcus Benard (27), Jake Bequette (23), Jermaine Cunningham (24)
LB (6): Jerod Mayo (27), Dont'a Hightower (23), Brandon Spikes (25), Dane Fletcher (26), Jeff Tarpinian (25), Mike Rivera (27)
CB (5): Aqib Talib (27), Alfonzo Dennard (23), Kyle Arrington (25), Marquice Cole (29), Ras-I Dowling (24)
S (5): Devin McCourty (25), Adrian Wilson (33), Steve Gregory (30), Nate Ebner (23), Tavon Wilson (22)
ST (3): Stephen Gostkowski (29) (K), Zoltan Mesko (27) (P), Danny Aiken (24) (LS)
Draft picks (7):
LB Jamie Collins (23)
WR Aaron Dobson (21)
CB Logan Ryan (22)
S Duron Harmon (22)
WR Josh Boyce (21)
DE Michael Buchanan (22)
LB Steve Beauharnais (22)
Undrafted free agents (16):
CB Stephon Morris (22)
CB Justin Green (22)
S Kanorris Davis (23)
DT Joe Vellano (24)
DT Gilbert Pena (26)
DT Scott Vallone (23)
FB Ben Bartholomew (23)
RB George Winn (22)
WR Kenbrell Thompkins (24)
WR Quentin Sims (23)
TE Zach Sudfeld (24)
OL Chris McDonald (23)
OL Matt Stankiewitch (23)
OL Josh Kline (23)
P Ryan Allen (23)
Injured reserve (out for year) (5):
WR T.J. Moe (22)
OL Tyronne Green (27)
OL Markus Zusevics (23)
OL Brice Schwab (23)
DT Cory Grissom (23)
Reserve/NFI (cannot practice until after week 6) (2):
DE Armond Armstead (22)
WR Mark Harrison (22)
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Post by texs31 on Aug 28, 2013 8:00:04 GMT -5
Some thoughts on guys fighting for the final spots:
QB: Tim Tebow - his only shot is to have a great game on Thursday and I just don't see that happening.
RB/FB/TE: Leon Washington, Brandon Bolden, Legarrette Blount, James Develin and Michael Hoomanawanui - I'm lumping them together bc I believe they could all impact each other. Despite some folks picking him as the "surprise cut", I think Washington makes the team. While there are other guys who could return kicks and leadership alone is not enough to keep a guy (Yeah, I'm talking about you Tebow), his role as a backup to Vereen as the passing down back pushes him over the edge. As for the others, Bolden and Blount are in competition to backup Ridley and Blount has the edge. However, Belichek likes Special Teams contributions (especially from his reserves) so Bolden has the edge. Hmmmm. Let's put that on hold. I think Develin and Hoomanawanui might be in competition against each other. With Gronk likely on the 53 but not active for the first few games, I think the 3rd TE (Sudfeld/Ballard make the team, Fells is cut) is needed. However, Develin has been used as the short yardage back. That could bring us back to the first part of the conversation where Blount could easily be used in that role (though, injury risk aside, the Pats best chance at picking up that short yard has typically been Brady himself). I'd keep everyone here except for Develin.
OL: McDonald vs Kline vs ? - This is very likely a spot where the last OL is not currently on the roster
DT: Vellano vs ? - Don't think Pena is anything more than a guy for this Thursday. Vellano has gotten some prime reps but, as with the last OL spot, this could be someone not currently on the roster
DE: Buchanan vs Cunningham - I suppose Cunningham has a shot to win the job on Thursday but I think Buchanan has the edge (Bequette is out, especially since he's more likely to make it to the practice squad than Buchanan)
DB: Dowling vs T Wilson vs Ebner - Despite the injury history, I think Dowling gets one more chance. So it could come down to Tavon Wilson vs Nate Ebner. Ebner is probably the better Special Teams player but Tavon is no slouch. Wilson also offers, at least, the upside of being a S (despite how bad he's looked, he did have some moments last year). Ebner does not. I think that cinches it for Wilson.
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Post by texs31 on Aug 28, 2013 15:48:17 GMT -5
Well there goes that idea:
Per Adam Schefter, Ras-I Dowling has been cut (Twitter).
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 28, 2013 15:57:29 GMT -5
texs31 -
Agreed on Tebow, Develin, OL. I think Pena and perhaps Vellano are ticketed for the practice squad.
I'm not surprise BB cut the cord on Dowling. Bad pick, let's move on.
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