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Post by jimed14 on Sept 7, 2019 18:13:21 GMT -5
Lol, Kyrie Irving looks like a gentleman compared to his situation with the Celtics versus Antonio Brown though. I'm sure people won't see it that way on here. There's a bit of difference between the NBA and the NFL. Let's see. If Brad Stevens was Bill Belichick and Antonio Brown was the QB that was supposed to singlehandedly win every game, then it would be similar. But the Pats are a team that didn't need Brown to win unlike what the Celtics needed from Kyrie. Plus, no one is going to put up with Brown doing his diva shit with the Pats, like they did with Kyrie on the Celtics. Brown gets a short leash and a blank slate in his final chance. I mean seriously, what would Belichick do with a Kyrie on his team? He'd get cut. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 7, 2019 18:21:40 GMT -5
Lol, Kyrie Irving looks like a gentleman compared to his situation with the Celtics versus Antonio Brown though. I'm sure people won't see it that way on here. There's a bit of difference between the NBA and the NFL. Let's see. If Brad Stevens was Bill Belichick and Antonio Brown was the QB that was supposed to singlehandedly win every game, then it would be similar. But the Pats are a team that didn't need Brown to win unlike what the Celtics needed from Kyrie. Plus, no one is going to put up with Brown doing his diva shit with the Pats, like they did with Kyrie on the Celtics. Brown gets a short leash and a blank slate in his final chance. I mean seriously, what would Belichick do with a Kyrie on his team? He'd get cut. The Patriots put up 3 years of Moss before getting rid of him. They put up with Brandon Browner for a whole season too. You'd be surprised to know how much BB puts up with, if the player is productive. He only cuts them when they're a problem and declining. |
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 7, 2019 18:25:54 GMT -5
So if Brown leaves next year, they'd get the full FA comp or what?
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Sept 7, 2019 18:42:38 GMT -5
So if Brown leaves next year, they'd get the full FA comp or what? Andrew Callaghan is reporting that to be the case. A not small part of the acquisition calculation no doubt. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 7, 2019 19:03:21 GMT -5
So if Brown leaves next year, they'd get the full FA comp or what? They can only get a 5th rd pick tops but yes |
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Post by philarhody on Sept 7, 2019 19:07:00 GMT -5
Wow. Pats paying Jonathan Jones real money. 3 years up to 25 million. Let’s us know how highly they think of him and defensive backs in general.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Sept 7, 2019 19:37:35 GMT -5
So if Brown leaves next year, they'd get the full FA comp or what? They can only get a 5th rd pick tops but yes Why? |
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Post by texs31 on Sept 7, 2019 19:53:06 GMT -5
IMO this is not like any of the other reclamation projects they have had (a slight similarity to one of them which I'll get to).
Dillon, Moss, Harrison, Gordon? They all had/have their issues. The common thread? They all wanted to play football and win (in many of their cases, it was that lack of winning that contributed to their issues).
Do we really think winning and playing football is at the top of AB's list of priorities? Cause I'm not so sure? Social Media? General entertainment (I only watched 1 episode but he was the 1st to be eliminated from the Masked Singer)? I think he wants that. Winning football? Need to see it.
So he reminds me more of Albert Haynesworth. Amazingly talented but maybe doesnt have the motivation (or maybe not anymore). That failed miserably (though the difference is that his lack of motivation came with horrible fitness which is NOT the case with AB).
Right now, the Pat's best chance is that he realizes how close he came to 30 million and all he has to do is lock it up this year, get the full 15 and then land a big contract with guarantees next year.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 7, 2019 20:07:37 GMT -5
Wow!!! AB is one of the biggest headaches in football and his behavior has been an abomination. Easily gives Patriots haters another big reason to hate them! Not that it really matters. Can't deny the major talent he has. Guess the Patriots found their big wide receiver. lol
This receiving corp, between Brown and Gordon and to a lesser extent (because of health) Thomas in conjunction with Edelman and Dorsett could be ridiculously amazing or extremely combustible which in that case they'll be hoping Harry can help out in the second half.
Too bad AB can't play vs the Steelers. Now THAT would have been fascinating!
I just hope he isn't a bigger headache than asset. I guess if it's the latter BB will punt him to the curb as well and that sure won't help his market next season!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 7, 2019 21:08:23 GMT -5
Apparently, Brown can be still suspended by the NFL for the conduct policy.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 7, 2019 23:52:25 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 8, 2019 0:58:33 GMT -5
Reports coming out this was planned. Brown wanted to be traded to Patriots, Steelers wouldn't consider it. So Brown forces his release. At first I was like that is crazy. Yet given how extreme Brown was, like full on meltdown. Articles if he'll play again. Then Patriots sign him within hours to a mega deal. I was surprised they signed him, shocked he got 10 million with a chance at 15 million. Kinda screams this was in the works at some point no?
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Post by marrcus on Sept 8, 2019 3:30:34 GMT -5
Wow. Thought there was a chance, if it was UFA. Bill will deal
with anyone. Brown isn't lazy, just nuts.
I would think this could work well until it doesn't. For whatever reason. Since
his agent probably informed him a market was available as soon as he was released he probably sees himself as winning this transaction even though he loses big money. Yes I imagine every top agent has a third party they deal with so as not to tamper with another teams FO. They knew, about the Pats interest.
Roster move: Bill cut Gordon, or a special teams rookie WR?
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Post by texs31 on Sept 8, 2019 6:52:39 GMT -5
They can only get a 5th rd pick tops but yes Why? Per Miguel, players with 10 or more accrued seasons only qualify for a 5th. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 8, 2019 7:10:02 GMT -5
Some serious Patriot hate going on over the Brown fiasco, loving it!!
Can he really straighten out and fly right? We will see but this all of a sudden a loaded offense.
Now we can talk about a 14-2 record.
Saw a stat the other day that said Pats were underdogs only 21 times in the last decade, they won about half of them. Crazy how dominant they have been. 13 AFC Championship games in 18 seasons, 9 wins and 6 SB wins. crazy
Is this the most talented wr group Tom has had?
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 8, 2019 8:39:39 GMT -5
Really enjoying listening to all the football guys on tv talking about how unstoppable the Pats O is going to be. Kurt Warner and Michael Irvin are beside themselves.
The Pats should be putting teams in passing situations a lot helping the D tee off, which they should be great at.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 8, 2019 9:26:09 GMT -5
They can only get a 5th rd pick tops but yes Why? Something about him being a veteran with a certain amount of service time but that could be bad info. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 8, 2019 9:30:19 GMT -5
IMO this is not like any of the other reclamation projects they have had (a slight similarity to one of them which I'll get to). Dillon, Moss, Harrison, Gordon? They all had/have their issues. The common thread? They all wanted to play football and win (in many of their cases, it was that lack of winning that contributed to their issues). Do we really think winning and playing football is at the top of AB's list of priorities? Cause I'm not so sure? Social Media? General entertainment (I only watched 1 episode but he was the 1st to be eliminated from the Masked Singer)? I think he wants that. Winning football? Need to see it. So he reminds me more of Albert Haynesworth. Amazingly talented but maybe doesnt have the motivation (or maybe not anymore). That failed miserably (though the difference is that his lack of motivation came with horrible fitness which is NOT the case with AB). Right now, the Pat's best chance is that he realizes how close he came to 30 million and all he has to do is lock it up this year, get the full 15 and then land a big contract with guarantees next year. I agree with a lot of this but it’s hard to question his motivation to be great when he’s notoriously one of the hardest workers in the league. The guy is a physical machine and that’s due to hard work and dedication to your craft. No doubt he has other distractions but that can be true along with his motivation to be great. There’s no one that trains harder than him - you don’t do that unless you have a ridiculous drive to be great. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Sept 8, 2019 10:09:00 GMT -5
IMO this is not like any of the other reclamation projects they have had (a slight similarity to one of them which I'll get to). Dillon, Moss, Harrison, Gordon? They all had/have their issues. The common thread? They all wanted to play football and win (in many of their cases, it was that lack of winning that contributed to their issues). Do we really think winning and playing football is at the top of AB's list of priorities? Cause I'm not so sure? Social Media? General entertainment (I only watched 1 episode but he was the 1st to be eliminated from the Masked Singer)? I think he wants that. Winning football? Need to see it. So he reminds me more of Albert Haynesworth. Amazingly talented but maybe doesnt have the motivation (or maybe not anymore). That failed miserably (though the difference is that his lack of motivation came with horrible fitness which is NOT the case with AB). Right now, the Pat's best chance is that he realizes how close he came to 30 million and all he has to do is lock it up this year, get the full 15 and then land a big contract with guarantees next year. I agree with a lot of this but it’s hard to question his motivation to be great when he’s notoriously one of the hardest workers in the league. The guy is a physical machine and that’s due to hard work and dedication to your craft. No doubt he has other distractions but that can be true along with his motivation to be great. There’s no one that trains harder than him - you don’t do that unless you have a ridiculous drive to be great. Agreed. And I'll add: as a 6th round draft pick. He's got a tremendous amount of sustained production for a guy who nothing was given to entering the league. His success was earned. Now we wait to see how badly he wants more. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 8, 2019 12:46:24 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 8, 2019 13:29:46 GMT -5
Lol, the Dolphins might be the worst team in the NFL. Getting blown out. The Bills and Jets with no offensive points through a whole half of football. The division is so bad. The Patriots would win it with a cheerleader as a QB.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 8, 2019 13:39:46 GMT -5
Yeah this is a terrible precedent. It also doesn't happen if the Raiders aren't run by incompetent morons. Hopefully the next team has a pulse and doesn't just get played by assholes like Antonio Brown. Speaking of bad stuff for the league, can't the Dolphins be relegated or something? Once the XFL gets underway, shouldn't the best team just replace the Dolphins? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 8, 2019 14:00:39 GMT -5
Had to switch to Redskins and Eagles because the Bills and Jets was so bad. Both QBs still look like rookies.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 8, 2019 14:50:10 GMT -5
Had to switch to Redskins and Eagles because the Bills and Jets was so bad. Both QBs still look like rookies. Both QB's might look like that for forever. Man they suck. |
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 8, 2019 14:56:59 GMT -5
Had to switch to Redskins and Eagles because the Bills and Jets was so bad. Both QBs still look like rookies. Eagles decided pre-season was over after they spotted the Redskins a 17-0 lead. 29-3 since and about to score another TD. Edit - 2 penalties blew that TD. |
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