2019 Celtics Offseason Thread

I'm no draft expert, just a sport junkie that spends way too much time study crap like sports drafts. This draft is rather intriguing depending what you're looking for. Lots of higher upside riskier players, but a good amount of intriguing guards, small forwards, and bigs. Yet it's not a good PG draft after the top two guys. It's crazy early but the cut-off seems to be around pick 12-13. Most Mocks have mostly similar players there, then it gets crazy the next 10-15 guys are all over the place. Also this draft has a ton of bigs, yet the rankings are all over the place. ESPN seems down on the liked of Gafford, Fernando, Bassey, and Reid while others are much higher.

So assuming Alexander-Walker and Bol Bol are gone like most mocks have them

14. Pick a Kentucky player lol, I can't decide on Keldon Johnson, Tyler Herro, or PJ Washington. The combine should help separate the players. Yet all three fit. If I had to pick one right now Keldon Johnson because of his D and upside, yet it's almost like flipping a coin. Herro can really shoot it and has size and Washington is just a guy I love. Like this is why Danny gets paid the big bucks because there will be a big time player available, he just has to pick the right guy out of a big group.

20. I'd have a hard time passing on the upsides of Kevin Porter or Romeo Langsford if they dropped. Both are scorers with issues, risky, but high upside guys. Daniel Gafford and Nazreon Reid intrigue me a lot. Your crazy athlete vs. skilled big. You could add in guys like Fernando and Bassey also.

22. Grant Williams and Chuma Okeke. It factor guys, made players around them better.

Second round pick, best available PG, so Shamorie Pond right now.

Everyone wants a big trade and to win right now. I actually hope we don't punt this draft and Danny makes the picks. Also don't just draft international guys to stash overseas either. This can be the draft that cements in our young core for years. Work your magic Danny.

Goga. Goga. Goga . . .

I actually don't know a ton about him but

a) you could stash him
b) hes right in that area on many boards so it's not the stretch that Yabu was.
c) I can picture the Belushi scene on the jumbo tron when calling for his PT (when he does come over)

Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't Davis now consider staying in NO to play with Zion? Seems like something to build around even though they are similar type of players, added to Holliday.

2 things (both with some grain of salt required):

1. Shams reported last night that the results of the lottery hasn't changed his stance.

2. Stars rarely long to play with rookies (almost always growing pains of some sorts)

Yeap, Davis wants to win NOW. Not see Zion develop the first 3 years and then be great. He went through a rebuild in NO already. He's done with it. He's done with NO.

How in the world does that happen? You need to renounce all cap holds to get 38 million and have everyone opt out, so that's Irving, Horford, Morris, Rozier, Baynes, Wannamaker and maybe even more like Semi. You can't renounce Irving's rights, then add in Horford even at 15 million per. Heck I don't think you get max money for Durant even if you get rid of everyone besides Irvings hold and trade Hayward. You'd have to unload Smart also no? 

What am I missing?

Nope, you need cap space or large trade exceptions for most of them. Reason is BYC rule using bird rights if raises are over 20%. The amount out going is say 40 million, yet other team can only send out 20 million. Making matching salary crazy hard without cap space. Your idea of two sign and trades is even harder, those rules would go both ways, each team would need cap space. It's why you almost never see sign and trades anymore.

Well trading Hayward and Tatum for Davis isn't a sign and trade, all three would be under contract. Standard trade rules.

That bleachers report is crazy, has the Celtics, Lakers, and Knicks giving up a massive amount. Then the Raptors give up almost nothing,OG, Pascal, Ibaka and a late first? So color me confused, that's an opinion piece nothing more.

Danny makes that trade I stop watching the Celtics. All those trades are f*cking crazy besides the Raptors one. I never seen such big trades. Like Davis is a very good player, yet he's closer to Irving than a true Superstar. He's the only guy people call top 5 that has trouble getting his teams into the playoffs. Like how isn't that a red flag? That team had more than enough talent to make the playoffs. Sometimes you need to not look at stats, how the player looks and focus on his effect on wins.

So I hope Davis gets traded elsewhere if that is the price. I don't see how you have a Championship team if you gut the team. Nevermind that is going to be a short run team. 3-4 year's guys will opt out and it's over. No Tatum and Brown reaching peak years to offset Horford and Irving getting old. The big three trades made sense, you formed the best team in the NBA. Irving, Davis, Hayward, and Horford isn't the best team or most talented.

A team of Tatum, Brown, Horford, and Rozier have had more playoff success than Davis has had or Irving minus LeBron. Stay the course, build a team that plays team ball, great D and is better than the sum of it's parts.

So the real question is what do we do without Davis and Irving? Davis to the Lakers, Irving to the Knicks. Have Danny find a way to get Dennis Smith Jr. or a guy like him. Focus on the draft and buy low younger players. I'd rather wait a few years then throw everything away and have no future.

If they keep Irving, they may as well trade Tatum since every time Irving goes ball hog crazy, Tatum completely disappears. Those two seem to never play well together. Brown disappears a lot as well when Irving tries to put the team on his back while shooting 30%.

Just signed a three year 39 million extension with the Heat last year.

Great. Let's have bench players starting, as long the Celtics are playing team ball, it's alright to stink. Should just resign Rozier for the QO anyways.

I missed that. Either way, the Heat aren't going anywhere with him, so you never know. A tall PG is second only to "goofy euro" as my basketball love, seriously more teams should do that.