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Post by philarhody on Sept 1, 2021 14:40:17 GMT -5
So has there been anything definitive said about why Newton was released rather than stick around as the backup? I have many theories, but I just wanted some clarity. (haha, clarity from Belichick) Yeah, I think New England probably wanted him as a backup/wildcat threat. Especially considering Mac’s frame. Signing Malcom Perry indicates to me that they want to have a running qb available to them. Or he’s just a gritty navy guy… |
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Post by cdj on Sept 1, 2021 14:41:09 GMT -5
I was gonna bring up Tavai when he was cut just because of the parallels to Van Noy (2nd round LB from Detroit with the same size that didn’t work there). Patricia obvs likes him. He was a reach in the 2nd though
This practice squad is pretty awesome tbh, they snuck a bunch of guys through that I didn’t think they could get through. I like Lacosse/Bryant/Wilkerson being there
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Post by maxwellsdemon on Sept 1, 2021 14:51:54 GMT -5
So has there been anything definitive said about why Newton was released rather than stick around as the backup? I have many theories, but I just wanted some clarity. (haha, clarity from Belichick) Yeah, I think New England probably wanted him as a backup/wildcat threat. Especially considering Mac’s frame. Signing Malcom Perry indicates to me that they want to have a running qb available to them. Or he’s just a gritty navy guy… |
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Post by texs31 on Sept 1, 2021 14:58:15 GMT -5
I was gonna bring up Tavai when he was cut just because of the parallels to Van Noy (2nd round LB from Detroit with the same size that didn’t work there). Patricia obvs likes him. He was a reach in the 2nd though This practice squad is pretty awesome tbh, they snuck a bunch of guys through that I didn’t think they could get through. I like Lacosse/Bryant/Wilkerson being there Read yesterday that teams were not going to be provided with the players vaccine status when making claims and that might turn off some GMs/Coaches. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 1, 2021 15:08:22 GMT -5
So has there been anything definitive said about why Newton was released rather than stick around as the backup? I have many theories, but I just wanted some clarity. (haha, clarity from Belichick) Yeah, I think New England probably wanted him as a backup/wildcat threat. Especially considering Mac’s frame. Signing Malcom Perry indicates to me that they want to have a running qb available to them. Or he’s just a gritty navy guy… He’s not a QB…. My guess Hoyer to PS is procedural so he can practice - he will be on the final 53 when things settle |
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Post by texs31 on Sept 1, 2021 15:48:39 GMT -5
NE just released Langi, clearing the way for the Perry claim.
EDIT - Not subject to waivers, he will likely re-sign (either 53 or PS pending other potential moves).
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 1, 2021 16:23:22 GMT -5
Not sure I see the Malcolm Perry angle, he doesn't have anywhere near the 3 cone time you want from a slot guy. He's so tiny for a RB and you already have two receiving RBs. Maybe it's just a claim and then release because they wanted to take a look. Even in College it was that triple option that Navy runs, I definitely enjoy watching it, old school Notre Dame type crap. Yet it's not the wildcat type crap either and he can’t throw.
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Post by texs31 on Sept 1, 2021 16:56:38 GMT -5
Guess Thurman was a waived/injured. Went unclaimed so he'll go to IR (out for the season unless NE releases him w/settlement).
Both Lazar/Kyed saying NE is looking for a QB to sign to PS.
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Post by cdj on Sept 1, 2021 17:53:11 GMT -5
Not sure I see the Malcolm Perry angle, he doesn't have anywhere near the 3 cone time you want from a slot guy. He's so tiny for a RB and you already have two receiving RBs. Maybe it's just a claim and then release because they wanted to take a look. Even in College it was that triple option that Navy runs, I definitely enjoy watching it, old school Notre Dame type crap. Yet it's not the wildcat type crap either and he can’t throw. Probably doesn’t hurt that they’re playing Miami in week 1 They’ve added FB Ben Mason and QB Garrett Gilbert to the practice squad Honestly kinda love both moves. Especially Mason |
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 1, 2021 17:55:07 GMT -5
Guess Thurman was a waived/injured. Went unclaimed so he'll go to IR (out for the season unless NE releases him w/settlement). Both Lazar/Kyed saying NE is looking for a QB to sign to PS. He better go on IR, or they pissed away a draft pick for nothing. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 1, 2021 18:00:08 GMT -5
I would have went crazy hard after Jake Fromm, yet the Bills signed him to the practice squad. It's not a good market looking for a QB.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 1, 2021 18:08:57 GMT -5
Not sure I see the Malcolm Perry angle, he doesn't have anywhere near the 3 cone time you want from a slot guy. He's so tiny for a RB and you already have two receiving RBs. Maybe it's just a claim and then release because they wanted to take a look. Even in College it was that triple option that Navy runs, I definitely enjoy watching it, old school Notre Dame type crap. Yet it's not the wildcat type crap either and he can’t throw. Probably doesn’t hurt that they’re playing Miami in week 1 They’ve added FB Ben Mason and QB Garrett Gilbert to the practice squad Honestly kinda love both moves. Especially Mason I really like the Ben Mason move, nice fullback blocking depth. Gilbert is just a body for me. If Mac Jones gets injured this team has to make a trade. |
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Post by cdj on Sept 1, 2021 18:12:09 GMT -5
Probably doesn’t hurt that they’re playing Miami in week 1 They’ve added FB Ben Mason and QB Garrett Gilbert to the practice squad Honestly kinda love both moves. Especially Mason I really like the Ben Mason move, nice fullback blocking depth. Gilbert is just a body for me. If Mac Jones gets injured this team has to make a trade. If Mac Jones gets hurt I don’t think there’s anybody out there who moves the needle. Kyle Allen might be the best option and that’s not saying a ton. He’s behind a couple guys Or you can go with Hoyer and end up in the top 5-10! Although I guess Foles exists |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 1, 2021 18:14:05 GMT -5
Guess Thurman was a waived/injured. Went unclaimed so he'll go to IR (out for the season unless NE releases him w/settlement). Both Lazar/Kyed saying NE is looking for a QB to sign to PS. He better go on IR, or they pissed away a draft pick for nothing. You thinking of Will Sherman? |
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Post by cdj on Sept 1, 2021 18:15:36 GMT -5
Guess Thurman was a waived/injured. Went unclaimed so he'll go to IR (out for the season unless NE releases him w/settlement). Both Lazar/Kyed saying NE is looking for a QB to sign to PS. He better go on IR, or they pissed away a draft pick for nothing. ……that happens pretty much every year with every halfway decent team? (And Thurman has been around for a bit) |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 1, 2021 18:19:29 GMT -5
I really like the Ben Mason move, nice fullback blocking depth. Gilbert is just a body for me. If Mac Jones gets injured this team has to make a trade. If Mac Jones gets hurt I don’t think there’s anybody out there who moves the needle. Kyle Allen might be the best option and that’s not saying a ton. He’s behind a couple guys Or you can go with Hoyer and end up in the top 5-10! Although I guess Foles exists Foles is that guy, maybe the only one. Yet I'm not really talking about a major injury, just half game to a game type guy. You know a legit backup or someone with upside to be that. Allen would be a big upgrade and that's crazy. Damn Eagles stole Minshew! |
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 1, 2021 19:13:39 GMT -5
He better go on IR, or they pissed away a draft pick for nothing. You thinking of Will Sherman? Nope was thinking Durant for some reason |
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Post by texs31 on Sept 1, 2021 20:03:00 GMT -5
Folk did make it to the PS. They also signed QB Garrett Gilbert to PS.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 2, 2021 5:23:29 GMT -5
The practice squad is pretty loaded…. There will be more movement here, but this is pretty nice. Wonder if Zuber returns.  |
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 2, 2021 6:26:40 GMT -5
The practice squad is pretty loaded…. There will be more movement here, but this is pretty nice. Wonder if Zuber returns. Who knows anything for sure but that looks like the best practice squad I have seen. Not just rookies or second yr players but guys with pro experience. I like the Ben Mason move also. As far as the ST players. Yes it seems a bit much given the number of true plays that occur in a game these days but as someone else said I think BB views them as depth that can contribute if needed in a pinch. Looking forward to some smash mouth football this year. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 2, 2021 8:23:45 GMT -5
PFF released their all rookie preseason team:
Mac Jones
Rhamondre Stevenson
Christian Barmore
All made it.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 2, 2021 11:59:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't sleep on Nordin or Wade either if we're talking all rookie teams. Nordin can make 57 yard field goals look easy, we haven't had a guy with a leg like that maybe ever. Wade is going to be forced into playing a lot given the roster and the way the Patriots use those CB/S guys is perfect for him.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 2, 2021 13:03:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't sleep on Nordin or Wade either if we're talking all rookie teams. Nordin can make 57 yard field goals look easy, we haven't had a guy with a leg like that maybe ever. Wade is going to be forced into playing a lot given the roster and the way the Patriots use those CB/S guys is perfect for him. For clarity it was a list about preseason performance not a regular season prediction |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 2, 2021 13:40:19 GMT -5
We've been waiting a long time for that it class. The difference making draft class. You know the one that changes a franchise direction. 2019 got you excited, yet Harry and Williams have been disappointments, Cajuste is just now healthy and Stidham looks more like a backup. You might have the most impactful draft class since 2010 with McCourty, Gronk, Spikes, Hernandez and Mesko.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 2, 2021 13:43:25 GMT -5
We've been waiting a long time for that it class. The difference making draft class. You know the one that changes a franchise direction. 2019 got you excited, yet Harry and Williams have been disappointments, Cajuste is just now healthy and Stidham looks more like a backup. You might have the most impactful draft class since 2010 with McCourty, Gronk, Spikes, Hernandez and Mesko. They desperately need it, they also need last years to give them high end players. Onwenu, looks there - need Uche and Duggar to make huge leaps. Looks promising. It’s time to stack a few drafts together |
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