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Post by vokuhila on Jul 29, 2021 14:27:32 GMT -5
I know I should be rooting against Tampa but I’m really enjoying seeing them light up Cole. And we always will! 1-2 is the perfect series result
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 29, 2021 14:27:58 GMT -5
Maybe they needed to make space because they're about to make a trade for a couple of guys and they didn't need Houck immediately? Don't you have to stay down for like 10 days now? I don't get it really but hopefully ya they're expecting a move soon. I believe so, but it's 1 start he'd miss. If they're getting Scherzer it's no big deal.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 29, 2021 14:31:29 GMT -5
Like Chris Hatfield wrote, the Houck move is to open up roster space for a new acquisition. They have to keep him down for 15 games. But does that include the double header against Toronto on Aug 7th? Couldn't the Sox call him up to start the game as an extra man for that double header? Send him back down and bring him back up when that 15 day window expires in time for his next start? Pretty sure it's 10 days, not 15 games. I'm assuming they are doing this because he wouldn't start a game in those 10 days anyway, so why not have the extra spot for another releiver (or backup)?
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 29, 2021 14:32:48 GMT -5
So Houck is unavailable for 8 games (4 of which he would be unavailable for if he was on the roster), makes a start vs Toronto with goofy double header rules, then he is eligible to come back in sync with the rotation In return the Red Sox get an extra big bullpen for a bit
Okay, makes sense.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 29, 2021 14:36:01 GMT -5
Cora said that he'll be up on August 7th for the double header.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 29, 2021 14:37:39 GMT -5
Like Chris Hatfield wrote, the Houck move is to open up roster space for a new acquisition. They have to keep him down for 15 games. But does that include the double header against Toronto on Aug 7th? Couldn't the Sox call him up to start the game as an extra man for that double header? Send him back down and bring him back up when that 15 day window expires in time for his next start? Pretty sure it's 10 days, not 15 games. I'm assuming they are doing this because he wouldn't start a game in those 10 days anyway, so why not have the extra spot for another releiver (or backup)? 1) It's 10 days for a position player and 15 for a pitcher. 2) This is kind of brilliant. Cora said it's because he's starting in the doubleheader on the 7th. The 15-day requirement doesn't apply to the 27th man for a doubleheader (he just needs to be the one who goes down after). His 15 days will end on the 13th, which is 5 days after that start anyway. They're basically foregoing, what, one relief appearance by him between now and the 7th for roster flexibility. It's kind of brilliant.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 29, 2021 14:40:03 GMT -5
That's fair. The blow back on Cora could be catastrophic. If it's anyone else, I bet the manager gets ignored, but not Cora. He can't pitch without it so they should. Yeah, unfortunately Cora is in that situation. If a Yankees pitcher gets caught cheating the blowback will be on the pitcher, but if it's any Red Sox pitcher, it's Cora who would have to deal with the repercussions, and that would torpedo a lot of stuff, because this team is nowhere near where it is if not for Cora. I truly believe Cora has been a difference maker this year. It's weird to buy into a "the manager is responsible for this or at fault for that" default position a lot of fans point to when the team loses (or even wins), but with Cora, I still think that 2018 team wouldn't have been anywhere near as special if not for Cora, and it's the same thing this year with them. It wasn't there in 2019, but it's here in 2021. And I think Cora has a lot to do with it. I was thinking this before the season even started!!
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Post by cdj on Jul 29, 2021 15:02:48 GMT -5
Hernandez 4 Duran 8 Bogaerts 6 Martinez DH Renfroe 9 Verdugo 7 Vazquez 2 Dalbec 5 Cordero 3
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 29, 2021 15:13:09 GMT -5
If Dalbec can play an okay third base and we didn't have Devers I'd kinda still be in on Bobby
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Post by fanofredsox on Jul 29, 2021 15:48:49 GMT -5
Has there been a Devers update?
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Post by incandenza on Jul 29, 2021 15:51:54 GMT -5
Has there been a Devers update?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 29, 2021 15:53:27 GMT -5
If Dalbec can play an okay third base and we didn't have Devers I'd kinda still be in on Bobby He's got a cannon under his right sleeve and, for a big guy, he moves better than I thought he would. He's not Arenado but for now he should be able to cover for Devers.
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Post by fanofredsox on Jul 29, 2021 16:04:02 GMT -5
If Dalbec can play an okay third base and we didn't have Devers I'd kinda still be in on Bobby He's got a cannon under his right sleeve and, for a big guy, he moves better than I thought he would. He's not Arenado but for now he should be able to cover for Devers. At least defensively but the bat needs to wake up, I hope it happens for him
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 29, 2021 17:08:38 GMT -5
Is this game gonna be played?
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Post by cba82 on Jul 29, 2021 17:19:53 GMT -5
Is this game gonna be played? Not sure why this wasn’t a get-away day game (and not just because of the weather).
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jul 29, 2021 17:47:13 GMT -5
At Fenway… tarp came off 20 minutes ago… Payton Prichard of Celtics throwing out first pitch. He looks pretty nervous.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 29, 2021 18:13:32 GMT -5
Great to see Erod making Springer look foolish a week after it looked like his season was in jeopardy
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 29, 2021 18:16:42 GMT -5
Typical Erod luck.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 29, 2021 18:18:48 GMT -5
That double was smoked though
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Post by station13 on Jul 29, 2021 18:23:30 GMT -5
I wonder how we got the best AL record with Rodriguez, Perez, Richards and Pivetta pitching like this.
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Post by cheers on Jul 29, 2021 18:24:03 GMT -5
Great to see Erod making Springer look foolish a week after it looked like his season was in jeopardy Eek, this isn't going so well. Might have been more a Springer thing than an EdRod thing?
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Post by kjkramer on Jul 29, 2021 18:24:09 GMT -5
I can't be the only one that would feel better with both Houck and Whitlock as starters over Edrod?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 29, 2021 18:24:23 GMT -5
They were playing to pull so it may have been a single at most. Sorry screwed that post up.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 29, 2021 18:26:30 GMT -5
Not the end of the world, let’s get at least one back please
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Post by cdj on Jul 29, 2021 18:28:26 GMT -5
I can't be the only one that would feel better with both Houck and Whitlock as starters over Edrod? If you combine the two for 7 innings maybe
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