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9/28-9/30 Red Sox @ Orioles Series Thread
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Post by greenmonster on Sept 30, 2021 20:46:14 GMT -5
S.ox O.ur F.avorite T.eam
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 30, 2021 20:47:16 GMT -5
Well played and good grit and never stopped playing for the orioles. They deserved to win that game.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Sept 30, 2021 20:49:01 GMT -5
This team just wants to go home.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Sept 30, 2021 20:49:02 GMT -5
Id rather play the Yanks at Yankee stadium if we make the playoffs. Bigger upside if we win and less embarassment if we lose. Not to mention that short RF porch kinda makes it more likely something weird happens like when Damon hit that pop fly grand slam in 04. I'd be Ok with that too. I don't think home field would be worth much either way in one game. So many fluky things can happen that even an outgunned struggling team like the RS would have a shot.
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 30, 2021 20:49:31 GMT -5
Mister Softee should replace Wally as our mascot
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 30, 2021 20:49:48 GMT -5
3 more games to go against another bad team, but without any division rivalry. There’s still time to turn it around and make it.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Sept 30, 2021 20:49:54 GMT -5
S... A....W....F.....T
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 30, 2021 20:50:12 GMT -5
Pathetic display
I really don't want to hear any excuse making of how the team exceeded expectations and how choking away double digit leads and the final week of the season when the schedule was totally in their favor is acceptable?
Seriously. Other than Devers there is nobody on the team they could get rid of that would bother me.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Sept 30, 2021 20:51:03 GMT -5
Pathetic display I really don't want to hear any excuse making of how the team exceeded expectations and how choking away double digit leads and the final week of the season when the schedule was totally in their favor is acceptable? Seriously. Other than Devers there is nobody on the team they could get rid of that would bother me. Xander would aggravate me. Sale too.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 30, 2021 20:51:11 GMT -5
Id rather play the Yanks at Yankee stadium if we make the playoffs. Bigger upside if we win and less embarassment if we lose. Not to mention that short RF porch kinda makes it more likely something weird happens like when Damon hit that pop fly grand slam in 04. I'd be Ok with that too. I don't think home field would be worth much either way in one game. So many fluky things can happen that even an outgunned struggling team like the RS would have a shot. Hate to say it but the 2021 Red Sox would choke.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 30, 2021 20:52:31 GMT -5
For sure. His second half is the best evidence yet of why it would be BB malpractice to give him bigger money and years. The contract he has now would probably pay him fair value for what he'll produce between now and 2025. Offer to tack on another year or two at about the same money. If he won't go for that, trade him for young assets. I want CB to handle his duties with all the sentimentality and warmth of Michael Corleone settling all family business at end of GF1. Make the best BB decisions without regard to whose feelings get hurt. Maybe it’s the feeling of getting older, but there’s no emotional connection to any of these players except maybe Sale. No Pedroia, Ortiz, Youkilis, Pedro, Papelbon characters. The 2011 team at least made sense with a total pitching collapse. And even with all this we still might make it… You capture something I've been thinking. There is no clear "heart" - emotional, inspiring leader - on this team. 2004 had Tek, Millar, Manny, Damon and Ortiz, and Schilling and Pedro 2007 had Youk, Pedroia, Lowell, Manny, Ortiz, Schilling and Paps 2013 had Napoli, Pedroia, Gomes, Victorino, Ortiz, and Koji 2018 had Mookie and a cast of great performances 2021 doesn't have that type of inspiring leadership. Not Xander, not Raffi, not JD - that is not their thing. Not Sale - I don't think a pitcher can be the only one doing this. I think it impacts the team and CB needs to ponder this sort of factor moving forward.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Sept 30, 2021 20:52:58 GMT -5
I'd be Ok with that too. I don't think home field would be worth much either way in one game. So many fluky things can happen that even an outgunned struggling team like the RS would have a shot. Hate to say it but the 2021 Red Sox would choke. Seattle is about to finally pass them. They can finally breathe again. The quit level on this team is strong.
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Post by tyler3 on Sept 30, 2021 20:53:56 GMT -5
If Chaim Bloom I’d just go QO crazy. JD, ERod we love you but we aren’t give you an extension or picking you up in free agency. Take the QO if you want it (if JD decides to opt out). Parade the same team out there next year, hopefully some of the young pitchers, a full year of Sale, and some adjustments by Dalbec and Duran make up the difference, throw in a Casas call up. 2022 over…Xander, Eovoldi we love you, but we aren’t giving you an extension or picking you up in free agency, here’s your QO.
You figure some of these QOs will get turned down and you can add those draft picks as the second wave to augment some combination of Devers, Mayers, Yorke, Casas, Dalbec, Renfroe, Verdugo, Duran, Groome, Mata, Houck, Seabold, Pivetta, Bello, Murphy, and Jordan.
That plus you have a ton of money to play with.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 30, 2021 20:54:08 GMT -5
Pathetic display I really don't want to hear any excuse making of how the team exceeded expectations and how choking away double digit leads and the final week of the season when the schedule was totally in their favor is acceptable? Seriously. Other than Devers there is nobody on the team they could get rid of that would bother me. Xander would aggravate me. Sale too. Xander has aggravated me all week. Don't get too attached to him. If he wants to be paid like a top SS and opts out he'll be gone. I like Sale, but it wouldnt bother me the way Clemens and Pedro leaving did.
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Post by dl on Sept 30, 2021 20:54:18 GMT -5
Tragedy turned into comedy.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Sept 30, 2021 20:55:40 GMT -5
I've said it on here before: the end of this season - in whatever form it happens to come - will be a relief. This is a frustrating, painful grind night after night.
Tuesday night's game and tonight's were like three-hour-long dental extractions. The three against the MFYs? Worse. Those were proctology exams.
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Sept 30, 2021 20:58:45 GMT -5
Mister Softee should replace Wally as our mascot My sister drove a Mr Softee truck 40 yrs ago in southern NJ. She let me ride in it one time. It was so digusting in the back - melted soft serve ice cream on the floor. Your sneakers would litterally stick to the floor. And that wonderous jingle: over-and-over. Just like this Red Sox season.
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Post by lostinnewjersey on Sept 30, 2021 20:59:01 GMT -5
Today's lesson for everyone who was tossing out projections: even bad teams want to win. You can't take it for gramted that you can beat bad teams at will, especially if your team isn't that great either.
It would be pretty ironic if the Red Sox season was scuttled by the first three and last three games against the Orioles.
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Post by benzinger on Sept 30, 2021 21:02:19 GMT -5
In hindsight, perhaps getting swept by the Yankees at home then losing 2 of 3 to the Orioles wasn’t the best way to make our playoff push.
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 30, 2021 21:03:15 GMT -5
Maybe it’s the feeling of getting older, but there’s no emotional connection to any of these players except maybe Sale. No Pedroia, Ortiz, Youkilis, Pedro, Papelbon characters. The 2011 team at least made sense with a total pitching collapse. And even with all this we still might make it… You capture something I've been thinking. There is no clear "heart" - emotional, inspiring leader - on this team. 2004 had Tek, Millar, Manny, Damon and Ortiz, and Schilling and Pedro 2007 had Youk, Pedroia, Lowell, Manny, Ortiz, Schilling and Paps 2013 had Napoli, Pedroia, Gomes, Victorino, Ortiz, and Koji 2018 had Mookie and a cast of great performances 2021 doesn't have that type of inspiring leadership. Not Xander, not Raffi, not JD - that is not their thing. Not Sale - I don't think a pitcher can be the only one doing this. I think it impacts the team and CB needs to ponder this sort of factor moving forward. And it seems corny, but why isn’t anyone busting up a cooler or dugout phone? I see high school games with more fire, I don’t mind losing as much as how lifeless this team has been. We’re Red Sox fans after all, we don’t take wins for granted, but even our crappy teams had some interesting personalities. I mean it almost makes me miss Carl Everett at this point…
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 30, 2021 21:03:52 GMT -5
I've said it on here before: the end of this season - in whatever form it happens to come - will be a relief. This is a frustrating, painful grind night after night. Tuesday night's game and tonight's were like three-hour-long dental extractions. The three against the MFYs? Worse. Those were proctology exams. What makes it tough is how enjoyable they were for the first four months. They found ways to win games that they should have lost. The team had too many Danny Santanas and Marwin Gonzalezes, but they'd persevere. The team had guts and maximized everything. They were an absolute joy to watch. They add Schwarber and get Sale back and get rid of a lot of the deadwood, but they have found so many different ways to lose. They have done nothing but puke all over themselves in every way possible. They have become miserable to watch. Totally joyless. A team that was as gutsy as I've seen in 3 years became the polar opposite, as soft as can be. They are an embarrassing disgrace. I hope Bloom blows up this team and reshapes it this offseason.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Sept 30, 2021 21:06:55 GMT -5
This team has pulled this stuff all the time. They get a big win on Wednesday and get our hopes up that they finally can get going and come out the next night and stink it up. It is nothing new.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Sept 30, 2021 21:07:50 GMT -5
If Chaim Bloom I’d just go QO crazy. JD, ERod we love you but we aren’t give you an extension or picking you up in free agency. Take the QO if you want it (if JD decides to opt out). Parade the same team out there next year, hopefully some of the young pitchers, a full year of Sale, and some adjustments by Dalbec and Duran make up the difference, throw in a Casas call up. 2022 over…Xander, Eovoldi we love you, but we aren’t giving you an extension or picking you up in free agency, here’s your QO. You figure some of these QOs will get turned down and you can add those draft picks as the second wave to augment some combination of Devers, Mayers, Yorke, Casas, Dalbec, Renfroe, Verdugo, Duran, Groome, Mata, Houck, Seabold, Pivetta, Bello, Murphy, and Jordan. That plus you have a ton of money to play with. I agree with this. I want moves that help build The Next Great Red Sox Team, even if those moves cause us to take a step back in the short term. The 2022 season could very well be like the 2020 season in terms of games played, so don't be in GFIN mode. Get more young assets to complement what it appears to be a good emerging core of Casas, MM, and Yorke. Those guys could make a great two-through-four in the order. I seriously don't want to be at this keyboard in 2025 ruminating about how we'll have a lot more financial flexibility in 2029 when X's $30M/year contract runs out and we'll be done with his 105 OPS-plus bat and bad LF defense.
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 30, 2021 21:07:52 GMT -5
I've said it on here before: the end of this season - in whatever form it happens to come - will be a relief. This is a frustrating, painful grind night after night. Tuesday night's game and tonight's were like three-hour-long dental extractions. The three against the MFYs? Worse. Those were proctology exams. What makes it tough is how enjoyable they were for the first four months. They found ways to win games that they should have lost. The team had too many Danny Santanas and Marwin Gonzalezes, but they'd persevere. The team had guts and maximized everything. They were an absolute joy to watch. They add Schwarber and get Sale back and get rid of a lot of the deadwood, but they have found so many different ways to lose. They have done nothing but puke all over themselves in every way possible. They have become miserable to watch. Totally joyless. A team that was as gutsy as I've seen in 3 years became the polar opposite, as soft as can be. They are an embarrassing disgrace. I hope Bloom blows up this team and reshapes it this offseason. Give us an entertaining team, winning next year will be challenging with a stacked division, but at least give us a team that doesn’t look constipated. They’re playing like they all had a full cavity search and can’t do any of the basics
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Post by cdj on Sept 30, 2021 21:08:16 GMT -5
Mellon Collie and the Infinite sadness
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