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Post by redsoxfan2 on Nov 28, 2024 17:58:09 GMT -5
He's just big mad he didn't have it first. That's what I'm choosing to believe. |
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Post by wkdbigsoxfan on Nov 28, 2024 18:11:55 GMT -5
I have three unrelated thoughts:
Maybe it’s just me— but this feels similar to the few days prior to Devers getting his deal.
This is a team that has had very little in the way of rumors the last handful of years except for Devers and Soto sagas
Carrabis is playing dumb but he probably has a good idea of what’s going on
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Post by grandsalami on Nov 28, 2024 18:13:13 GMT -5
I have three unrelated thoughts: Maybe it’s just me— but this feels similar to the few days prior to Devers getting his deal. This is a team that has had very little in the way of rumors the last handful of years except for Devers and Soto sagas Carrabis is playing dumb but he probably has a good idea of what’s going on Yup. Very similar to the flat out denials wrt to that birthday trip to DR |
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Nov 28, 2024 18:18:15 GMT -5
I’m not letting myself get hyped. This is simply ownership leaking to make us all feel something again. Yeah the ownership is leaking stuff to small name podcasters from other countries This would be CIA psyop level PR |
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Post by asm18 on Nov 28, 2024 18:21:17 GMT -5
The only intel (which may or may not be correct) that seems relevant from all this is:
-alleged Devers call with Soto (Rodriguez)
-alleged offer of 12-13 years, 600+ mil (Rodriguez, Gomez)
If some random podcaster has been informed by their father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate that Soto is coming here, good for them - but those nuggets seem like all we feasibly take into consideration at the moment
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 28, 2024 18:24:40 GMT -5
I'd be happy if the offer is just legit, like finally going big after the one player you should go big after.
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Post by baseballguy350 on Nov 28, 2024 18:25:29 GMT -5
I’m not letting myself get hyped. This is simply ownership leaking to make us all feel something again. No. This is not that. Stop getting my hopes up! I’m doing everything I possibly can to temper my expectations. |
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Post by saltalamacchia4mvp on Nov 28, 2024 18:38:14 GMT -5
The entire city of NY would have a meltdown if he ended up signing with Boston because it's been talked as if its been a foregone conclusion that he signs with either the Mets or Yankees.
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Post by grandsalami on Nov 28, 2024 19:30:05 GMT -5
Sources fight lol
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 28, 2024 19:41:58 GMT -5
All I know is at this point he'd better sign or I'll be a sad guy.
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Post by grandsalami on Nov 28, 2024 19:43:08 GMT -5
All I know is at this point he'd better sign or I'll be a sad guy.  |
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 28, 2024 19:48:10 GMT -5
All I know is at this point he'd better sign or I'll be a sad guy. I almost said one sad panda but then I figured we already had that with Sandoval and didn't want to elicit those thoughts haha. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 28, 2024 19:48:19 GMT -5
I think this guy is full of ****. I think the Sox made a strong offer but will ultimately have to up it by another 50 - 75 million to keep up with the Mets. My source is common sense. |
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 28, 2024 19:50:24 GMT -5
I think this guy is full of ****. I think the Sox made a strong offer but will ultimately have to up it by another 50 - 75 million to keep up with the Mets. My source is common sense. Probably the case but come on don't rain on my parade! |
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Post by notstarboard on Nov 28, 2024 19:51:15 GMT -5
I think this guy is full of ****. I think the Sox made a strong offer but will ultimately have to up it by another 50 - 75 million to keep up with the Mets. My source is common sense. Why is it common sense that the Mets would offer 75-100 million over projections? |
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Post by trotman on Nov 28, 2024 19:54:57 GMT -5
Does anyone follow Liverpool? I know they played yesterday but dunno why Alec Cora would tweet out “What a day! Thank you @lfc.” an hour ago. Timing seems off but I’m grasping at straws at this point.
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Post by Smittyw on Nov 28, 2024 19:57:47 GMT -5
This is so silly, and I love it.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 28, 2024 20:07:48 GMT -5
I think this guy is full of ****. I think the Sox made a strong offer but will ultimately have to up it by another 50 - 75 million to keep up with the Mets. My source is common sense. Why is it common sense that the Mets would offer 75-100 million over projections? I dont take "projections" any more as gospel than you should take my opinion. I've watched Boras for a long time and hes not going to have this contract signed than anything less than a record. I dont know if the present value annual dollar figure for Ohtani is well known. Much more well known is that hes getting 20 million over the next 10 years and 680 million the following 10 for a total signing figure of 700 million. I think the target is to both top the 700 million figure and yes, get an annual dollar figure between 46.75 to 50 million per year, so when I see 600 - 625 million thrown around its feasible to me that another team can give Soto 14 to 15 years that comes out to 701 million. |
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 28, 2024 20:09:33 GMT -5
Why is it common sense that the Mets would offer 75-100 million over projections? I dont take "projections" any more as gospel than you should take my opinion. I've watched Boras for a long time and hes not going to have this contract signed than anything less than a record. I dont know if the present value annual dollar figure for Ohtani is well known. Much more well known is that hes getting 20 million over the next 10 years and 680 million the following 10 for a total signing figure of 700 million. I think the target is to both top the 700 million figure and yes, get an annual dollar figure between 46.75 to 50 million per year, so when I see 600 - 625 million thrown around its feasible to me that another team can give Soto 14 to 15 years that comes out to 701 million. 13 years 625M would be a record depending on any deferments though. |
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Post by TearsIn04 on Nov 28, 2024 20:11:21 GMT -5
Boras/Soto are not accepting an offer from the Red Sox, the MFYs or even the Savanah Bananas without shopping it to the Mets. I have trouble believing that the Red Sox have made an offer so fantastic that Steven Cohen shook his head and walked away. At a minimum, he would ask for time to consider it, which Boras would certainly grant him.
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 28, 2024 20:14:05 GMT -5
Boras/Soto are not accepting an offer from the Red Sox, the MFYs or even the Savanah Bananas without shopping it to the Mets. I have trouble that the Red Sox have made an offer so fantastic that Steven Cohen shook his head and walked away. At a minimum, he would ask for time to consider it, which Boras would certainly grant him. Probably true and if there's any truth to these rumors then it would make sense why it's no official yet. I'm probably getting my hopes up just to be let down but the argument that well the Mets and Steve Cohen doesn't really mean all that much either. |
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Post by scottysmalls on Nov 28, 2024 20:16:46 GMT -5
Why is it common sense that the Mets would offer 75-100 million over projections? I dont take "projections" any more as gospel than you should take my opinion. I've watched Boras for a long time and hes not going to have this contract signed than anything less than a record. I dont know if the present value annual dollar figure for Ohtani is well known. Much more well known is that hes getting 20 million over the next 10 years and 680 million the following 10 for a total signing figure of 700 million. I think the target is to both top the 700 million figure and yes, get an annual dollar figure between 46.75 to 50 million per year, so when I see 600 - 625 million thrown around its feasible to me that another team can give Soto 14 to 15 years that comes out to 701 million. Lot of confidence required to think your estimate is just as likely to be accurate as both the professionals and the models (both of which btw have been pretty decent even on the mega deals in recent years, Xander excepted) |
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Post by greatscottcooper on Nov 28, 2024 20:18:30 GMT -5
Isn’t the wealth tax significant in NY compared to Boston?
If that sort of thing matters to Soto, the Mets might have to add $50 million just to match Bostons offer
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Post by badballhitter on Nov 28, 2024 20:19:41 GMT -5
Why is it common sense that the Mets would offer 75-100 million over projections? I dont take "projections" any more as gospel than you should take my opinion. I've watched Boras for a long time and hes not going to have this contract signed than anything less than a record. I don't know if the present value annual dollar figure for Ohtani is well known. Much more well known is that hes getting 20 million over the next 10 years and 680 million the following 10 for a total signing figure of 700 million. I think the target is to both top the 700 million figure and yes, get an annual dollar figure between 46.75 to 50 million per year, so when I see 600 - 625 million thrown around its feasible to me that another team can give Soto 14 to 15 years that comes out to 701 million. It is. $46M per year. Here's Cot's Baseball Contracts site for reference. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YX_O-LZuYfE9n8u3s3EICLAjp1hixwovsrTIJaaAXng/edit?gid=1520401900#gid=1520401900 |
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 28, 2024 20:21:40 GMT -5
There were rumors that Soto wanted to be "the man" so to speak. With the Yankees obviously he wouldn't be with judge there but also if you think about it the Mets are 2nd fiddle to the Yankees so even if he signed there he'd still kind of be behind judge. If he signs in Boston he would be "the man" and wouldn't be playing 2nd fiddle to anyone so there's that going for the Sox too.
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