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Post by texs31 on Aug 6, 2013 15:53:50 GMT -5
Unless a trade brings someone in, I'd expect Olynyk to start this year at C with, ideally, Sullinger at the 4. Faverani backs up Olynyk with whomever doesn't get traded out of Bass/Humphries (of course, Wallace and Green could also both be on the floor at the 2 forward spots so minutes could get allocated there).
The optimist in me still only sees Olynyk as a backup C/PF (could actually provide an advantage on the second unit) or MAYBE a starting PF (if your C is well above average). I'd expect the ideal future C is acquired using Rondo or, in more of a crapshoot, one of the accumulated draft picks (not really breaking news here since I've stated my thoughts on Olynyk; Faverani is such an unknown and nobody sees starting C out of Fab Melo - not anytime soon certainly).
Of course, if Sullinger's back surgery (Gary Washburn just tweeted he's been cleared for basketball activities by the way) actually puts him back at the player many thought he'd be the year before Boston drafted him (most thought he was a lock Top 5 talent with a chance at better for that draft) then you could probably get away with a pure defensive C in the middle (easier to obtain in the draft then someone you'd need to also have as the focal point of your offense).
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Post by texs31 on Aug 15, 2013 11:51:26 GMT -5
www.nba.com/celtics/news/press_release/celtics-complete-trade-memphis?ls=iref:nbahptsNot sure I understand this one. I mean, I know Melo was a long shot to be anything more than and end of the bench guy but Donte Greene can't be considered an upgrade in talent (we actually threw in cash). Why not hold onto the outside chance that Fab could learn to be a servicable defensive backup (admittedly, I had more hope than others)  The only thing I can think of is that Greene's contract is non-guaranteed. That means we can release him and accomplish a couple of things (though maybe they are connected): 1. Of course, it would help with any Lux Tax bill. Maybe that's all there is to it. 2. In a trade, we could take on more guaranteed contracts than we give out. We were at 15, I think, so we wouldn't have roster space to take on a guaranteed contract (in, say, a 1 for 2 trade). 3. We were hard-capped this year (admittedly, i'm not an expert in how that works - need to check out Larry Coon's FAQ) so regardless of meeting the standard "salary matching" trade rules, we wouldn't be able to take on salary up to a point. Further, we had that trade exception which, again, we were limited in using bc of the hard cap. This could allow more space to use in a trade. 4. Maybe we're looking to make another deal with Memphis (for cap rules, masking a rule breaking larger deal into cap-compliant smaller deals) and this was just the 1st shoe (as both teams try and keep quiet so as not to queer the deal as with the LAC situation). I had no doubt there would be another move before the season started, I just didn't think this was it. My guess. There's more coming.
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Post by jmei on Aug 15, 2013 22:17:41 GMT -5
It's nowhere near that complicated. Donte Green's contract is not guaranteed, and cutting him would move the Celtics from $72.5m to $71.2m in guaranteed salary. Not uncoincidentally, the luxury tax line is $71.7m this year. This transactions moves the Celtics from taxpayers to non-taxpayers, which saves them a boatload of cash (rather than paying into the luxury tax, they'd now receive luxury tax payments at the end of the year) and means they won't be paying repeater tax rates if they go over the tax again in the next few years.
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Post by texs31 on Aug 16, 2013 6:57:16 GMT -5
Well, that would be why I listed it as #1. That being said, aren't we all expecting that one of the SGs and PFs are going to be traded? I would imagine it would be easy to get to that goal in one of those moves. Instead, you paid someone to take one of your 1st round picks from last year (granted, one that is a major wild card and didn't show anything in year one).
Just feel that if that was the only motive, they could've done it in a different way (and a way that was likely to happen anyway).
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Post by jmei on Aug 16, 2013 8:24:05 GMT -5
It helps the Celtics leverage in any trade talks. Now, they can credibly threaten to walk away.
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Post by jmei on Aug 16, 2013 8:25:28 GMT -5
Also, they obviously realized Melo was a stiff. Which the rest of us figured out a while ago.
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Post by texs31 on Aug 16, 2013 16:34:46 GMT -5
I assume we should see a transaction soon where DG's contract is terminated. There is no deadline for this year but I would imagine, if the room under the tax is the motivation, they should do this soon (at least give him a shot at latching on with someone else - though few have guaranteed contrats to offer at this point so he may need to go back oversees and wait for an injury).
Still want to see that next move (even if this one wasn't a pre-cursor). I can't imagine there is value in having this much redundancy on a team that is hoping to not do well (no matter what DA is saying).
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Post by wcp3 on Aug 17, 2013 7:14:39 GMT -5
Personally, I thought Melo was gonna be a stud. I mean, those Syracuse guys always end up panning out.
Nothing like playing zone 100% of the time to prepare yourself for the pros.
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Post by jmei on Sept 7, 2013 14:19:55 GMT -5
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Post by wcp3 on Sept 8, 2013 8:43:39 GMT -5
Green is a sneaky good player. He's a little underwhelming as a rebounder, but his defense at SF is good and he has a well-rounded offensive game. I think he could eventually be good enough to be the 3rd offensive weapon on a good team.
That contract Ainge signed him to looks like it will be pretty fair value after all.
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Post by nebraska4sox on Sept 25, 2013 15:38:17 GMT -5
Green is a sneaky good player. He's a little underwhelming as a rebounder, but his defense at SF is good and he has a well-rounded offensive game. I think he could eventually be good enough to be the 3rd offensive weapon on a good team. That contract Ainge signed him to looks like it will be pretty fair value after all. I watched Jeff Green play in OKC, before he was traded and before he had his open heart surgery. At that time I figured he could grow to be one of the best young scorers in the league and not much else. Being a fan of the NBA I am really glad to see that he has evolved so much as player. Most players grow but Jeff Green missed a year and a half due to his open heart surgery so it was encouraging to see. |
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Post by jmei on Oct 4, 2013 13:25:53 GMT -5
For a basketball geek like myself, this is awesome:
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 4, 2013 21:33:24 GMT -5
For a basketball geek like myself, this is awesome: Wow, a ton of that went over my head but I've always wondered how NBA defensive schemes worked. |
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 5, 2013 14:25:48 GMT -5
For all intents and purposes, Frank will be the head coach of the Brooklyn Nets this season.
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Post by okin15 on Oct 8, 2013 8:34:00 GMT -5
Doesn't it seem like the Celts should let Sullinger work off his weight before he goes banging around in the post? Just to save his back, nothing else. Just seems like if this whole season is going to be training camp for next season, why rush into it?
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 8, 2013 19:19:58 GMT -5
His back is fine. He can work off the weight and play at the same time.
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