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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 28, 2024 10:48:51 GMT -5
I think the Sox will make a small move like a Luis Garcia.
Paxton is a small move. Jansen is a small move.
The fan in me hates it but they're probably better off at this time with marginal increases rather than getting ripped off for a middle setup/middle reliever. But of course this supposes that Martin or eventually Hendrik gets healthy and effective by September, which isnt a given, but might be preferable to the cost for a Finnegan or Fairbank. And that means that a middle reliever type might be the way to go for a lesser cost. Of course a few more blown bullpen games..
Hell, I'd like to see them get Snell if they can get him for a reasonable cost, but I still hold out hope that the Sox will spend their money on Corbin Burnes, even though its unlikely.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 28, 2024 10:35:23 GMT -5
Lesko has a big arm but at this point has no idea how to pitch. He's just a thrower. He cannot throw strikes and he's giving up a ton of runs in the minors. The Padres might have given the Rays their next Luis Patino. I dont think the rest of the cost was prohibitive. Wish the Sox could have made that move. Trade a big arm with no control and little else for a guy as reliable as Adam. Lesko was a mid-first round draft pick, has only 103 professional innings pitched, and is not yet 21, so "at this point" is doing a lot of work. I would have been thrilled if the Red Sox had gotten him as the return for, say, Kenley Jansen. If he cant throw enough strikes at best he'll be a reliever and if so will he even be as good as 2.5 years of Adam? He's talented and there's time for him to out it together but you have to be able throw strikes consistently enough. Its hardly a given he will.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 28, 2024 10:24:35 GMT -5
Is there something I’m missing here? The price the Padres paid doesn’t seem that crazy. On MLB site, Lesko is the Padres #3 prospect ( #76 top 100), Bush Jr. #8 and more tbd. That is a high price. Lesko has a big arm but at this point has no idea how to pitch. He's just a thrower. He cannot throw strikes and he's giving up a ton of runs in the minors. The Padres might have given the Rays their next Luis Patino. I dont think the rest of the cost was prohibitive. Wish the Sox could have made that move. Trade a big arm with no control and little else for a guy as reliable as Adam.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 28, 2024 8:33:07 GMT -5
Still gutted this morning; not going to get past this loss anytime soon. Feels like an inflection point in the season to me, just when I was back on-board. You'll feel better if they win today. Just can't lose this series. I'd feel better if they won today but I'll still be pissed about last night and honestly even with Houck today I wonder if they bounce back. As much as I'd like then to win the series today I do deep down realize that it doesnt matter that much. It's not like a loss today eliminates them. I'm coming to the realization that eventually Baltimore and even the Yankees will play better and the Sox arent that likely to catch them and it really doesnt matter, as much as being in 1st place has been ingrained in me. They just have to pass 1 of KC or Minnesota. That's it. It isnt that tall an order. If they cant do something as manageable as that is then the hell with them, they deserve to make it. Despite all the craziness we've seen I think eventually theyll get their act together enough to make up a 1 game deficit with 59 left to play. The teams below the Sox arent impressive so I think they just need to focus on catching one or both of KC or Minnesota. Maybe in 25 or 26 it wont require an outside chance to win the division and in the future they can play for a 1st round bye rather than worrying if theyll make it into the playoffs or not. They're just not quite there yet. Of course remind me of all this BS should the Yankees beat them tonight and the sky is falling, lol.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 28, 2024 8:23:36 GMT -5
If Grissom comes back and establishes himself there could be a scenario when Campbell plays 2b and Grissom winds up at 3b with Devers getting DH ABs. Thought I feel Devers has actually been a lot better at 3b this year than in years past, and yes, who knows if Grissom can handle 3b? I think that's less likely, but possible. More likely one of them winds up at 2b and the other is traded...or both wind up gone if they feel Yorke is the guy at 2b. At some point soon theyll have to make a decision as to who they see as their 2b of the future and trade the others away. The other option is that Campbell eventually replaces O'Neill, whom I dont think will be back after this year. In a perfect world he accepts a QO, but I think he can do better than that and will be gone. That could open up some OF ABs but even that's a bit of a stretch as Rafaela sooner or later will wind up in CF. Whether its Story until he breaks down or Mayer emerging, eventually SS will be spoken for and Rafaela will wind up in CF with Duran in LF. Grissom and Kampbell could both end up in the outfield (left field likely). That’s where the Braves saw Grissom. Campbell has been playing the outfield in the minors. I am not sure I see them as blocking each other. Maybe in 2025 if O'Neill is gone, Story is injured, and Mayer isnt ready so Rafaela is needed for SS and Duran is needed for CF, that could open up LF a bit and the other could play 2b, providing that Hamilton isnt the preferred option and Yourke has been dealt away. Or there's the wild card of perhaps Breslow somehow succeeds in trading Yoshida and opening up DH ABs. I think there's a lot of scenarios that need to play out in which both arent competing for 2b and the presence of all of Hamilton, Yorke, and Valdez complicates the matter. I think Breslow will be trading away 2b this offseason, whittling down his options, and then will go with whoever they decide to keep. I think Valdez will go. Hamilton will be in a super utility insurance role, and then one or even two of Yorke, Grissom, and Campbell will be gone in a trade for pitching or a RH bat (I would guess pitching).
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 28, 2024 8:10:19 GMT -5
If Grissom comes back and establishes himself there could be a scenario when Campbell plays 2b and Grissom winds up at 3b with Devers getting DH ABs. Thought I feel Devers has actually been a lot better at 3b this year than in years past, and yes, who knows if Grissom can handle 3b?
I think that's less likely, but possible. More likely one of them winds up at 2b and the other is traded...or both wind up gone if they feel Yorke is the guy at 2b. At some point soon theyll have to make a decision as to who they see as their 2b of the future and trade the others away. The other option is that Campbell eventually replaces O'Neill, whom I dont think will be back after this year. In a perfect world he accepts a QO, but I think he can do better than that and will be gone. That could open up some OF ABs but even that's a bit of a stretch as Rafaela sooner or later will wind up in CF. Whether its Story until he breaks down or Mayer emerging, eventually SS will be spoken for and Rafaela will wind up in CF with Duran in LF.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 28, 2024 8:03:16 GMT -5
Glad I didnt waste my time watching extra innings. If you cant get out Grisham to won the game, you deserve to lose. So they've let him, Kiké Hernandez in the same game twice beat them, and Sam the slugger Hilliard beat them. Its embarrassing. Anybody notice Kenley Jansen hasn't been the same since pitching his 2nd inning of relief last during the last game before the all star break? He can't pitch 2 innings no matter how much teat he has. He's been failing and the entire middle relief corps have been failing. Yes, they miss Martin and Slayen, but they all shouldn't suck this bad. Also dont understand pitching Anderson over Criswell. The guy is a torch. I hope they DFA him. Absolutely disgusting. The good news is they dont have to pass Baltimore and New York. Just pass KC or Minnesota. They still can do thay but they gotta stop shooting themselves in the foot. I hope they dint have to get ripped off to improve this f'd up bullpen which has absolutely killed them. Re: Anderson vs Criswell, Criswell threw over 100 pitches on the 23rd, so yesterday was only his fourth rest day after that. I don't hate getting him normal rest before using him. What I do hate is Cora pulling Crawford early, not prioritizing length from anyone else, and having Anderson be the only guy with a pulse come the 10th. I think Criswell could have given them an inning or 2. Guys throw in between starts, but it might not have mattered anyways. Criswell is probably the only guy without a swollen ERA since the all star break but he probably would have given it up to Soto and Judge anyways. The way Crawford was pitching, it was defensible to remove him given that the man has been a linats lately giving up a HR per inning. The problem is there is no place you can turn to in the pen right now where you have confidence. You know some reliever you turn to will fail and sabotage the game in the process. Its damn frustrating. I keep hoping that Martin and Slaten come back quickly and effective which could be a tall order or that Hendrik getsxready quickly and dominates September like he used to, which is a lot to ask. I could see them getting Luis Garcia, which isnt exciting. I like Fairbanks and Finnegan but given how much Estevez, who I wanted, will cost, I'd be worried about that. I like Finnegan, but he does give up too many HRs, so he'd fit right in, lol. Theyll probably get Garcia or some Hansel Robles type. Fact of the matter is it dont matter who they get as much as Jansen and everybody else needs to get their act together and stop blowing ballgames.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 28, 2024 0:08:06 GMT -5
Glad I didnt waste my time watching extra innings. If you cant get out Grisham to win the game, you deserve to lose. So they've let him, Kiké Hernandez in the same game twice beat them, and Sam the slugger Hilliard beat them. Its embarrassing.
Anybody notice Kenley Jansen hasn't been the same since pitching his 2nd inning of relief last during the last game before the all star break? He can't pitch 2 innings no matter how much rest he has.
He's been failing and the entire middle relief corps have been failing. Yes, they miss Martin and Slaten, but they all shouldn't suck this bad.
Also dont understand pitching Anderson over Criswell. The guy is a torch. I hope they DFA him.
Absolutely disgusting. The good news is they dont have to pass Baltimore and New York. Just pass KC or Minnesota. They still can do that but they gotta stop shooting themselves in the foot.
I hope they dont have to get ripped off to improve this f'd up bullpen which has absolutely killed them.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 21:37:26 GMT -5
That's a guaranteed loss.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 21:36:47 GMT -5
I'm going to watch a movie with my son. Dont think this is going to end well.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 21:33:48 GMT -5
Cool, we get to watch a walkoff I'd rather have seen an 8-7 victory. Instead we probably get an aggravating extra inning loss.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 21:29:54 GMT -5
This fucking bullpen. Cant get out a .180 hitter
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 21:21:59 GMT -5
There's no chance Kenley gets them 1-2-3 and spares me the heart palpitations, is there? Nope. Too much to ask.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 21:17:49 GMT -5
There's no chance Kenley gets them 1-2-3 and spares me the heart palpitations, is there?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 21:08:51 GMT -5
Geez. Hope the offense can find away to score off Kahnle
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 21:06:48 GMT -5
Geez, the bullpen has to give up a wall ball to get an out.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 21:03:59 GMT -5
I’ve got a bad feeling about this… Me, too. They're asking for trouble and I dont feel good about the Sox doing anything off Kahnle
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 21:03:18 GMT -5
Great. Horn faces 3 guys and lets 2 of them reach and we get to see Kelly face Judge and Wells, 2 guys who hit bombs off him. Fantastic.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 20:56:16 GMT -5
Not scoring those 2 runs could very well come back to haunt them.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 20:52:46 GMT -5
Who’s the 26 man move for Paxton though? Weissert and Booser have options. Horn will likely get optioned.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 20:50:22 GMT -5
I'd give him one, but somebody will give him a 3 or 4 year deal. then the Red Sox will get a second round pick They will.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 20:49:52 GMT -5
That sucked. They need 2 more runs
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 20:48:09 GMT -5
Nice. I'd love a 2 run single.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 20:47:36 GMT -5
I'd give him one, but somebody will give him a 3 or 4 year deal.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 20:46:56 GMT -5
Need a big hit
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