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Post by Mike Andrews on Jul 16, 2013 13:47:47 GMT -5
Seems like you are indirectly asking if the rankings of those players are solely based on draft round. In that case, the answer is no. But I will admit that we are generally spit-balling initial rankings based off of trusted third party scouting reports until we have a chance to get to see the players ourselves. Which hopefully will happen soon.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jul 13, 2013 6:42:06 GMT -5
I wanted to let everyone know that we surpassed our goal for the annual donation drive, and we should be able to keep SoxProspects.com free for another year. Thanks to the 126 different people donated! Participants ranged from local students who gave what they could, to a few local writers who chipped in, to a prominent local attorney who made an extremely generous donation. Thanks again to everyone, it's really appreciated. We'll make sure to put the funds to good use.
Cheers, The SoxProspects Team
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jul 12, 2013 13:28:20 GMT -5
We have a database that has built in formulas for all of the relevant signing rules. Occasionally there are data entry errors, and every once in a while there are facts missing (like exact signing date). But right now everything should be all set.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jul 11, 2013 14:22:08 GMT -5
Thanks folks
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jul 9, 2013 14:52:23 GMT -5
You're right. I've updated.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jul 4, 2013 16:03:20 GMT -5
Will not be ranked until signings are final.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 22, 2013 19:48:04 GMT -5
Adams signing should be official in the next couple days.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 15, 2013 12:56:25 GMT -5
Thank you Don!
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 14, 2013 14:08:25 GMT -5
We may have an interim (non-Friday) rankings update this week once we have official confirmation of draft signings.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 14, 2013 14:07:32 GMT -5
Link should be back up and running. Sorry about that.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 14, 2013 12:42:22 GMT -5
Dear readers, We’re asking for your help to help raise $3,000 to help keep SoxProspects.com free for another year. We've kept the site 100% free to the public for just shy of ten years now, and we hope to do so for the foreseeable future. As you may have also noticed, we continue to expand and improve our content, including new features, everyday coverage, first-hand analysis, improved layouts, and a new forum host. Unfortunately, costs continue to pile up with these expanded features. As we've done over the past five seasons, we're reaching out to the community for donations to help keep the site free for everyone. Donations help cover site costs in two primary areas: (1) first-hand coverage costs for scouting and player columns; and (2) web hosting fees (including forum hosting costs). Your donations help us travel to Ft. Myers in the spring to cover spring training and in the fall to cover the Instructional League. They also help cover the costs of travelling to Pawtucket, Portland, Salem, Greenville, and Lowell games for scouting and first-hand coverage. In terms of web hosting costs, the site resides on four servers, each with their own set of annual fees. We anticipate that our costs in these two areas will exceed $10,000 in 2013. While we make limited funds from online advertising revenue, we simply don’t make enough to cover all of our costs. In each of the last four years, several readers made donations ranging from $5 to $200 to help defray these costs. Thanks so much to everyone who chipped in! One thing I’d like to note is that while we've remained free, other similar baseball sites charge for content. For example, Scout.com costs $90 per year, Baseball America charges $66 per year, and Baseball Prospectus costs $39.95 per year. I think those sites are great in their own right, and are absolutely worthy of subscriptions. I’d also like to think we’d be worthy of comparable rates if we ever decide to go that route, but we've decided that we want to keep the site free for as long as we can. Donations from regular readers go a long way towards making that happen. Ultimately, through draft signing season, we are asking our readers to donate what they can to help keep SoxProspects.com free to the public. If you want to donate, first, we would like to thank you profusely – it’s truly appreciated. To donate, visit our DONATIONS PAGE. All payments are secured through PayPal, although you don’t need a PayPal account to contribute. All of the donations will go directly to our costs – none of the owners have taken out a dollar of profit out of the site's tills over the last six years (obviously we’re not doing this to get rich!). Last, to any of our regular readers that are not members of the SoxProspects Forum, please sign up! We’d love to get some new members in on the discussion and some new ideas floated around during our peak season! And to all of our current forum members out there, don’t be afraid to start new discussion threads – especially threads on specific players. It would be great to get more player-centric discussion going on the board in addition to the other topics already being discussed. As always, thanks to all of our readers for visiting the site and all of our forum members for posting! Sincerely, SoxProspects.com
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 9, 2013 19:51:46 GMT -5
I don't know why you guys have mike Adams signing for so little. I would expect under slot, but he is not a senior and he is a decent player. He's about on par with Dylan Chavez, who got less than $100K.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 9, 2013 18:26:46 GMT -5
If the 3rd pick is protected, and Denney is a high school kid who didn't get picked in round 1 or 2, I'm offering him 1.3 mil AT MOST and we still get his pick next year if he declines plus the money not used signing him overslot could be very useful with other overslot options. Correct me if I'm wrong but we seem to have a lot of leverage here. He may turn it down but if I were his Dad I'd say "let me help drive you to the bank son". We should play to win. Offer under slot some to Stank and Ball and don't go crazy offering Denney tons of cash. We have leverage which each of those guys. We should remember that there is a real good chance we still get all of them, plus an opportunity for 2-3 more over slot guys if we play this right. If one or 2 turn it down we get protected picks in next year's strong draft year. We should maximize our utility for gain as they say in the field of economics. You can offer whatever you want but the player's gotta accept. I don't have any question in my mind that the front office will offer lower than slot on every single player. You only get so many opportunities to bring in A prospects. IMO, you don't screw around with that in order to target 3 C-level prospects.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 9, 2013 17:43:11 GMT -5
Here are my "super wicked early speculative gut check predictions" for signing season.
TOP TEN ROUNDS - ALL SIGN 1 Trey Ball $3,246,000 2 Teddy Stankiewicz $700,000 3 Jon Denney $1,700,000 4 Myles Smith $400,000 5 Corey Littrell $300,000 6 Jordon Austin $25,000 7 Mike Adams $50,000 8 Forrestt Allday $1,000 9 Kyle Martin $1,000 10 Taylor Grover $1,000
AFTER 10TH ROUND, ABOVE SLOT 13 Jordan Sheffield $825,000 (only counts for $725K against pool)
AFTER 10TH ROUND, $100K OR LESS (does not count towards pool) 11 Carlos Asuaje 12 Jake Drehoff 14 Jake Romanski 15 Bryan Hudson 16 Jalen Williams 17 Joseph Monge 18 Joe Gunkel 19 Gabe Speier 21 Reed Gragnani 23 Jimmy Allen 24 Jantzen Witte 28 Nick Zammarelli 29 Jeff Driskel 34 Danny Bethea
Total Pool Number for this projection: $7,161,000 Red Sox Pool Limit +5%: $7,171,710
$7,171,710
DOES NOT SIGN 20 Derek Burkamper 22 Ryan Boldt 25 Derik Beauprez 26 Mauricio Dubon 27 Marc Nowaczewski 30 Nick Longhi 31 Ryan Rippee 32 Matt Thaiss 33 Andrew Rosa 35 Rafael Oliveras 36 Pat Goetze 37 Max Watt 38 Trevor Morrison 39 KJ Trader 40 Ryan Lidge
Notes: I don't think that anybody on the list is impossible, although some have said they don't plan to sign. The most difficult to sign will be Boldt. If all of the cards fall right in the best case scenario in the top ten rounds, it seems like there's a chance that the team could have somewhere slightly north of $1 million to play with. Boldt wanted over $2 million. So that's still probably not enough to sign him, but at least there's room for conversation. And that also means that Sheffield would not sign.
I have no idea if Sheffield would sign for $825K. But that's around the neighborhood for his skill set and taking his leverage into consideration. If he doesn't sign, I could see that money going to some combination of Longhi, Thaiss, and/or Morrison.
I don't see anybody else deserving a bonus significantly over $100K. Asuaje is a distinct possibility to go over $100K, but it doesn't seem like he has much leverage, and it's definitely possible he agreed to a number on Friday night before he was drafted on Saturday.
Again, it's super early and we haven't had a chance to ask around yet. NOTE: Now this kind of looks like I'm copying Hatfield in a way, but I'm sure he can attest to the fact that I shared an earlier draft of my thoughts with him yesterday. I modified this morning and was only able to post now.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 4, 2013 16:09:42 GMT -5
Will send this over to Mike Reynolds to fix. It looks like the DSL Red Sox changed divisions.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 4, 2013 13:16:00 GMT -5
I worked as recently as a couple days ago. It might just be down.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 1, 2013 15:37:03 GMT -5
We rank Workman highly, but he had a 4.82 ERA, 1.50 WHIP, and OPP BA of .292 in May.
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Post by Mike Andrews on May 27, 2013 15:54:59 GMT -5
The difference between being ranked 51 and 61 is very very small in my eyes, and can easily be made up in a 1-2 week stretch, especially when we have eyes on the player. I have no shame in saying that. Same thing can happen with the 51st and 61st player taken in any draft in any sport in any year.
Guapo, you seem to be going in with the assumption that Betts was a highly regarded player coming out of high school, and I disagree with that premise. He wasn't in BA's top 200, he wasn't in PG's top 500. He was a raw 5th round pick who was given a mid-sized bonus to buy him out of a two sport commitment. He was a C- level prospect coming out of high school. We ranked him that way to start. Then we probably saw him two dozen times between two springs and Lowell, and continued to rank him as a C- level prospect up until this week. Sure, he dropped from 52 to just out of the top 60 after hitting .150 in April, but he was still a C- prospect in my eyes.
Now after a good 4 week run, he's showing that he might be a C+ level prospect. That's all there is to it in my eyes.
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Post by Mike Andrews on May 18, 2013 14:17:59 GMT -5
50th ranked prospect. Terry Doyle and Kolbrin Vitek are ranked higher. There are nowhere close to 50 better prospects in the system than Betts. I think most who follow the minor leagues will agree with that. David, I really respect your work quite a bit and always enjoy bumping into you at the ballparks. However, it seems like several of your posts have been geared towards calling out the site for significantly under-rating certain prospects. From touching base over the years, I'm sure you know that we really appreciate the counter-opinions from the members of the SP community (yours included) and often take them into consideration when we adjust the prospect rankings - especially if those opinions are backed up by first-hand observations or statistical data. And I'll be the first to admit that prospect rankings are subjective and that we're not even close to being always right. Not even close. We could certainly be way off with Betts right now - we continue to have internal discussions about it after scouting him many times. But with all due respect, a substantial portion of the players that you've opined that the site was vastly under-ranking over the years have not panned out. Off the top of my head, I want to say that the list includes Jeff Corsaletti, Adam Mills, Zach Daeges, Jon Still, Derrik Gibson, Bubba Bell, Chris Hernandez, Pete Ruiz, Chris Turner, and Reid Engel. (Admittedly, Hernandez and Ruiz could still become solid relievers). If I'm wrong on some of those names, mea culpa. I'm not trying to call you out or start an argument, but you gotta see a pattern here.
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Post by Mike Andrews on May 9, 2013 16:46:22 GMT -5
Players the 60-day DL is a major-league disabled list, so yes, he'd need to be "called up" in a technical sense. Wouldn't need to be with the team or anything, but he would collect a Major League paycheck. Is it that simple, though? I can't find any provision in the rules for moving a player from the minor league 7-day DL to the major league 60-day DL. He was optioned to the minors 3/12, started the season on the PawSox roster, then placed on the PawSox DL 4/7 (retroactive to 4/4, the date of the first PawSox game). Though he didn't play for the PawSox, I think if they didn't establish his injury while he was on the major league roster in spring, he can't be placed now on the major league DL due to an injury incurred while on a minor league roster. (Or, more specifically, I think they'd actually have to activate him as a major leaguer, then DL him, which would restart the clock.) I realize it's irrelevant for now, and it's possible that players on the 25-man will continue to develop crippling injuries faster than players either get added to the 40-man or recover from DL stints and need roster spots, but I'd be interested to know if they could switch him to the 60-day so easily. Also, I kind of hope De La Torre doesn't actually make his debut until tomorrow, because I'd like to be there with the camera. So I'm hoping for the Lackey CG. I'm with Kelly. My opinion is that this would not be legal, without restarting the clock.
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Post by Mike Andrews on May 2, 2013 15:02:37 GMT -5
I think he will actually be arbitration eligible.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Apr 26, 2013 15:26:17 GMT -5
Welcome Chris! Great idea for a thread. I feel like we had one of these on EZBoard years ago, but haven't had one in a while.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Apr 23, 2013 16:07:39 GMT -5
I’m starting this thread to encourage readers that are not members of the SoxProspects Forum to please sign up! Whether you've been visiting the site for 10 years or you just found it today, we’d love to get some new members, new opinions, new insights, etc. from other Red Sox fans, fans of the respective affiliates, or fans/friends of specific players. We really want to get some new members in on the discussion and some new ideas floated around as the season kicks into gear. We could really use some new blood! For our current members, don’t be afraid to start new discussion threads – especially threads on specific players. It would be great to get more player-centric discussion going on the Forum in addition to the other topics already being discussed. Additionally, I’ll ask that you please take it easy and treat new members with the same level of respect that you would treat staff members and other veteran members of the site. If new members feel that is not the case, feel free to email me, take it up in the Meta Forum, or contact one of the mods. We will look into it. For the moderators, I’ll ask that you go easy on policing new threads, as long as they comply with the Forum Ground Rules. Cheers, Mike Andrews
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Post by Mike Andrews on Apr 18, 2013 16:38:44 GMT -5
Does it work ok now?
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Post by Mike Andrews on Apr 17, 2013 12:45:57 GMT -5
I put in another ticket.
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