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Post by 07redsox on Dec 7, 2022 15:19:21 GMT -5
Well that's just sad by Gammons, used to love him but he's definitely lost a step. If Xandy signs Olney is gonna be eating some crow too. With his tweets that the Red Sox bungled another negotiation and are on the verge of losing another face of the franchise and borderline bashing the sox. Not to mention basically spending the last week writing stories mainly about the Padres and sounding like he worked for AJ preller with some of his crap. Meanwhile the Padres haven't done crap except for supposedly offer more money to multiple free agents with nothing to show for it. I don't feel like anyone eats crow. Bloom probably wanted to move on if Xander ended up wanting more than what they felt he was worth. The ownership group initially was on board with it, and then Henry heard a shit ton of negativity from the fan base and told Bloom to get it done. Essentially why Henry was involved last night or the night before. It just seems like a random philosophical shift has happened over the last 24 hours or so. Wouldn't be the first time Henry did something based on the reaction from the fanbase. So you don’t believe Bloom when he has said multiple times that Bogaerts is their priority, but you do believe all of the negative media noise that has been coming out over the past few weeks? That is an interesting take... Multi-million dollar organizations (including sports team) aren’t changing directions over 24 hours because of media/perception. It’s also hard to change directions when they have been upfront about their direction of being interested in him anyway.
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Post by 07redsox on Dec 5, 2022 22:53:03 GMT -5
Add- Cubs also in on Sean Murphy. Could be a big off-season for them. There’s also a scenario where I walk out the door of my home and find a lottery ticket that wins me millions. Neither are all that likely to happen. The level with which “reporting” has gotten to nowadays in the media is depressing at times.
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Post by 07redsox on Dec 5, 2022 12:18:52 GMT -5
He had Boras as his agent when he signed his extension a couple years ago, so not the greatest example of this And Boras was very on the record as being pissed about the discount Xander took, and made it clear there would be no discount next time. So ya, he was hitting free agency The point is that saying he has Boras means he is automatically going to free agency completely ignores the extension that Xander signed. It comes down to the player and what they want. Just because Boras is involved doesn’t always mean it’s 100% guaranteed and Xander is an example of that just by looking at his first extension (and hopefully not last!) Boras can say he’s pissed all he wants, but it comes down to wether the player listens to what he says or not. Xander clearly didn’t the first time.
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Post by 07redsox on Dec 5, 2022 12:03:27 GMT -5
He took a hometown discount in the past; maybe he would've again. Or like I said, maybe not. But why didn't the team at least ask the question? Anyway, the way this is playing out is moving me back to what I thought when they signed Story, which is that they just don't think Bogaerts is a good long-term fit for the team and they're not that interested in keeping him. Which is a bummer.
He also has Boras as his agent... You dont hire Boras if you are not going to FA.... He had Boras as his agent when he signed his extension a couple years ago, so not the greatest example of this
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Post by 07redsox on Dec 4, 2022 19:09:02 GMT -5
Just a thought, but could their reported interest in Abreu have been to potentially open up more opportunities for a Casas trade for one of the players that have been discussed here? Not sure how I would feel about that overall without seeing a full potential deal, but the interest in Abreu seems to logically lead there.
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Post by 07redsox on Oct 16, 2022 7:45:43 GMT -5
My curmudgeonly opinion is that the Phillies are a pretty mediocre team and the new playoff system getting them into the NLCS instead of an actual quality team is not very good for baseball. The bright side is that everything the Phillies do well makes Joe Girardi look more and more incompetent. While I understand your point completely and in some ways don’t necessarily disagree with it, I think saying it’s not very good for baseball isn’t very true either depending on perspective. These games so far have been spectacularly fun and exciting to watch. I know personally I wouldn’t have cared for an NLCS as much as I will this one if it featured the Dodgers. I think there are many people who greatly enjoy seeing the underdog win or different teams making it further in the playoffs each year, rather than see the same Dodgers v Astros WS over and over again. If it’s not the Sox, then I pretty much always root for the underdog in each series during the playoffs. The playoff system/seeding may need some work, but something like this happening can really only happen in baseball, which is why I partly feel it is wonderful to see and can be very good for the game. Even the best team is still going to be defeated from time to time because their win percentage isn’t usually all that far off from a coin flip depending on matchups, starters, etc. That’s just not all that true in other sports for the most part. For people who always want it to be the best team winning, I can definitely see why it’s not all that good for the sport. However, because of the differences compared to other sports, I’m not entirely sure how many people actually want to see the best team win anyway. The fact that upsets can and somewhat regularly do happen in baseball during the playoffs probably leads to this. I’m not sure how the seeding can be changed to make this happen other than going back to earlier playoff systems with less teams, but even those had their problems as well.
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Post by 07redsox on Aug 13, 2022 21:50:43 GMT -5
genuinely embarrassing take, even in the heat of the moment Keep defending that choking dog who has been sulking for weeks, i find that to be more embarrassing At least JD showed up last night When has he sulked other than directly after the trade deadline? I’m seriously asking and genuinely curious. All I have seen is comments/reports right after the deadline. On the other hand, if you are equating his bad play lately to mean he’s sulking, then that has more to do about you and your interpretation than it does him.
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Post by 07redsox on Aug 2, 2022 14:59:34 GMT -5
If the Padres chip-in 31.8mil, then the Red Sox will have him for free (for luxury tax purposes) for the next 3 years. If the Padres chip-in more, the Red Sox would receive a luxury tax credit and could spend more on other players. A great prospect instead would be ideal, but I'd rather get the money than a flier, or another 40-man eligible, type guy. Gives them time to wait on Casas and depth if they trade Martinez. I don't think it affects Dalbec much, if at all, currently. How would the Padres eating less than the money owed for the next 3 seasons on Hosmer give the sox a $0 luxury tax hit on Hosmer? Perhaps I am missing something but that doesn't seem correct to me? Not sure how this works for luxury tax purposes or if this is the reason why, but his original contract was extremely front loaded I believe. He only has 3/$39 left, but he was making $20 million or so a year for the first handful of years of the contract.
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Post by 07redsox on Aug 1, 2022 19:40:09 GMT -5
Why in the world would the Sox offer CV the qualifying offer if they kept him? Because he's the 2nd best C in the FA class and 1 year $18M dollar deal for Vasquez isn't terrible when you need a catcher and have a ton of roster flexibility after gutting your roster at the deadline. IF CV wants 4/40+ deal then he'd likely reject the Q/O and at least you'd get a pick. No one would have given him a contract like that AND given up a draft pick. If they were to offer him the qualifying offer he would have immediately accepted. They would not be getting a pick and would take an 18-19 million dollar hit to the luxury tax for next season when they have plenty of places to upgrade if they even want to consider competing. And the fact that they traded him is probably a huge sign that they wouldn’t offer it to him to begin with.
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Post by 07redsox on Aug 1, 2022 19:26:10 GMT -5
Don't like losing out on the Q/O (And draft pick comp) to land two fringe 40 man utility players. Why in the world would the Sox offer CV the qualifying offer if they kept him?
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Post by 07redsox on Aug 1, 2022 18:55:12 GMT -5
Did you know: some stats are league-adjusted!! Like wRC+. Valdez had a 178 wRC+ in AA and 118 in AAA. I am aware. Pointing to someones hitting prowless in probably the best hitting league in the minors is useless though. Good exit velocity lets see if it translates. Rather have two pitchers You are contradicting yourself. Pointing to wRC+ is the exact opposite of useless for the very reason that it is league adjusted.
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Post by 07redsox on Aug 1, 2022 7:28:36 GMT -5
Value over winning? Value directly results in winning. Oooh, show me that proof, please. The two most successful teams in terms of winning divisions and staying consistently above .500 have set the market for free agents. Yes, Boston has won more championships, but it has been shown that the playoffs in baseball are often coin flips (i.e. the best team rarely gets to or wins the WS, although that did happen, record-wise in 2018). So the name of the game is winning consistently, preferably Divisions in the new system, and avoiding the rollercoaster. The two teams that have done that consistently are LAD and (grrrr) NYY. Both those teams are consistently over the tax - LAD 6 times in the last 10 years, NYY 7 times - and filled with market-setting free agents and sprinkled with homegrown players or trade-acquired players. This seems to be the opposite of "value = wins." The examples you just gave screams value to me, so I guess it depends on how you look at it. Yes, they have large contracts (as they should), but as you mentioned they also have homegrown/low cost players sprinkled in as well. Those lower paid/higher value players allow for money to be spent on other contracts. How many times, even this season, are we sitting here saying how in the world did the MFY get the type of production that they did out of nowhere? I think the issues is the Sox, for whatever reason, don’t seem to hit as big/as often on those types of deals. Are they exploring getting value in other ways? Who knows if it will work out well. If they low ball their star players and don’t end up signing them then obviously it isn’t a good thing. The point is that value definitely can lead to winning, but the Sox don’t exactly seem to be following that same type of value you described, at least not right at this moment.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 31, 2022 20:56:58 GMT -5
It seems JD is completely tied to the luxury tax. The other teams have all the leverage right now. He’s the easiest way to get under for the Sox and other teams can get a middle of the order bat for pennies. If it wasn’t for the luxury tax, would they even want to trade him? I don’t think so. If not, either get him back next year or a second rounder if they get under. At this point, either of those are more valuable than dealing him for a fringe prospect. So I bet they get leverage back on their side by dealing other guys first to get under (Eovaldi, Vazquez obviously main candidates, maybe JBJ just to get under). They’ll get legit dudes for those two anyway and then they are under the tax and have all the leverage with JD. If they can trade other players to get under the luxury tax like you suggested (which they can), then JD isn’t completely tied to the luxury tax and the other teams don’t have all the leverage. They only would if JD was the only way to get under the luxury tax. And reports suggest that getting under isn’t absolutely necessary depending on the return. Whether JD returns a decent prospect either way is an entirely different question though.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 31, 2022 9:04:13 GMT -5
That seems like a lot. JD is 2 for 40. It is, but Benintendi went for 2 45 prospects plus and Castillo went for 4 prospects including 2 55's and a 50. It's a seller's market. Castillo has another year before he’s a free agent, so not exactly the same thing.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 30, 2022 6:28:43 GMT -5
Those surprised by the Castillo return need to keep in mind that he’s been one of the best pitchers in baseball this year (he’s always had the stuff to be great and started to put it together more last year. This year he has taken it to the next level). He’s also not a free agent until after the 2023 season, so the Mariners are getting 1.5 year of him and not just the second half of 2022.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 28, 2022 18:52:35 GMT -5
How many SS in the AL are at higher WAR? War is not the be all end all stat. Neither are home runs. I don’t disagree that it’s concerning that his power has seemed to disappear, but he hasn’t been anywhere near bad this season.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 17, 2022 22:41:38 GMT -5
I think his point is more the fact that those aren’t second round picks. I believe they are just comp picks. They received one for Jud not signing and another for losing Rodriguez, but neither of them technically occur in the second round. The Jud pick is in the second round. It takes place one pick later one year later always, no matter what. That makes more sense! Was reading the draft tracker very wrong and seeing comp next to their pick. Either need new glasses or to go to bed..or both.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 17, 2022 22:35:00 GMT -5
Who gave them a second one? 41 was the pick from Fabian not signing last year, we lost our natural second round pick from signing Story, and we got pick 79 as compensation for Erod turning down the qualifying offer and going to Detroit.
I think his point is more the fact that those aren’t second round picks. I believe they are just comp picks. They received one for Jud not signing and another for losing Rodriguez, but neither of them technically occur in the second round.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 17, 2022 22:32:39 GMT -5
Who gave them a second one? Jud or the Detroit tigers Neither of those are 2nd round picks.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 17, 2022 21:30:51 GMT -5
That’s all well and good (and to an extent, I agree with you), but who at 24 is the elite or potential elite talent you are talking about? When they had the opportunity for that, like you mentioned, they took Mayer. Looking at who was available at 24, no one stands out as elite or potential elite. This draft has been talked about for a while as being very deep, but not too heavy on elite talent that will be available. The 20-60 or so ranked players are potentially so close together (where the deep draft talk comes from) that ranking them is basically a crapshoot. You are looking for certain things that stand out to you, and if it saves money for overshot later, even better. For all we know that’s exactly what this pick was. Personally a porter pick ( THE high school best player this year) would seem like a potential elite talent. You can’t ever predict injury. Time will tell who’s right for sure. The fact that you have to use the word “seem” kind of shows the point though. There’s no one at 24 that they are going to pick that anyone is going to know for sure is that kind of can’t miss elite type prospect that you were comparing to Mayer to. The fact that Trout was drafted near the end of the first round shows how much of a crapshoot the draft is. Porter would have been great, but there are so many different factors in the MLB draft that makes it different from other sports. In the end we have to wait and see how the rest of the draft shakes out to really judge it, and even then we won’t know for sure for years.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 17, 2022 21:14:59 GMT -5
We can handle criticism, just valid criticism from people who actually have a point. I would say taking “ok” talent ahead of solid talent time after time after time is a rightful criticism. Rightfully time will tell but the philosophy seems to be “be cheap for more options even if it’s cost of elite or potential elite talent”. Granted I loved the Mayer pick last year. But he was the elite player. And is showing as such That’s all well and good (and to an extent, I agree with you), but who at 24 is the elite or potential elite talent you are talking about? When they had the opportunity for that, like you mentioned, they took Mayer. Looking at who was available at 24, no one stands out as elite or potential elite. This draft has been talked about for a while as being very deep, but not too heavy on elite talent that will be available. The 20-60 or so ranked players are potentially so close together (where the deep draft talk comes from) that ranking them is basically a crapshoot. You are looking for certain things that stand out to you, and if it saves money for overshot later, even better. For all we know that’s exactly what this pick was.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 17, 2022 20:38:37 GMT -5
That feeling when you don't see the name on the 1st page of the MLB draft tracker, then not on the 2nd page... but they've been very good at talent evaluation and they must think he might not be there next so I trust them. Going under-slot to go for over-slot at the next two spots? Except he is in the top half of the second page.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 3, 2022 16:50:36 GMT -5
They were trading for Stallings to be the backup, not to replace Vasquez this year. They signed Plawecki a couple days after the trade didn’t happen. And of course the decision to pick up his option wasn’t automatic considering the year he had. I really don’t think you can read too much into that. If he had the year he is having offensively this year it most like would not have even been a consideration to not pick it up. Plawecki was on his last arbitration year. We don't know who the Sox decision was to keep on Vazquez versus Plawecki. They agreed to the one year contract with Plawecki two days after the Stallings trade. Arbitration or not, the timing is what is important. Vasquez’s option was already picked up well before this trade happened. Unless they were planning to trade Vasquez, which I don’t remember seeing reports about at all, then we most definitely do know what their decision was. The article you posted even talks about exactly what I’m saying.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 3, 2022 16:31:35 GMT -5
They were trading for Stallings to be the backup, not to replace Vasquez this year. They signed Plawecki a couple days after the trade didn’t happen. And of course the decision to pick up his option wasn’t automatic considering the year he had. I really don’t think you can read too much into that. If he had the year he is having offensively this year it most like would not have even been a consideration to not pick it up.
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Post by 07redsox on Jun 26, 2022 14:39:27 GMT -5
Pretty interesting are Jackie's batting splits home and away. You couple his hitting at Fenway along with the big RF cover responsibilities and it's hard to take him out of the lineup when the team is home against a RH starter. The offensive road numbers are terrible I'll grant you. Also I have to feel that having JBJ back, along with the defensive upgrade at 2B with Story, along with better defensive play by Devers and Xander - this has REALLY helped the pitching. Other than some botched plays in April and early May, this team has played pretty well defensively. that's reasonable. Ha. I just not sure it is worth a 25 man roster spot. Good thing rosters are 26 players then
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