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Post by widewordofsport on May 2, 2013 17:41:16 GMT -5
Lavarnway in June? July? 2011 has the record for Portland "holy cow" hot streak. Seemed like a 3-4, HR, 2B every single night.
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Post by widewordofsport on May 2, 2013 17:38:06 GMT -5
Workman might have to get the pitch limits relaxed and show he can hold his stuff deeper into games. Someone suggested he made some mechanical fixes to help that, and if that's true, I could see him in Pawtucket. But really the system is aligned pretty good, and I think there is little need to promote unless Cecchini is just absurdly raking through June.
Marrero is another one who could push for a promotion by the end of the summer, if Bogaerts and Iglesias each move up.
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Post by widewordofsport on May 2, 2013 17:33:27 GMT -5
Barnes was started way low to ease him into pro pitching. There's no prospect like that this year, so IMO, it's kind of a faulty way to look at it. When JBJ hit his way to Portland is a more fair comparison.
And I think Cecchini will be treated like Bogaerts. When the pitchers adjust, he'll struggle, and when he shows the ability to adjust, he'll be bumped up. The FO really hasn't been aggressive with him at all, and given they won't want to add him to the 40 man after the year, probably won't start now.
I do think that if they don't trade Britton, he gets to Pawtucket. Too many starters will be pushing their way to the 40 man, and he's going to have to have some AA success to show he belongs.
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Post by widewordofsport on May 2, 2013 14:17:33 GMT -5
Greenville definitely looks pretty rough this year, but it wasn't that long ago the top end of the system was like that. It's nice in the sense it reflects a lot of talented players advancing in the system (and leaving a few non-prospects or busts behind), and hopefully can get some talent again after the draft this year. Also maybe a few guys like Betts/Vincio heat up, and maybe see Margot or Jerez find their way there.
Right now I see they lost 7-4, and wonder how the heck they got the 4.
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Post by widewordofsport on May 1, 2013 18:07:04 GMT -5
That article on the curve was nice. Really the quotes from Barnes sounded like what you want from a young pitcher, learning, trying to manage pitch counts and use the hitters' aggressiveness, experimenting, etc.
Re: Ranaudo/Workman, the roster situation will be very interesting in Nov. If the trade deadline passes and those two are still pushing the 40 man and Britton gets traded, I could see Britton being moved to a RP in Pawtucket.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 30, 2013 20:24:25 GMT -5
I hope they don't hesitate to promote him Only if they promise to toss him into big league camp and let him make the team so he can develop bad habits.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 30, 2013 19:19:35 GMT -5
Perfect through 6.2 for Workman, may have tired at 75-80 pitches though (2B, BB, 2B), a run in and prob won't make it out of the 7th.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 30, 2013 19:07:38 GMT -5
"I heard that Brandon Workman cleaned up his delivery. "
If that's legit, could push the projection, for sure. Even despite the jerkiness of his delivery, most reports have had him keeping velocity/stuff deep into starts. Just 4 strikeouts, but great pitch efficiency (51 after 5, 64 after 6).
Anyone know what the pitch limit is? 80-ish?
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 30, 2013 19:02:28 GMT -5
Really nice to see two SPs pitching well in AA in the early going, before they have to be on the 40 man. Very much the opposite of Britton/Pimentel.
Ranaudo 39th overall in 2010 draft Workman 52nd overall in 2010 draft
Behind Vitek (20) and Brentz (36)
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 30, 2013 18:37:05 GMT -5
@seadogsradio 6m Brandon Workman has retired the first 12…dominating with every pitch…3 K's. 42 pitches/30 strikes. Portland leads 1-0 after 3
Looks like someone heard the SP podcast say he doesn't have dominating enough stuff to be a starter.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 30, 2013 18:33:30 GMT -5
So far we've got three rations whatever that is, and a Julio Iglesias. Let's clean it up, people.
On the other hand, Workman making a late push for pitcher of the month?
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 29, 2013 0:57:59 GMT -5
"trade Bard to the Padres*"
Can we get Doug Mirabelli back again???
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 29, 2013 0:53:45 GMT -5
If Vazquez comes through the system with Barnes/Ranaudo/Workman, I wonder if that increases his value in the eyes of the FO.
An update on another defense-first C, Federowicz is 0-6 with LAD this year, and killing the PCL in his 5 games there. He's hit great at AAA, but that league doesn't do much to help prospects hit in the majors. Rizzo had/has the same adjustments.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 29, 2013 0:48:31 GMT -5
Cecchini, for me. Coyle hit Salem first, but if Cecchini can show he can handle it when the (small) league adjusts to him, he'll hit Portland in July. Though unlike Ranaudo, I doubt he will hit his way onto the 40 man.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 29, 2013 0:44:15 GMT -5
Ranaudo. He was one of my two picks to really shine this year (along with Jacobs, who will be my pick again an extra year removed from the hamate issue).
I'm not sure if I'm more surprised by his K numbers or his BB numbers, but both are impressive in the early going.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 27, 2013 18:39:33 GMT -5
Thanks, sly. I was wondering.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 26, 2013 14:44:24 GMT -5
I do think Coyle is probably a better prospect than thought, and he was pushed hard. From the sound of it though, he was a lot of work to do in the plate approach to be able to hit enough to realistically be a "20 HR" guy.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 26, 2013 14:39:27 GMT -5
It's sort of like talking about Ellsbury as the CF with the rare gift of 30 HR power.
Boras can talk about the 30 HR season all he wants (and I'm sure he will), but Ellsbury is a CF who once hit 30 HR, not a "30 HR centerfielder"
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 26, 2013 14:36:48 GMT -5
"If Coyle is a decent defender he can hit .260 and still play if he has 20 HR pop."
Is he a 20 hr guy at the ML level? Will he average 18+ over any five seasons?
In his last five seasons, Pedroia has averaged 15 a year. Kinsler has average 20.5 in his career. Coyle isn't going to have nearly the contact those guys, so 20 HR seems like a "one time in a crazy season" projection for Coyle. He may get there if everything falls perfectly, but I don't think it's fair to sell Coyle with that as a projection, unless you really think he has Weeks-Cano-Hill type pop.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 25, 2013 20:40:40 GMT -5
58 pitches in 5 IP for Kukuk, with 2 BBs even. Must have been really pitching to contact. I have no idea what that means at the 'A' level.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 25, 2013 16:24:28 GMT -5
One more note on that, is that I think DeLa Rosa has three option years left, including this one. Given his inconsistency so far, he might normally profile as a pen arm. But given he managed to have Major League service in TWO different years for LAD, without burning an option, he'll have a full year to ramp up this year, and then another two years to show he can harnass his stuff as a SP.
The opposite being someone like Stolmy Pimentel or Drake Britton, who did/might run out of time and options to show they can start.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 25, 2013 16:20:20 GMT -5
"According to the ESPN article written by Joe McDonald, they did not use an option on the call up. Not that reporters have never been wrong..."
They optioned him in March. Pretty sure he used up his 20 days already?
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 25, 2013 16:17:17 GMT -5
He was already 'optioned' to Pawtucket from Spring, so it's all moot anyway, right?
But really, who cares about options with Webster? He's a nearly ML-ready SP with 2 more option years left AFTER 2013. If he isn't ready for a full-time rotation spot by 2016, something went very very wrong.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 23, 2013 15:43:54 GMT -5
1) Can Almanzar stick at 3B defensively, really? 2) What's most important this year to me is his splits vs. good AA pitchers. When he gets good contact off Bundy, Meyer, Taillon, or "League Leading 0.52 ERA Stolmy Pimentel", it'll be a bigger deal to me.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 23, 2013 15:39:21 GMT -5
Chris - yes, I should have made that clearer so it didn't seem like I'm spreading health rumors. Obviously Chiang (.281 OBP last year in AA/AAA, .260 in AA this year) was a smart high-sell two years ago. Almanzar has more of a pedigree and baseline talent, but I do worry it's not something that will be sustained long-term, and I'd rather protect and keep some of the other prospects.
Maybe the best idea for the FO is to keep him, watch him a full year, and he'll either play his way onto the 40 man, or not be good enough to get picked up in the R5D.
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