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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 22, 2023 14:27:18 GMT -5
I'm not sure I buy that. What's the point of replacing Bloom with Breslow if he's going to soft through the bargain bin like Bloom constantly did. I still think Breslow will get Montgomery and/or Imanaga. He'll decide to sign a second free agent or not based on the viability of a trade not being too costly. I mean if they dont bring in significant upgrades the booing at Winterfest will pale in comparison to what last year was. I think when pressured Sox management responds. I think that's what got them to sign Devers long-term, the trying to avoid even more public backlash. I suspect they'll sign Montgomery most likely. Maybe Gioloito winds up the 2nd guy? Theyll spend 200 million plus on the two pitchers. I think the idea might be that Breslow is going to be what Bloom was supposed to be. Meaning a better version of Bloom.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 22, 2023 13:48:16 GMT -5
I don’t know. I am of two minds: 1) sign Monty and Snell, hope chips fall right this year — and one way or the other be interesting. 2) accept that you are too far behind for FA signings to catch you up, sign no one and avoid paying Monty and Snell as they decline (having not even gotten you a ring). Take your lumps, take another good draft pick, bide your time. Sign me up for option two. Those aren’t guys you blow up the wallet for.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 19, 2023 12:25:24 GMT -5
Morosi is reporting that Yamamoto wants to pitch "on the biggest stage", which means, despite how we feel or how much money the Red Sox offer, it's going to be difficult to change his mind if he has his sights set on NY or LA. There is no substitute for vibes, and Boston simply can't match the fanfare of NY or LA, as much as we'd like to think we come close. I disagree that the Red Sox don’t fit the billing as the biggest stage, but it does seem like he wants to be a Yankee.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 18, 2023 14:28:04 GMT -5
Not a great look for Pepen so far.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 16, 2023 19:21:47 GMT -5
This may be a dumb question but $300 million+ over how many years? Are we assuming 10? I’ve seen 9 and 10 I also miss Pedey Pedroia or Pedro? Or the poster on this website? Lol
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 16, 2023 12:55:11 GMT -5
Ok, I'll choose to believe he's fully plugged in and correct. He’s not exactly the gold standard but he is a legitimate guy.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 16, 2023 12:30:23 GMT -5
Marino Pepén @marino_Pepen · 18m Los #RedSox le han hecho una oferta a Yoshinobu Yamamoto de poco más de $300 MM, con cláusulas e incentivos convenientes para las dos partes.
La suerte está echada…
The Red Sox have offered Yamamato a bit more than $300M plus incentive clauses per Pepén.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 15, 2023 18:18:30 GMT -5
May be picking nits but I think it was crime and not homelessness that Posey was implying was an issue. San Francisco is high in crime and drug abuse, but I've never heard anyone from California imply they wouldn't live there for those reasons - it's always only due to cost of living (which is insane). FWIW, Los Angeles has a worse homeless issue than San Francisco - there are some spots in the LA area where you can barely drive down the street due to the homeless encampments. But keep in mind, LA and the bay area are quite large and segregated by wealth/income - hard to imagine a wealthy person coming across these issue and certainly not regularly. Homelessness is a national, not a local or regional problem. There are a number of reasons which won't be discussed here, but it hardly matters what MLB city you'd want to talk about. California has almost a third of the entire country’s homeless population. The scale of homelessness there is another level and primary sources from their own state health agencies describe it as such. By comparison, Massachusetts has a much smaller homeless population even on a per capita basis and a substantially higher portion of them are sheltered. But anyway I don’t think that will factor into the decision. Does anyone think Philly is a legitimate sleeper here?
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 8, 2023 21:31:54 GMT -5
Its Isaiah Campbell not Isaac Campbell : )
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 8, 2023 18:04:04 GMT -5
So far Ive loved the Campbell and O’Neill deals and was fine with the Verdugo one.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 6, 2023 9:09:36 GMT -5
I believe the Yankees control Verdugo’s qualifying offer if he has a good year, no?
Obviously we don’t want our top competitor to be successful. Not only that but rooting against the Yankees is a lot of fun : )
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 5, 2023 22:39:50 GMT -5
I wanted to trade Verdugo at the deadline and think we would’ve got more for him then. Maybe not much more though.
I think this is about exactly what you’d expect in return for Verdugo at this point. I approve of it given I want the team to continue a rebuild and I trust this is the best they could get for him.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 24, 2023 18:59:41 GMT -5
From situational lefty to senior executive!
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 24, 2023 8:26:08 GMT -5
I’d be very happy with Breslow, Romero or Toboni.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 22, 2023 14:38:29 GMT -5
My point was also that Cora is “arguably” better. Not definitely better. Just my opinion that Cora is better. I don’t think Cora would’ve presided over a collapse like 2011. The Red Sox went 9-19 in September this year, and looked absolutely lifeless. While it's not a total collapse, the lifeless play was pathetic to watch, and should be considered when we discuss Cora. This team was nowhere near as talented as 2011. You know that man.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 22, 2023 14:01:14 GMT -5
My point was also that Cora is “arguably” better. Not definitely better. Just my opinion that Cora is better. I don’t think Cora would’ve presided over a collapse like 2011.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 22, 2023 13:00:19 GMT -5
I don’t get the concern about Cora. He’s maybe the thing I’m least concerned about right now. If they hired Eddie and kept Cora that’d be awesome.
They have some time to rebuild their reputation around the league.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 22, 2023 12:32:55 GMT -5
It’s not a bizarre attachment to Cora. He’s arguably the best manager we’ve ever had. What is bizarre about that? On what planet is he better than Francona was? The one where 2011 happened? He was way too much of a players manager. It worked well at times but I much prefer Cora’s approach and I’m sure others do as well. I know it was over a decade ago but some of you guys really seem to not remember Francona’s deficiencies.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 22, 2023 10:27:01 GMT -5
Ya, those 4 World Series wins have been a real problem. It's possible to be both aware, and appreciative, of the success FSG has brought here while recognising the flaws in long term strategy. The fact that no high profile GM wants to even interview for the job in Boston - once among the cream of the crop - is a direct result of Henry's actions. Hiring and firing for the position, then sticking the knife in once it's done, is bound to create a work atmosphere so toxic that few want a part of it. Throw in the overall lack of control and the organisation's bizarre attachment to the immovable Alex Cora and it's easy to see why ownership is taking a lot of heat from the fans. Bloom was, as I recall, the only high profile external candidate to interview after Henry unceremoniously dumped one of the highest regarded GMs in baseball. Then he makes a scapegoat of Bloom without any plan for succession or direction. Lessons aren't being learned. We appear rudderless, aimless and are an embarrassment. This all coinciding with a feeling like Fenway no longer matters much to Fenway Sports Group will inevitably lead to discussions like this. It’s not a bizarre attachment to Cora. He’s arguably the best manager we’ve ever had. What is bizarre about that?
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 22, 2023 9:27:12 GMT -5
Isn't one potential issue with hiring Levine as #1 and Breslow in the #2 spot that it would piss off Romero and the other FO people who are remaining? There's also the possibility Romero will not be happy if he doesn't get the #1 job. Regardless, they finished in last place three of the last four seasons. They need to hire whomever gives them the best chance for sustained excellence. If folks currently on staff aren't worthy of the #1 or #2 slots, oh well. What’s wrong with Eddie though? In curious why he wouldnt be a strong candidate other than not having had the job before. I tend to not be a huge fan of retreads but I will say I loved Dombrowski.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 20, 2023 15:00:53 GMT -5
Lol. They’d just hire internally at that point. Which is a really good thing for organizations to do and what I’ve wanted all along anyway.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 20, 2023 14:43:58 GMT -5
While there are some issues no doubt in the front office, this could still work out really well. Breslow or Romero would be awesome.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 17, 2023 20:06:38 GMT -5
Bloom guys just wait till he has money to spend and young talent, he had both this year. He was fired this year, not years ago. You can change my mind if you actually make sound arguments, this Bloom crap has been nothing but excuses. Even now, talk of him not having enough money, young talent and needing more time. The thing so many people overlook is the actual talent Bloom had. This wasn't a typical rebuild type team with no talent. The issues were he couldn't pick a path. Made bad trades and didn't spend his free agent money wisely. Not having a fire sale at last years deadline is one of the worst non moves I've ever seen a GM make. Even if he wanted to have a fire sale last year do you honestly think ownership would have let him. I’m not defending Bloom but that’s not a reasonable knock against him. It was a pretty size able rebuild system ranked dead last, mess of a payroll yes he should have done better and made some mistakes but the job as Passan put it “pretty much impossible”. They would have allowed Bloom to get under the cap IMO. Not getting under the cap was a fireable offense. His firing came a year later bur I thought they should’ve fired him after that 2022 deadline.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 15, 2023 21:21:04 GMT -5
I’m curious what the offers for Verdugo were, other than the Yankee one.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 14, 2023 12:53:01 GMT -5
The Lackey trade to the Cardinals was “buy and sell” too. Didn't they trade Lester to the As a few days after that, too, though? For Cespedes. Also buying and selling.
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