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Post by johnsilver52 on Oct 25, 2019 13:56:24 GMT -5
You're missing the part where they'd move the draft into August and probably just have the college guys do something like an extended Instructs. Also, if you eliminate short season, then everyone in short season goes to a different level. The remaining levels aren't going to stay static - they're going to change. I think Low A is going to get "worse" and the complex leagues are going to get a little better (might they spring to send guys further in the GCL now maybe?). The gap would get filled in. Repeating the complex probably would become more acceptable too, I bet. Could also have rookie leagues go full season. Tie it into an instructional league with players half the year on a rookie roster and half the year playing intersquad games with close by teams which of course don't count like they used to do in the winter and during ST. It is a way to attempt keeping more players, if they will pay them. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Oct 22, 2019 8:05:50 GMT -5
Same thing I have said for a long time. MiLB players need to make more money also and doubt MLB Franchise owner's are going to go about doing it out of their own free will, but choose to see it as some kind of bargaining issue. Maybe not with outright increases in pay, but with tie ins to draft changes in general you mentioned and I left out.
Many moving pieces in play and believe were it up to organizations as it used to be setup.. That is before so many penny pinching teams came about, that this could be worked out and half season possibly turned into full season? Just a guess there of course.
The negative in what is being talked of is these "complex" based leagues which seem to have passed ok. I go to GCL Tiger games sometimes and might be the only *1* there, or 1 of less than 5 at the minor league complex. The entire FSL high A league is a complex league. Imagine most every league out draws them in the half season league.
Went off topic last paragraph Chris. Hope explained however.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Oct 21, 2019 14:20:51 GMT -5
Come on Chris. Be real about the entire pay issue that has surrounded minor league players as long as there has been minor leagues and a MLBPA with teeth.
The union could have gone to bat for them had they chose to, those (some) were future dues paying members. Throwing this issue entirely on 1 side is wrong and am pretty sure you realize it, even if won't admit it publicly.
Using only current proposals and ignoring what could have happened since Marvin Miller was in charge 45+ years ago is not going to cut it.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Oct 21, 2019 10:46:12 GMT -5
Financially, a lot of the teams aren't viable. There's quite a few teams in locations with tiny populations with terrible attendance numbers and facilities that are not conducive to properly developing talent. The argument about towns losing teams and therefore kids not growing up going to these games is flawed considering the numbers suggest they aren't attending much to start with. Keith Law highlighted a few teams (i think mostly in the Appalachian league) where average attendance was 1,100 or below which is sad. I have felt for a while that there were too many minor league teams and too many guys with minimal talent that dilutes the product and makes going to the games less interesting than it could be. Apologies for 2 posts back to back. I'm guessing FSL teams (many) are at/below the 1100 average. I've been to many Lakeland Tigers games where attendance is below that during the week. Free nights, weekends over of course and just bringing this up.. Olden days when Winter Haven had the Red Sox FSL team, never got as high as 200, unless it was free. Tampa draws good (yankees) few times have been there for FSL. They even manage 25 or so for the freebie GCL games. LOL |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Oct 21, 2019 10:33:12 GMT -5
It makes perfect sense and is exactly what I thought would happen with all the pressure to raise minor Leaguers pay. Real world, for some to get more, others get less. Draft goes to 20-25 rounds, 25% of minor league teams gone. They create an independent league where they'll now get less and it will be that much harder to make the bigs. The so-so players that got no bonus money. The ones that everyone felt sorry for and that they needed more so they could eat well and not work second jobs are mostly gone in this proposal. The guys that got a $100,000 plus bonus money now get more. No different than $15. minimum wage. Only so much cash is going to be spent and workers in the end are going to pay the price thru job losses. Ball players in this case of course need and deserved more money, but sure would have liked to seen this issue dealt with decades ago in ANY CBA by the MLBPA, now it's the owner's themselves apparently about to unilaterally enforce some kind of cut, with or without the consent of the union and to the angst of many half season locations from what read yesterday. I've seen nothing in this topic but blame thrown at ownership.. Where was the union fighting for these people the last 40+ years? Were those frivolous late additions always more important than any thoughts for MiLB people? |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Oct 8, 2019 8:47:06 GMT -5
Agree on Chatham. have been bullish on him since drafted. Lowish BB rate of course means he's going to have to hit, but the glove should play at the MLB level. He was one of the guys hated missing play at Ft Myers, wrist was injured after being drafted week we were there, tho he was a really approachable player to chat with.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Oct 4, 2019 11:33:40 GMT -5
All this talk of moving Price and paying the majority of his deal, then including a decent prospect to boot just makes no sense in an attempt to get under the salary cap. price doesn't fit the bill of any previous salary dump type player i can remember. He's still going to provide typical #3 type starter numbers (at the worst) if he's healthy and nothing points to him being anything otherwise headed into 2020.
Questions over the elbows of both Sale and Eovaldi this coming spring, Porcello leaving and Rodriquez being the only returning starter who put up numbers I'm not sure he can reproduce. Who else does they system have to step in? Not Brian johnson, not Hector Velazquez either and it seems Mr Wright may never make it back all the way.
I really doubt the Sox FO is troubling themselves with the fantasy of moving Price. why are some here?
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Post by johnsilver52 on Oct 2, 2019 20:22:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up on one of John's articles PhilsBosox. Enjoy them all year long, his indepth reporting on those Sally league games. Without him? We'd be much more in the blind, miLB tv or not. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Oct 2, 2019 17:22:53 GMT -5
Wasn't Zambrano kind of chunky, or better put.. On the larger size? |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 27, 2019 4:57:59 GMT -5
To Fenway's post above that I should have copied... Oh heck I'm not thinking that strikeouts will recede to the 1980s level. Chicks dig the long ball and long balls mean more player money. Pitchers are bigger, stronger, faster. Some combination of factors will result in huge strikeout numbers. We are encroaching on an all or nothing game tho...a bit like little league. I don't know that baseball lied about the ball tho. I think that it was at a loss as well and circled the wagons when attacks came. Believe always a large group of owners that hang together when trouble strikes, why MLBPA strikes usually do not help much now (threats) in baseball. They hung tough during the so called "collusion" era, until got caught. Pretty sure rich millionaires know when it's best to put money 1st and any squabbles they might have 2nd. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 14, 2019 17:41:44 GMT -5
Either get rid of draft pick compensation, or unbundle pick position from pool money. Or both. Preferably both. Going a step further... if you're going to have a pool, you don't need a draft, right? Like, if everyone has a limited amount to spent, the whole "the Yankees will sign everyone" fear really isn't there. It's kind of funny really. The Yankees never really spent the bucks on the Rule 4 draft in the 1st place. Georgie and all the millions he threw around was a tight wad come draft time for the most part and nothing changed up until CBA time. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 12, 2019 15:45:09 GMT -5
Something I have witnessed as well as several of you that have spent a decent period of time at any team's ST facility during ST and seen, is that all of a team's MiLb teams rotate among other teams that are located within a certain distance. If cost cutting alone is the driving force, then locating ALL minor league teams to MiLB facilities, since they contain (in most cases) 2-4 minor league fields and a ST stadium.
Should be enough to locate 30 teams worth to all areas and have MLB quality support located there as well.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 11, 2019 11:48:04 GMT -5
May not be the most popular choice, but I'd like to see Raquel Ferreira as the GM groomed to be, as in GM in waiting. Not necessarily the upcoming GM hire, but made aware that she's given more power under the next hire and the next GM is let it be known also.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 10, 2019 9:35:09 GMT -5
I'm curious as to where Groome's FB is at, even this early back from TJ. Saw 1 of his games back in 2016 and was 91-93 as remember.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 9, 2019 18:04:40 GMT -5
I am happy with either Eddie Romero or Don Orsillo being the GM. There are probably a half-dozen others I'd be content with. Beane is among them. What are Orsillo's qualifications tho? Re hire himself for TV play by play, then immediately step down as GM would suit me. One of the worst choices the team ever made for TV was 1) Having Bob Montgomery ever doing TV and 2) letting Orsillo go. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 28, 2019 1:55:17 GMT -5
Gotta bean that guy next at-bat. Old school. That's some old school crap that deserves to stay in the past. It's not like hitting a pitcher in his pitching arm with a line drive is a repeatable skill. Bruce "Buster" Kison hitting Albert bell for diving over the plate, then Bell charging the mound and a dustup following. Tippy Martinez, hitting George Scott, then Boomer chasing Martinez into the O's dugout afterwards when Scott crowded the plate. Jeter, diving over the plate every AB he ever had.. I've always said home plate belongs to the pitcher. Now batter's go out and dive over with immunity and it's wrong. The inside hard FB has become a thing of the past. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 27, 2019 10:30:35 GMT -5
Danny Uggla. Chavis has more range to his left and Uggs had a beast of a lower half body. Still.. Chavis has reminded me of Uggs since 1st met him after he was drafted and saw him at a GCL playoff game at Tampa early on.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 27, 2019 2:40:19 GMT -5
Believe Holt can get a bit too much via FA than boston should pay him with several other utility guys available already in Hernandez, Lin who could work in time with Chavis at 2b for a bit.
Holt can probably get 5-6m AAV at the least over 2.. maybe 3y and with Boston looking to just maybe get under the lowest cap next season, that 5-6m is a bit much.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 23, 2019 16:12:43 GMT -5
Another strong outing from aaron Perry. only got to ft myers once this summer for handful of games with my wife and didn't get to see Perry in any of the games. Curious is possibly Sarasoxer saw any of his games perhaps and could let us know how he looked from a eyes on look-see?
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 23, 2019 3:06:21 GMT -5
Workman had a 3.22 ERA between 2017 and 2018 in 81 innings. So it probably took awhile to figure out what patterns were meaningful, and he also wasn't a guy who necessarily needed fixing. There was no "uhhh, this guy has given up 12 homers in 51 innings and they are all on changeups let's cool it with the changeups." It's a more long-term adjustments based on what the numbers were saying about a pitcher who was succeeding. The Red Sox pitching coaches identified a pretty good pitcher and made him better, and you want to use that as evidence that they should be fired? Nah. I'll admit Workman is a guy I kinda missed. He'd outpitched his peripherals for awhile, and so many times when a pitcher with that profile makes an adjustment, either his luck runs out or his peripherals imrprove but it cannibalizes any real FIP-beating tendencies. Workman has pitched better and also continued to outpitch his peripherals to the point where we have to start at least considering it's an ability. Think it's because he's gone more towards his curve and less towards his both 2 and 4 seam FB's. The curve of his was always good, even early on. Worrisome he's already had the 1 TJ and going more heavily with the curve now. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 20, 2019 17:45:11 GMT -5
You jumped the shark with this one man. Trolling is an art, and this is just sloppy Nothing about this is trolling. Sale is downplaying the extent of his injury, which he's done a million times in the past. Heck, we didn't know about the toe injury until 3 months afterwards because he doesn't like the media knowing about his personal stuff. The dude isn't even on social media, that's how much information he likes to put out there. This could still definitely be a stretched ligament and worry time. The Sox shouldn't bank on Chris Sale in 2020, despite his rosy comments today. Even the Boston Red Sox know this. Maybe not on social media, but he does tell his family certain information, which they in turn have let others know about and seen in the future to have come true. Maybe they see this (if check this board) will stop this practice. Last year a relative of mine told me a certain fairly important item regarding Sale heard from a relative of Chris at a group meeting locally here (he has several family members here). Maybe keeping facts closer to the extreme inner circle would work best if secrecy is what he's after. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 17, 2019 22:11:13 GMT -5
This elbow issue and throwing in the 80's stuff earlier this season in April i see posted above? never saw any grief regarding Sale's health when he was barely cracking 90mph, even some upper 80's a certain chilly April of 2018 when he dominated the Chisox at fenway.
Where was all those people then? For the record, I was and am still very much in favor of the extension.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 16, 2019 16:59:44 GMT -5
Doesn't the rain in Florida usually pass by late afternoon? Wouldn't a chunk of this just be fixed by playing evening games? I've never done Florida in the summer, so I may be totally off on that one. Afternoon/early evening is generally the heaviest shower time for florida during the rainy season. Mornings will happen some, same with later on in the evenings, but afternoon/early evenings is "usually" the worst. That said? Here in Lakeland and this area.. I'd say it's been with out looking at total rainfall totals, one of the heavier overall totals in several years rain wise. There are certain years where it's not quite as heavy, or thunderstorm season may start early/end early, start late and end late, but heavier rain times generally hold true regardless. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 12, 2019 17:00:17 GMT -5
With McGrath, there's nothing to lose except baseball games, but in general they don't just call up guys because they've given up trying to win but calling up players they don't think are good. It'd be fun if they called him up, for sure, but if they don't think he's good, running him out there to put up like a 12.00 ERA and face the comments-section meatheads might not be the best idea. Don't need the Tony Mazz's of the world being all "look, another example of how the Red Sox don't develop pitching" at the kid. The downside to calling up Dalbec and/or Chatham is that they aren't ready and get overmatched and develop bad habits based on that. Or a specific flaw gets exposed that hurts their value as a potential trade chip. Less worried about that with Dalbec, though letting him put up inflated numbers with the juiced ball against Triple-A pitchers while working through any potential adjustments has some value as well. In September I might bring Dalbec up since the alternative will be just ending his season. Chatham isn't MLB ready and "see how their skills play at the major league level" for a player who is talented but whose development isn't there yet is self-defeating. Can see some of the points made, then bringing up a guy and creating a roster spot for owings rather than calling up a solid player in either hernadez/Lin made no sense who were already on the 40 man and Lin is capable of playing 1 OF position. The constant up and down of retreads Weber/Josh Smith and Poyner, all on the 40 man has been a train wreck trifecta all season. None fit into any long term plans. Why not give more growing pains innings towards Shawaryn and Lakins if just throwing guys out there is what they are going to do on occasion. Last season many moves made sense, this year so many have been questionable organizational wide. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 12, 2019 0:24:02 GMT -5
There was talk of that race but it never happened. Jimenez is measurably faster than Duran, at least home to first in-game. Doesn't mean I wouldn't watch it though! Agreed. Seems like remember the organization was against one ever happening. bucholz was always made of glass moreso than was Ells and what good would have come out of it? |
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