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Post by bryce on Nov 26, 2014 10:44:14 GMT -5
Oh my god! There's only two LH bats in our starting lineup. But it seems we've done in offense. Conventionally,after we add two starting pitcher,one or two bullpen help and backup catcher,Ben will go to have his own Christmas vacation and the roster will be set at that time. All of our three starting OF are RH. Is that O.K. for us to build a lineup like that?
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Post by bryce on Oct 30, 2014 14:33:19 GMT -5
One quick thing I'd like to add on this - I think Mookie is going to struggle some next season - just like Bogaerts did this season. That's the way it is, was, and will be with young players and decades of baseball history bear that out. Sure there are a few truly elite players that come right up and light the world on fire offensively, but it's the exception not the rule. Countless players that have had great minor league track records, phenomenal projections, and then great careers have struggled pretty mightily over their first few SEASONS in the big leagues, not just over the course of a couple of months. This is especially true for the majority of very young players (those that don't play advanced college baseball), and should be even more taken into account as we re-adjust our expectations as performance enhancing drugs are removed from the game. Even when you look at some of the game's elite "young" players, they came up as older players (than Betts and Bogaerts did) and more importantly with more time to season in the minors or played at a high level college program. In my opinion the Front Office projected struggles from even our best prospects, but felt that was a good year to allow them to begin that process of countless struggles and adjustments (rinse and repeat) that can only be necessitated by facing talent and preparation that you find from major league players, not those in the minors. Personally, that is a move I agree with and am glad they chose. I thought it as same as you!!!!!
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Post by bryce on Oct 6, 2014 12:33:53 GMT -5
Are Mike Minor and Brett Anderson our targets?
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Post by bryce on Oct 5, 2014 12:08:45 GMT -5
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Post by bryce on Oct 4, 2014 11:00:55 GMT -5
If Hamels is pitching for us, Mookie will lead the bottom of the first off with a HR. There will be much sadness in The Nation Highly doubt Mookie would be in a deal for Hamels It is undoubtful that Phillies will ask Red Sox about Mookie actively !
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Post by bryce on Sept 27, 2014 10:26:44 GMT -5
My own opinion is that Brentz has been flying under the radar for a while. That's understandable given the nagging injuries he's had. But the power is legitimate and, as you say, these days it's much in demand. While Brentz has always been someone without elite selectivity - think Betts and how he won't give a sniff to a lot of borderline pitches - his bat is for real. The OBP will never be at the top of the list, but he hits the ball hard and I believe he has better pitch recognition than Middlebrooks - that's just from AAA videos and the very small ML sample size this year. He still waves at stuff he shouldn't but a lot of that is self-inflicted because he's so aggressive. He seems to be learning to back off. Though his batting average in AAA did drop this year, he actually finished with an OBP of over .800. That said, he's yet to get any walks in his stint with the Sox. Pitchers will start probing him with stuff off the plate at some point. Let's see how he responds. He's paid a lot of dues in the minors, and he probably deserves a chance to play somewhere, and while he's not the fastest guy on the field he could excel in left or be serviceable in right field, because the arm strength really plays. It's time for him to get a shot. Well I agree with this entirely. I have been a long time Brentz fan. To me he has a beautiful power swing. He is also willing to go to all fields. Hell if he could hit .250 with 25 hrs. that would be a great asset in this day. People have downed his defense but he looks comfortable in the outfield too. Who knows where this guy would be had he not had so many injuries. I know that rbis are not a popular subject, but he has been a consistent run-producer in the minors. You are right about having better pitch recognition than WMB, altho that in itself would not say much. WMB seems to guess. This guy has some idea and yes I think he has improved in that dept too. based upon what we have seen here and some spring training games. I want him to be our next RF!
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Post by bryce on Sept 27, 2014 10:09:04 GMT -5
One of my friends brought up the idea, what about Bryce Harper? Young, Left-Handed power bat in the outfield. He's been hurt, had some controversy with management, and underachieved to a degree. Mookie Betts and another piece or two? would allow them to move Rendon to Third full time, Betts to Second, Either Zimmerman to Left or 1st - Allows them to bring up either Michael Taylor, Stephen Souza, or Matthew Skole depending if they decide to pick up LaRoche or Spans options. Michael Brantley, has had a great year I don't see him traded though. Jay Bruce, Jason Heyward, Christian Yelich are some other names. It is a good thing to have a dream!
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Post by bryce on Sept 24, 2014 2:35:58 GMT -5
There is no any news about we have a private workout with Yasmani Tomas after his showcase in Dominican Repulic. Does this mean we give up pursuing him?
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Post by bryce on Sept 24, 2014 2:33:59 GMT -5
Oh wow what a can of Jay Bruces I opened. I don't have Insider access so I can't see whether or not Bowden explicitly says anything about the Red Sox in the article, I just assumed he would support the Red Sox going after him based on his suggestion that Cashman do the same (since all of our moves should obviously be geared towards foiling the Yankees). just to squash this discussion, he never mentions the Red Sox as candidates to get Bruce. He simply says that Bruce had a garbage year and that some team could be lucky if the buy low and he bounces back. I understand it! Thank you! I just want to know the truth!Thanks!
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Post by bryce on Sept 24, 2014 2:33:00 GMT -5
Oh wow what a can of Jay Bruces I opened. I don't have Insider access so I can't see whether or not Bowden explicitly says anything about the Red Sox in the article, I just assumed he would support the Red Sox going after him based on his suggestion that Cashman do the same (since all of our moves should obviously be geared towards foiling the Yankees). Thank you for your answer! I will stop it!
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Post by bryce on Sept 24, 2014 2:30:47 GMT -5
I think the Reds are going to want one significant prospect to headline the trade even if you take on Phillips as Cueto is awfully good. That means you are giving up one of the good pitchers (Barnes, Owens, Rodriguez). You could also expand the deal to give them Nava and Victorino for Bruce in exchange for making the package a little lighter. You can say that again!!!!!
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Post by bryce on Sept 24, 2014 2:20:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I considered including one of those three in there. If Phillips seems open to moving to third, I'd probably be willing to do Phillips and Cueto for Craig, Owens, and Coyle. The whole idea of trading Cueto in the first place is so you can get some young pitching in the door and get in front of the payroll disaster looming when Bailey's and Votto's numbers go way up. Craig doesn't help you do either thing and neither does Coyle really. I would think they would be looking at one of the second tier pitchers (Johnson, Workman, Ranaudo, Webster, DelaRosa) as the second player in and then a raw promising young player who is far away like Guerra or Doubon as the third player. You could also sweeten the deal by giving them Victorino and Nava in exchange for Jay Bruce. It could be something like Owens, Ranaudo, Doubon, Victorino and Nava for Cueto, Phillips, and Bruce.....you clear a 40 man spot too. This blockbuster sounds attractive to me!!!!!
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Post by bryce on Sept 23, 2014 10:33:32 GMT -5
No one answer me about what Jim Bowden said,so I won't stop posting it until someone don't ignore my questions!!!!! That's because, like you, most of us do not have ESPN Insider access. If someone with a subscription makes their way into this thread, maybe they'll see your string of posts and help you out. Seriously, do not ask again. This is your final warning. Thank you for your reply!!! I will take note of it!
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Post by bryce on Sept 23, 2014 1:59:11 GMT -5
I want to know the whole part of Jay Bruce in Jim Bowden's article. I also want to know his five examples consist of Jason Kipnis,Jay Bruce and who the rest of others are? You've posted this three times now. Please do not post it again. No one answer me about what Jim Bowden said,so I won't stop posting it until someone don't ignore my questions!!!!!
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Post by bryce on Sept 23, 2014 1:50:54 GMT -5
I hadn't thought about Phillips to 3B-- that's actually a really interesting idea. He's reported to have an above-average arm, so that transition to 3B might work (though the elephant in the room is whether he want to move positions after playing 2B in the majors for a decade+). The contract is not even that bad if he rebounds to become even an average regular (15:$12M, 16:$13M, 17:$14M), though Phillips does turn 34 next year and age-related collapse is a concern. Something like Phillips and Cueto for, say, Craig (to partially offset Phillips' salary and give the Reds a left fielder), Workman (or Ranaudo? Webster?), and Coyle? That seems a little light. Craig, Johnson, and Coyle? If I'm Cincy, I'd be asking for either Owens or Rodriguez in the deal. But if there was a Craig, Johnson, and Coyle for Cueto and Phillips deal, I'd be all over it if I were the Red Sox. It would be the biggest steal from Cincy since the Sox got Nick Esasky and Rob Murphy for Todd Benzinger and Jeff Sellers after the 1988 season. Can't see Cincy not having a better offer on the table for Cueto. If I were the Reds I'd be looking for two starters, probably Barnes and Rodriguez (or Owens) and a middle infielder like Coyle or Marrero. If they wanted a corner OF, then I would think they'd prefer Nava and his salary to Craig. If I were the Cincy,I would ask Mookie Betts,too.
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Post by bryce on Sept 21, 2014 7:42:42 GMT -5
Bowden indicated Bruce was a bounce back candidate for next year, but suggested in the same article Craig may bounce back as well Can you give me the whole one. Because I am not an insider of ESPN,I can only see the part of Jason Kipnis. Please help me. I will say thank you to you very much!
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Post by bryce on Sept 21, 2014 4:52:44 GMT -5
Can you give me the sources what Jim Boweden said,because I can't see this. This is really a "News" for me ! I haven't heard that before. Almost rumors are that Yankees is eager to get him,I didn't heard the Sox wants him.
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Post by bryce on Sept 19, 2014 12:02:25 GMT -5
I'd like to see the following: C - Vazquez 1B - Napoli 2B - Pedroia SS - Bogaerts 3B - Betts LF - Cespedes CF - Castillo RF - Victorino DH - Ortiz SP - Lester SP - Shields SP - Buchholz SP - Kelly SP - Barnes CL - Uehara BP - Miller BP - Tazawa BP - Ranaudo BP - Layne BP - Webster BP - De la Rossa BE - Holt BE - Bradley, Jr BE - Ross BE - Middlebrooks BE - Craig Basically, I think they need to develop some of the young talent. I think that many of the young pitchers would be better suited out of the bullpen for now. Betts is a quick twitch athlete and I think he has enough of an arm to play 3rd. Middlebrooks and Craig don't have enough value at this point to try to trade them. Holt and Betts can play multiple positions and I think that Bradley should start 2-3 times/week to rest the OF and then be used late in games for his defense. If Koji doesn't look like his old self, I would move him out of the closer role (perhaps slot Barnes in there) and bring up Owens after a few weeks. Righties are going to eat up this lineup. We need another lefty bat or two. You can say that again!!!!!
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Post by bryce on Sept 17, 2014 14:34:47 GMT -5
By the way, I'm not convinced that Mookie isn't a top-3-type prospect. He came in second (behind Bryant) on Keith Law's list, and if he were eligible for BA/BP/etc.'s lists (which I don't think he is), I'm confident he'd be in the top 5 and maybe the top 3. Also, the idea that player performance is uncertain cuts both ways. We don't know if Betts is going to be a great player next year, but we don't know that Bruce will be, either. The risk is maybe somewhat higher with a prospect like Betts, but Bruce is also coming off a below-replacement-level year, and he's definitely not some sure thing either. He very well may be. He was certainly deserving of a top ~10 spot this summer. My concern with him becoming a consistently top player at the MLB level is that, if he's not a center fielder, he really has to hit well and grow into a plus defender. I'm certain that he will become a good outfielder, but if he hits "just" .280-.300 with a ~125 wRC+, while that's pretty valuable, he'd be more of a very good player than an elite one. Xander, on the other hand, could grow into a 120-140 wRC+ guy at SS which would make him rather elite (I won't bother to go into my belief that Mookie could easily be as good of a defensive shortstop as Xander). Just wait and see! If our another top prospect still fails again,I think you will regret that we don't use him to bring back an ace pitcher which is our first step to improve now!
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Post by bryce on Sept 17, 2014 14:31:31 GMT -5
By the way, I'm not convinced that Mookie isn't a top-3-type prospect. He came in second (behind Bryant) on Keith Law's list, and if he were eligible for BA/BP/etc.'s lists (which I don't think he is), I'm confident he'd be in the top 5 and maybe the top 3. Also, the idea that player performance is uncertain cuts both ways. We don't know if Betts is going to be a great player next year, but we don't know that Bruce will be, either. The risk is maybe somewhat higher with a prospect like Betts, but Bruce is also coming off a below-replacement-level year, and he's definitely not some sure thing either. "There are so many OFs or even surplus for us to contention next year"This scene now is like the offseason last year what everybody thought. Still,everything could happen! It can't be said that our outfield's performance is bound to be good next season,maybe it will drop again! Maybe the injury will catch either Cespedes,Betts or other OF and our outfielder can't work again! Who knows? So I think we should take conservative idea about that.
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Post by bryce on Sept 17, 2014 14:20:43 GMT -5
Xander Bogaerts is a well-regarded super prospects. Manny scouts saw him as an immediate-ready player to shine in MLB,but this year,what he did told us that even a "Big one" prospect still need time to grow up,not to mention Betts. Betts is seen as a good prospect but not a "Big one". So the"Big one" even has trouble this year,why do you still have so much confidence on him to become a star next year? Anything could happen in this world,so don't say that too early.(in the beginning of this year,it seems that the Sox has a lot of outfielders to use,but what the result it brought to us?) I saw manny people praise Ryan Kalish very much here four years ago,said that he will be our RF in the future. And then, a variety of injury destroy his career. See! What does he look like now? Maybe Betts will get injuried next year,and he won't bounce back like Ryan Kalish,I think that will be a big loss for us! How do you think Betts is bound to be a better player than Bruce? He hasn't really prove himself because of his limited appearance. Can he keep that fantastic stats in full season? Maybe sure and maybe not. I think he is at least not an untouchable asset such as XB,so I support the idea to deal him for an ace pitcher. Yes, Xander was a top 3 prospect last year -- he was basically a giga prospect. Just because Mookie isn't a top 3 type doesn't mean he isn't big. He is. He would have ranked in the top 25 of mid-season top prospects lists had he not exhausted his eligibility by playing in MLB. Sure, he wasn't on the radar the minute he came into the Sox organization, but he sure morphed into a fantastic prospect. Also, just because Xander was regarded at a higher level doesn't mean Mookie has an equal or greater chance to struggle. I already mentioned why I think Mookie's profile as a hitter will prevent him from having the kind of extended trouble that Xander went through for those brutal three months mid-season. Not sure what else I can say. How do I know that Mookie is more valuable than Bruce right now? He already has a far better hit tool, he certainly has a better running tool, and his fielding very well could be superior as he continues to acclimate to the outfield and Bruce loses range. And can we stop acting like Bruce is some standout weapon in right field? He's had two very good defensive seasons, and a few mediocre ones, including this year which has been pretty poor. He's no Reddick, Heyward, or Victorino out there. What you said about Betts just makes me think of Ryan Kalish. Wish him not to be like Kalish's final! I think that midseason's ranking is not very accurate,Domonic Brown was selected No.1 prospect of MLB,is his performance equal to what scout report told us? In the preseason ranking, Betts is just No.75. Most of prospects in front of him graduated from Milb,so he had the chance to climb up to top 25. I still projects him as a "good player" but a "excellant"one!
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Post by bryce on Sept 17, 2014 13:30:04 GMT -5
Why do you have so much confidence on Betts? XB did well last year and played a key one to help Red Sox won the World Series! Does he do that again before August this year? So don't to say Betts will be great one next year too early. Ryan Kalish had a bright future before in the Sox's uniform and I saw a lot of fans praised him very much at that time. We saw him as our next long-term RF then. And then is there anything big he has given to us? In August, Bogaerts hit .123/.195/.164. In April and May, he hit .304/.397/.438 and was the best hitter on the team. So the answer is yes. Betts is also a different type of hitter than Bogaerts, as his swing is less prone to whiffs and he's also shown a better ability to recognize tough breaking pitches. Basically, and this obviously isn't set in stone, but Betts just seems like the type who doesn't need as long of a period to adjust to pitching at the MLB level. Also, FWIW, Betts (160 PA) has accumulated 2.3 more fWAR than Jay Bruce (511 PA) this season. Xander Bogaerts is a well-regarded super prospects. Manny scouts saw him as an immediate-ready player to shine in MLB,but this year,what he did told us that even a "Big one" prospect still need time to grow up,not to mention Betts. Betts is seen as a good prospect but not a "Big one". So the"Big one" even has trouble this year,why do you still have so much confidence on him to become a star next year? Anything could happen in this world,so don't say that too early.(in the beginning of this year,it seems that the Sox has a lot of outfielders to use,but what the result it brought to us?) I saw manny people praise Ryan Kalish very much here four years ago,said that he will be our RF in the future. And then, a variety of injury destroy his career. See! What does he look like now? Maybe Betts will get injuried next year,and he won't bounce back like Ryan Kalish,I think that will be a big loss for us! How do you think Betts is bound to be a better player than Bruce? He hasn't really prove himself because of his limited appearance. Can he keep that fantastic stats in full season? Maybe sure and maybe not. I think he is at least not an untouchable asset such as XB,so I support the idea to deal him for an ace pitcher.
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Post by bryce on Sept 16, 2014 13:21:28 GMT -5
There are many young powerful rightfielders who have not only homerun power but also cannon arm to throw the runner out on the home plate in the league now! It shocked me that the Sox doesn't have one!!!!! Marlins has Giancarlo Stanton and Marcell Ozuna. Nationals has Bryce Harper,Michael Taylor and Steven Souza Jr. Tigers has Steven Moya. Twins has Oswaldo Arcia. Dodgers has Joc Pederson and Yasiel Puig. Astros has George Springer. Cubs has Jorge Soler. Rays has Wil Myers. White Sox has Avisail Garcia. Angels has Kole Calhoun. Athletics has Josh Reddick. Rangers has Michael Choice. Braves has Jason Heyward and Justin Upton. Cardinals has Oscar Taveras. Pirates has Gregory Planco and Josh Bell. Reds has Jay Bruce. Padres has Rymer Liriano. Diamondbacks has David Peralta. And Red Sox? If your answer is Mookie Betts,I think you have a good sense of humor! Wow. That's about all I can say. Are you honestly telling me nobody on the Red Sox has a great arm to throw runners out at the plate (OF can also throw runners out at 2b and 3b, too and even at 1b on the rarest of occasions)? Have you ever heard of Yoenis Cespedes or seen his throws? If you did you'd realize he has a fantastic arm. Then ask yourself why the Sox haven't exactly rushed to throw him into RF at Fenway. The answer is because the extra baserunners he holds up doesn't measure to the value of defensive ability to turn the batted ball into outs, especially ones in the spacious RF of Fenway. You need to have CF capabilities to play RF at Fenway which is something Cespedes doesn't have despite his rocket arm. Betts would make a lot of catches that Cespedes would turn into doubles and eventual runs for the opposition. Also keep in mind that Victorino has a good arm as well and would normally be the best choice for RF if he were completely healthy. As far as your other "measurements" of Betts, all I can do is shake my head and laugh. You have no idea what a multi-faceted offensive asset looks like because you're hung up on certain images that have little basis in reality. Rotisserie fantasy baseball isn't real baseball. If you were the GM of another team you'd get fleeced left and right. jrffam05 said everything else there is to say as good as it can be said. Why do you have so much confidence on Betts? XB did well last year and played a key one to help Red Sox won the World Series! Does he do that again before August this year? So don't to say Betts will be great one next year too early. Ryan Kalish had a bright future before in the Sox's uniform and I saw a lot of fans praised him very much at that time. We saw him as our next long-term RF then. And then is there anything big he has given to us?
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Post by bryce on Sept 15, 2014 23:11:32 GMT -5
There are many young powerful rightfielders who have not only homerun power but also cannon arm to throw the runner out on the home plate in the league now! It shocked me that the Sox doesn't have one!!!!! Marlins has Giancarlo Stanton and Marcell Ozuna. Nationals has Bryce Harper,Michael Taylor and Steven Souza Jr. Tigers has Steven Moya. Twins has Oswaldo Arcia. Dodgers has Joc Pederson and Yasiel Puig. Astros has George Springer. Cubs has Jorge Soler. Rays has Wil Myers. White Sox has Avisail Garcia. Angels has Kole Calhoun. Athletics has Josh Reddick. Rangers has Michael Choice. Braves has Jason Heyward and Justin Upton. Cardinals has Oscar Taveras. Pirates has Gregory Planco and Josh Bell. Reds has Jay Bruce. Padres has Rymer Liriano. Diamondbacks has David Peralta. And Red Sox? If your answer is Mookie Betts,I think you have a good sense of humor! Wow. That's about all I can say. Are you honestly telling me nobody on the Red Sox has a great arm to throw runners out at the plate (OF can also throw runners out at 2b and 3b, too and even at 1b on the rarest of occasions)? Have you ever heard of Yoenis Cespedes or seen his throws? If you did you'd realize he has a fantastic arm. Then ask yourself why the Sox haven't exactly rushed to throw him into RF at Fenway. The answer is because the extra baserunners he holds up doesn't measure to the value of defensive ability to turn the batted ball into outs, especially ones in the spacious RF of Fenway. You need to have CF capabilities to play RF at Fenway which is something Cespedes doesn't have despite his rocket arm. Betts would make a lot of catches that Cespedes would turn into doubles and eventual runs for the opposition. Also keep in mind that Victorino has a good arm as well and would normally be the best choice for RF if he were completely healthy. As far as your other "measurements" of Betts, all I can do is shake my head and laugh. You have no idea what a multi-faceted offensive asset looks like because you're hung up on certain images that have little basis in reality. Rotisserie fantasy baseball isn't real baseball. If you were the GM of another team you'd get fleeced left and right. jrffam05 said everything else there is to say as good as it can be said. I did 't say Red Sox doesn't have great-arm-player. I said" a YOUNG ,powerful rightfielder who has the potential to hit over 20HR and great arm to throw the runner out." So what I want is that the great arm one should be under 27 this year and homerun threat.
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Post by bryce on Sept 15, 2014 23:06:45 GMT -5
As for what makes a player good being his HR count potential and his arm's cannon-ism, as you are arguing, how can you possibly say that Bruce has more HR potential than Cespedes or a more cannony arm. Cespedes won the home run derby two times in a row, and would easily win over Bruce in a most likely to have a cannon arm vote. Now really these metrics are not very conclusive of how much value a player adds to his team, but I am calling them out because you are not being consistent in your arguments. For the reasons you like Bruce you should like Cespedes much more. As for Altuve, Betts slashed a very similar line to him in his limited MLB time this year. Altuve hasn't been all that "high ceiling" in his 3 season prior to this year. I wouldn't trade Betts for Altuve straight up right now, based on their contract status and Betts versatility (and also because of Pede). There is a reason nobody in baseball makes decisions based on players batting averages and home run counts, not even the Phillies anymore. The board has tried to explain that to you multiple times but it still seems we failed. I would ask that you do some independent research as to why no one uses those stats any more, and what makes other stats more telling of a players value. Adding to that, your suggestions have basically had a 100% rejection on this board. I'm not trying to pick on you, but it is time for you to reevaluate what you are saying. Try a different route. Explain why 20+ HR's is a more valuable metric than slugging %, wRC+, or Woba (spoiler: it is not) I will say that again!young guy,Young guy,Young Guy,YOUNG GUY!!!!! It is undoubtful that both Victorino and Cespedes have cannon arm,but they are old. Victorino will be 35 while Cespedes will turn 30 next year. Maybe you say Cespedes is in his peak of age,but someone in their peak of age means there is a great deal of possibility their performance will from high to drop and they may not have the potiential for their future to do something career high. A young player has potential to grow up even if he has poor performance these years. Also,Cespedes is a terrific throwing guy but not a good catching guy. Like Baustisa,Gerardo Parra,Ichiro,JBJ and other elite cannon arm user can make catch-and-throw into double playe to avoid a sacrifice fly. But Cespedes doesn't do that. He usally throws well after letting the ball down the field in front of him. This may be make the second scorer out ,but in the same time, you have lost 1 runs. Cespedes even can't handle the rightfield in O.co Coliseum which is said to be pitcher-friendly ballpark. So I don't think he will fit well in front of Pesky Pole next year.
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