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Post by 07redsox on Jul 31, 2015 14:36:25 GMT -5
So what? Sandoval and Hanley got injured last night. They're not being traded if that's what you're driving at. I thought sandoval just got dehydrated for being fat and out of shape? That was days ago, not last night. He was hit by a pitch on (I believe) the wrist last night.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 28, 2015 0:16:21 GMT -5
I guess it's possible, but they would have had to work this out with Tulo in advance though. Its being reported that because of the trade Tulo has a no trade clause, so unless it's somewhere he wants to go (or he just really doesn't want to play in Toronto) I'm not sure how it will work out. The other part being if they did trade Tulo they also traded there existing SS leaving a hole to be filled. That as well. However, I would assume that they whole point of this would be to get a lesser player than what they had in Reyes at SS while at the same time improving their pitching, which they really need. Don't think it would be too had to get a semi-respectable SS if a trade for Tulo along with some pitching.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 28, 2015 0:07:58 GMT -5
Baseball Tonight speculating Toronto may spin Tulo for pitching or now trade an Encarnacion or Bautista for pitching. May have wait to see how this one ends. I guess it's possible, but they would have had to work this out with Tulo in advance though. Its being reported that because of the trade Tulo has a no trade clause, so unless it's somewhere he wants to go (or he just really doesn't want to play in Toronto) I'm not sure how it will work out.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 27, 2015 15:59:59 GMT -5
7/27 Red Sox (RHP Joe Kelly 2-6 5.74) vs. White Sox (LHP John Danks 5-8 4.66) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI7/28 Red Sox (LHP Wade Miley 8-8 4.33) vs. White Sox (RHP Jeff Samardzija 7-5 3.91) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI7/29 Red Sox (RHP Rick Porcello 5-10 5.51) vs. White Sox (LHP Jose Quintana 5-9 3.56) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI7/30 Red Sox (RHP Steven Wright 3-4 4.78) vs. White Sox (LHP Chris Sale 9-5 2.85) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEIMLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management At least we won't have to face Sale on Thursday, since the Sox will be trading for him so his start will be skipped
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 26, 2015 11:46:30 GMT -5
Did Harold Reynolds really just say on MLB Network that he thinks the Royals have a really good chance of signing Cueto after this season? Is this guy ever in touch with reality?
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 26, 2015 11:44:51 GMT -5
So you wanted them to trade players so that they didn't have to give up players (picks)? Seem kinda pointless either way. This is pretty much the best case scenario. He goes to a team that is certainly not going to re-sign him and now won't cost a draft pick. I would still rather sign Price in the off season, but Cueto would be great to have as well! Yes. I guess it depends on what the final price for Cueto ends up being, but I don't think it's gonna be outrageous, but I'd rather keep our 2nd round pick and give ourselves a really large bonus pool to go with our top 5 (hopefully) pick. And yes, I never said I didn't want Price. Sure I'll take either him or Cueto. Either one is fine with me. We just need better pitching. I guess we have to wait and see. Yes, I don't think it is going to be outrageous either. However, you also have to remember that what they get back needs to be (at least in the eyes of the Reds) at least as valuable as the compensation pick they would be getting if he stayed with them for the rest of the season. I would assume that what the Royals are giving up would be better than a 2nd round pick then. Either way though now we don't have to worry about the Sox giving up a pick (at least for Cueto) if they decide to go this route. And that second part wasn't really directed at you, just the board in general. Figured its better to put both ideas in one post instead of taking up more space lol. Should have made that more clear.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 26, 2015 11:29:54 GMT -5
Couldn't be happier. I was kind of hoping the Red Sox would trade for Cueto just to make sure we didn't lose a pick in order to sign him. But it worked out amazingly. He gets traded to a small market team who won't spend the $200M it will take to sign him and he no longer has a pick attached to him AND we don't have to give up the prospects that we would have had to give up to get him. Awesome. So you wanted them to trade players so that they didn't have to give up players (picks)? Seem kinda pointless either way. This is pretty much the best case scenario. He goes to a team that is certainly not going to re-sign him and now won't cost a draft pick. I would still rather sign Price in the off season, but Cueto would be great to have as well!
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 25, 2015 14:16:40 GMT -5
Mookie Betts, CF Brock Holt, 2B Xander Bogaerts, SS David Ortiz, DH Hanley Ramirez, LF Pablo Sandoval, 3B Mike Napoli, 1B Alejandro De Aza, RF Blake Swihart, C Steven Wright, RHP no PedroiaPedroia's on the DL.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 22, 2015 20:59:50 GMT -5
And even if it continues this way it won't be close to as bad - results wise, which is what you are basing things on - as any of the trades I mentioned, or probably a dozen others. If you want just a few more examples: Jamie Moyer, Jim Lonborg, Sparky Lyle. i don't want your examples....actually never asked for them. You win the argument of opinions. Congratulations. You posted on a message board (a place where, you know, people discuss things that people say and comment on what other members talk about). Now people have to wait to reply until the original poster asks them too? That kinda defeats the purpose...
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 20, 2015 15:08:37 GMT -5
Until Moncado started to hit, Devers was regarded by many analysts as the position player in the Sox minor league system most likely to become a superstar, a batting champion. And both KLaw and soxprospects scouts now say his defense is good and he can stay at 3B - basically eliminating the one question that remained from last season. No way I would trade him for a pitcher, any pitcher, but especially either an older veteran or an unproven youngster who hasn't had his TJ yet.I would consider trading him in a deal for a superstar position player nearing or in his prime years - but not older. I used to be in favor of a Hamels trade, but not anymore. If Cueto's arm hasn't fallen off by fall, I'd be in favor of signing him - but not trading for him now. That's just a waste. So you wouldn't trade an unproven youngster (because no matter what anyone says about Devers' potential, that's all he is at the moment as well) for an unproven youngster? I understand that pitchers probably carry more risk of injury, but Urias is the type of player that every team would love to have. If in some imaginary fantasy baseball world I could trade Devers straight up for Urias I don't even think I would hesitate in making that deal.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 20, 2015 15:02:57 GMT -5
Bold move offering the 3rd best 3rd base prospect to a team having the #1 prospect in the game at that position. You should learn to read better. Try reading with your glasses on. I JUST SAID THAT WONT HAPPEN!!!! Maybe you should take your own advice. You keep saying they need to do something that you also say is impossible. Urias is not being traded, and neither is any other pitcher that has that kind of potential no matter what team they are on. How do you expect them to do something that isn't going to happen?
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 20, 2015 1:06:01 GMT -5
Right. But it also gives no credence to what you inferred with your other comment ("… we seem to play better as a team when he is out of the lineup …") If you're not suggesting a correlation, why mention it? If you are suggesting a correlation, what is it? By my calculation the sox are 29 and 42 in games Pedroia plays and 13 and 7 in games that Pedroia does not play. While none of it is Pedroia's fault per se, in my mind it is evidence the sox seem to play better without him or to be more accurate, the sox have a better winning percentage without him in the lineup. In your mind it may be evidence, but in everyone else's mind it means literally nothing. If you actually believe that Pedroia playing makes the team worse just because they have a certain record with him in the lineup, then I have a bridge to sell you....
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 19, 2015 16:21:31 GMT -5
I think we could get a decent pitching prospect from a contender in need of a second baseman for holt. We could probably get a better pitching prospect from a contender in need a second baseman if bc could get Pedroia to waive his no trade clause. I know a lot of guys here are die hard Pedroia fans, but we seem to play better as a team when he is out of the lineup. "We seem to play better as a team when he is out of the lineup"...is one of the stupidest and most ridiculous statements I've read. But then again, not surprising coming from Mr. Preseason BA with RISP. And, I believe, the second time he has said the same exact thing. If it wasn't him then it was someone else, but I know I read literally the same exact thing almost word for word right after Pedroia went on the DL...
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 12, 2015 16:22:45 GMT -5
Clearly trying to get more than two innings out of Ogando is an open admission that the bullpen sucks. I hope that message now is clear to the front office. The problem is you shouldn't be trying to do that. It the last game before the ASB, which means four days off. There is no reason for Farrell not to put Koji in for the top of the 9th, especially when he had been warming up for a while now. The game was also what many would consider a huge game for the team. Maybe not a must win, but close enough.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 12, 2015 15:58:53 GMT -5
Wow, who could see that one coming? Everyone but Farrell.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 12, 2015 13:19:41 GMT -5
This is the second time in the series that the YES announcers talk about the "outfield mix" the Sox have this season and how they need to figure out who plays. And each time they have talked about Moncada being one of those outfielders...
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 11, 2015 20:09:22 GMT -5
How is the runner not out there???
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 10, 2015 20:52:48 GMT -5
Did anyone actually expect anything different with Breslow pitching? I dunno... John Farrell? Ben Cherington? Carl Willis? Larry Luchinno? There must be SOMEONE who thinks Breslow can get outs. I don't even think they do. I'm starting to believe that Breslow is Farrell's or Cherington's long lost cousin or something....that's the only explanation.
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 10, 2015 20:47:57 GMT -5
Did anyone actually expect anything different with Breslow pitching?
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 10, 2015 20:45:04 GMT -5
I don't mind using Breslow against Stephen Drew. But there was noone warming behind him to face the next batter... Must be expecting the extremely common triple play...
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 10, 2015 20:42:21 GMT -5
Any chance that the Red Sox have of coming back, Barnes seems to be trying to make sure it isnt possible.
Edit: Actually Farrell is too bringing in Breslow...
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 10, 2015 20:27:54 GMT -5
Why is Leon hitting? The only reason he was in the game is because Buchholz was starting anyway... "Hitting" is not exactly what he's doing... LOL Tocuhé
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 10, 2015 20:25:19 GMT -5
Why is Leon hitting? The only reason he was in the game is because Buchholz was starting anyway...
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 10, 2015 20:01:50 GMT -5
And what do you know, Breslow warming. A game that should be 1-1 is going to turn into a game that is 8-1
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Post by 07redsox on Jul 10, 2015 19:52:41 GMT -5
MOOKIE!!!
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