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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 17, 2024 11:45:29 GMT -5
Lot of changes baseball. Dont like most of them.
Like the clock change.
Add being able to trade draft picks among the small list of changes I do like. Would really make draft day extremely exciting.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 17, 2024 11:39:14 GMT -5
The more I think about it the more I've come to these conclusions:
The Big 3 are off the table. I would also keep Campbell and eventually Montgomery once he's officially in the organization off the table.
Perales and that young catcher Garcia are likely staying put given their injuries.
The only real other major hesitation I'd have is that young SS Arias who could be needed well down the road if Mayer struggles to needs to be shifted to 3b eventually.
But beyond that I'd be open for business. Nick Yorke is an obvious candidate to be moved given the presence of both Grissom and Campbell. He's a starting 2b on a lot of major league teams soon.
Meidroth could potentially start for a 2nd division team although he most likely winds up a utility man.
Cespedes is an attractive player to acquire for down the road. Blaze Jordan could even be a player of interest.
Teams looking for outfielders could well be attracted to Bleis, Allan Castro, or Jhostnyxon Garcia.
Brooks Brannon would be an attractive catching target.
Beyond Perales the pitching is not quite as deep but between Sandlin, Fitts, or Cruz-Rodriguez and Portes, there are pitchers of interest.
I suppose if a pitcher is the target one of those guys would be part of the return. I'd guess it wouldnt be Fitts or Wiki Gonzalez based on their struggles, but who knows?
The point is they have a lot of attractive talent on the table to be able to make a major deal, even Crotchet, although less likely.
They have serious depth they can trade from without touching their top 5 or thinning out the system.
This isnt a call to br reckless but rather a realization that they have a lot of attractive pieces and not that many needs to fill.
Frankly I dont see the next Pedro available or a Manny like RH bat so i see no need to trade from the top tier. They can package some off that 6 - 20 talent and come away getting what they need without wrecking the system although I'm sure the prospect hugger in me will howl in protest when it does happen.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 16, 2024 23:32:30 GMT -5
Had to work tonight and missed the whole damn game.
Sounds like Houck gave up a 3-run HR to Ohtani, and Duran got a chance to play, too.
Looks like Duran just cost me about $5 because now I feel compelled to get his Topps Now All Star MVP baseball card. I have all star MVP cards commemorating the All Star MVPs Carl Yastrzemski, Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, JD Drew and now Jarren Duran. Also got cards of Ted William's hitting his game winning HR in 1941 and hitting his HR off the eephus pitch in 1946.
Have to say - I feel kind of proud of Duran. He's come such a long way.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 16, 2024 17:45:01 GMT -5
It's all subjective but I'd rank them:
Mayer Anthony Teel Campbell Montgomery Yorke Bleis Perales Cespedes Arias
I think Campbell is mashing so much and he has enough of a ceiling I'd put him 4th and leave Montgomery's potential 5th.
I'll put Yorke and his proximity to the majors and likelihood to be starting 2b 6th and then I'll rank the rest by ceiling/experience so far.
I think Campbell is approaching the Big 3 and if Montgomery is what a lot of us think he can be he'll make it a big handful, until the others start matriculating to the majors.
YMMV
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 16, 2024 15:55:18 GMT -5
At 567, the Red Sox select D'Angelo Ortiz - David's son. He's a 3B from Miami Dade CC Kendall. Good move.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 16, 2024 11:36:11 GMT -5
Big Papi is the best clutch hitter AND MFY hater lmao GOAT! He and Pedro are awesome. I remember the little dance Pedro did on TBS when the Sox disposed of the Yankees in the ALDS. Those two guys GET the rivalry. They totally get it. Glad they were on our side.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 16, 2024 11:32:09 GMT -5
I have no desire to see Anthony dealt just because Montgomery is in the organization. They have the money to buy a really good pitcher or two. Use it. Several years down the road: C: Teel 1b: Casas 2b: Grissom SS: Mayer 3b: Devers Lf: AnthonyCf: Rafaela Rf: AnthonyDH: Campbell The DH spot would be a rotating spot where Devers can have days at DH with Grissom at 3b and Campbell ar 2b or some other combo. Between Montgomery, Rafaela, Grissom, and Campbell, there would be 4 bats that can hit from the right side, and 6 from the left side understanding that Montgomery switch hits and hopefully can continue to do so. That scenario wouldn't leave them too lefthanded down the 2028 road. If Anthony is as excellent as he appears to be then there's no reason he cant wind up sharing an outfield with Montgomery who I think would supplant Bleis as top lower level outfield prospect. I figure around 2027 Montgomery should start establishing himself even if he's in the majors for a bit in 26. In other words I think he lines up well time wise as Duran nears free agency. Is Anthony so good that he can play both LF and RF at the same time? How would the shift rules come into play?? THAT is why he's untradable. His ability to play LF and RF at the same time brings a new market efficiency in baseball, lol Either that or I've had it in my thick skull for a long time that Anthony is the man of the future in RF, and have to adjust my thinking that he might start off in RF but at some point he'll probably shift to LF when Braden Montgomery and his rocket arm is ready to take over RF. I'd say it's probably the latter
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 16, 2024 6:23:52 GMT -5
I have no desire to see Anthony dealt just because Montgomery is in the organization. They have the money to buy a really good pitcher or two. Use it. Several years down the road: C: Teel 1b: Casas 2b: Grissom SS: Mayer 3b: Devers Lf: Anthony Cf: Rafaela Rf: Anthony DH: Campbell The DH spot would be a rotating spot where Devers can have days at DH with Grissom at 3b and Campbell ar 2b or some other combo. Between Montgomery, Rafaela, Grissom, and Campbell, there would be 4 bats that can hit from the right side, and 6 from the left side understanding that Montgomery switch hits and hopefully can continue to do so. That scenario wouldn't leave them too lefthanded down the 2028 road. If Anthony is as excellent as he appears to be then there's no reason he cant wind up sharing an outfield with Montgomery who I think would supplant Bleis as top lower level outfield prospect. I figure around 2027 Montgomery should start establishing himself even if he's in the majors for a bit in 26. In other words I think he lines up well time wise as Duran nears free agency. Agree with the Montgomery thought, however where is this frontline SP gonna come from that you’ll pay? There’s essentially only two names that stand out this offseason: Burnes and Fried. The former is almost a virtual lock to resign w/ Baltimore — them not doing so would be sheer negligence. That just leaves the latter in Fried, and the competition will be eye watering. Not to mention, he’ll be 32 next year. For me, I think you’re only realistic path to getting a frontline SP outside of Fried is parting with some of your prospect capital like Anthony. Does it suck? Absolutely. But is it worth it for the long term picture of the team? Absolutely. I wouldnt consider it a lock that Burnes returns to Baltimore. Yes, their ownership is different and a lot more willing to spend, but there's going to be a bidding WAR and the Sox are as well positioned as anyone to make a huge offer. Same for Fried. Same for Sasaki as well should he be granted free agency. Maybe, they trade for Eovaldi and get this and next season out of him and then make their big splash in the winter of 25-26 instead. They dont have to trade Anthony for a young starter, and frankly I hardly see any young Pedro's out there. I'm not trading Anthony for a guy like Crochet, whom they're already concerned about his innings. These days they are mainly high effort 160 inning guys who break down too damn quickly. I wouldnt really want to sacrifice a prospect of Anthony's caliber, especially when I dont think he's extraneous. I considered the outfield of the future a few years down the road to be Anthony/Rafaela/Bleis. I think the presence of Montgomery gives the Sox a better option than Bleis, whom I have my doubts about. I think the OF of their future is now Anthony/Rafaela/Montgomery, and that that outfield unit could potentially challenge for being among the best in Sox history, as lofty and crazy as that sounds. The Sox have 2 stud outfield prospects and a guy who should be at least as good as JBJ and could wind up even better all around. The Sox have a young inexpensive core except for Devers. They can afford to plow their money into pitching. They have enough front line talent positionally coming out of the minors they will save a ton of money not having to spend a lot in free agency to augment it. The money can go to pitching.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 15, 2024 22:46:10 GMT -5
Visualization worked for Adam Sandler's Bobby Boucher in The Waterboy. Just saying
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 15, 2024 21:07:52 GMT -5
I do miss Sale. Good dude. If he was healthy and doing what he was doing with the Sox, it would have been amazing. No qualms about the trade. Who knew he'd finally stay healthy? Good for him. He deserves some good luck for a change. If he gets into coaching some day I hope it's with the Sox. Well, season's not over yet. I hope he does stay healthy, but still a ways to go. True but if he didnt pitch another inning he's already had a really good season, more than he's done since the 2018 and he's kept the Braves afloat among some major injuries.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 15, 2024 20:06:29 GMT -5
I do miss Sale. Good dude. If he was healthy and doing what he was doing with the Sox, it would have been amazing. No qualms about the trade. Who knew he'd finally stay healthy? Good for him. He deserves some good luck for a change. If he gets into coaching some day I hope it's with the Sox.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 15, 2024 18:05:49 GMT -5
The only player younger than Yorke in AAA with 120 PAs and a higher wRC+ this year is James Wood (probably the #2 prospect in all of baseball) While that is indeed great, I can't overlook his time in AA. It has to mean something - which tempers his SSS in Worcester for me. Believe me, I was very high on him during his offensive tour de dorce in A-Ball, however, his 'fall from (prospect list) grace' was just as eye-opening in 2022 and 2023. While it's not quite how it used to be where it almost seemed easier for hitters to flourish in Pawtucket because New Britain was a graveyard for hitters, I wonder if it's closer to a situation where Worcester is such a hitters' haven that it's simply easier to excel in AAA than it is to hit in AA, and I wonder if that's a bit of what Nick Yorke is experiencing?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 15, 2024 16:08:29 GMT -5
Yesterday everyone was ragging on me for wanting pitchers and no SS's. Looks like Breslow took my advice. Or maybe the best players available this year weren't shortstops. Doubt they decided that they had enough SS and should avoid them.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 15, 2024 12:10:36 GMT -5
I have no desire to see Anthony dealt just because Montgomery is in the organization. They have the money to buy a really good pitcher or two. Use it.
Several years down the road:
C: Teel 1b: Casas 2b: Grissom SS: Mayer 3b: Devers Lf: Anthony Cf: Rafaela Rf: Anthony DH: Campbell
The DH spot would be a rotating spot where Devers can have days at DH with Grissom at 3b and Campbell ar 2b or some other combo.
Between Montgomery, Rafaela, Grissom, and Campbell, there would be 4 bats that can hit from the right side, and 6 from the left side understanding that Montgomery switch hits and hopefully can continue to do so. That scenario wouldn't leave them too lefthanded down the 2028 road.
If Anthony is as excellent as he appears to be then there's no reason he cant wind up sharing an outfield with Montgomery who I think would supplant Bleis as top lower level outfield prospect. I figure around 2027 Montgomery should start establishing himself even if he's in the majors for a bit in 26. In other words I think he lines up well time wise as Duran nears free agency.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2024 19:58:03 GMT -5
Montgomery's not going to be an everyday player until 2027 if things go well, I wouldn't give any thought to the L/R balance that far out Got to stop this. Every other organization gets their players through the minors quickly there is 0 excuse that a kid who tore up the SEC can’t be up with only one year in the minors Yes, all prospects are Paul Skenes.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2024 19:27:41 GMT -5
Good player. Got to imagine there is going to be a purge on the lefties on roster if not core players with now Big 3 and Montgomery coming plus Casas and Devers that’s 6 everyday lefties rest of team has to be righties Montgomery is a switch hitter.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2024 19:27:15 GMT -5
Exciting pick. It makes me feel easier about trading a Miguel Bleis or Allan Castro if need be.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2024 18:34:35 GMT -5
I'd be willing to do Sandlin & Zannatello. Bleis for sure. Has done nothing in the last 2 years. Keep Yorke and trade Grissom. I'd keep Grissom and deal Yorke. If Grissom is healthy he can hit.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2024 15:18:12 GMT -5
Cora got away with that. Dirty Water.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2024 15:16:39 GMT -5
Raffy to Raffy
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2024 15:12:45 GMT -5
Oh no
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2024 15:10:40 GMT -5
Not so nice
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2024 15:10:18 GMT -5
Nice
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2024 15:04:10 GMT -5
How about we just bring Kenley back for next year can it be on a 1 year deal, or does it have to be 2 years ? i would like to konw. lol If he keeps pitching like this I have no doubt he'll easily get 2 year offers.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2024 15:02:00 GMT -5
This is what I'm talking about. I wouldn't pitch Kenley for 2, but Cora is and if Jansen quickly gets 3 puts it's a great move even though I dont agree with it.
I understand the setup situation is a bit unsettled right now and with Slaten and Martin out, and there's a 4 day break ahead, so I get it. Still...
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