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Post by cologneredsox on Jan 23, 2015 5:27:49 GMT -5
1) Xander Bogaerts 2) Mookie Betts 3) Blake Swihart 4) Henry Owens 5) Manny Margot 6) Eduardo Rodriguez 7) Raphael Devers 8) Jackie Bradley Jr. 9) Garin Cecchini 10) Christian Vazquez 11) Brian Johnson 12) Michael Kopech 13) Matt Barnes 14) Michael Chavis 15) Deven Marerro I excluded Castillo to fit your title more accurately Actually, from 5) on I'd see anybody with a good case of being ranked next... Read more: forum.soxprospects.com/thread/2515/top-15-prospects-25?page=1#ixzz3PdfaU1El
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Post by cologneredsox on Nov 7, 2014 8:50:51 GMT -5
One question: I don't remember it, but I think Xander got the 8-grate, at least as a scale, being ranked here as a prospect. What would Devers have to do to get the same scale and how likely is ist he get's it?
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Post by cologneredsox on Nov 6, 2014 3:11:52 GMT -5
Don't have any idea how many (over 50 percent id guess for sure), but isn't that exactly the kind of question we're all debating about since the emergence of Henry Owens? Finally we maybe get an idea if what we might have with him (and Rodriguez, and Johnson...)
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Post by cologneredsox on Oct 29, 2014 9:20:02 GMT -5
Looks about right. Nothing too crazy. As I've said before, that 4-7 (3-6 on a Castillo-less list) is really just a tier for me depending on what you value. Don't know that I'd go with Marrero at 9, but the fact that he could play a gold glove-level shortstop right now is certainly worth a ton - it's just whether you think he'll hit more than Bradley did this year. So you'd say Owens is clearly above them? (Especially Rodriguez)
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Post by cologneredsox on Oct 27, 2014 11:11:47 GMT -5
Still makes me feel awful. Just so completely not understandeble... RIP
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Post by cologneredsox on Oct 21, 2014 7:18:26 GMT -5
Since it got very quiet for a while npw about one of our most discussed young pitcher, I want to throw the name of Yusmeiro Petit in the thread. Jonah Keri gives a nice overview about him which can tell us that you don't need to throw gas to be successful. Of course, many of you will point out to the extreem good control and command Petit has. But let's not forget Owens still has much time to get better control and it's not like he didn't make strides in this department for the second season in a row now. grantland.com/the-triangle/2014-mlb-playoffs-giants-royals-world-series-preview-predictions/
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Post by cologneredsox on Oct 21, 2014 2:15:40 GMT -5
The final chapter on this trade is not yet written. It all depends on the return on a possible Cespedes trade for the Red Sox. And, we need an impact outfielder, preferable LH, to replace him. Hello Jason Heyward. This. Or something similar to it. Cespedes has never fit the profile. He's a B+ paper for a kid that needs an A. My reaction when the trade went down was that he would be packaged for Stanton over the winter. It may be "Big Mike" Stanton, Jason Heyward, or some other player....but it almost certainly will be someone. The cache of prospects will be leveraged with Cespedes to increase the return of a (most likely) young impact player ~2-3 years away from free agency. But at the same time.....Lester is coming back anyway, so it's an easy win for 2 months of Jon Lester's Playoff Vacation. Could you explain what interest Miami has in a player who has one year left of his contract and is looking for a big raise after that? Actually, that's basically the main problem with him being used in every trade scenario I am thinking about. Which team wants cespedes only for a year?
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Post by cologneredsox on Oct 20, 2014 9:02:55 GMT -5
Not sure how i feel about this, the Athletics Offense struggled this year. Was Davis our guy? They struggled after the break. Before, they were one of the best hitting teams, if I remember it right...
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Post by cologneredsox on Oct 1, 2014 7:45:29 GMT -5
Even without it, it shouldn't be happening...
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Post by cologneredsox on Sept 30, 2014 13:22:59 GMT -5
I'd like to see Pedrioa, who appears to me to be in an obvious decline, moved to allow Mookie to play his natural position. At risk of going off topic and drawing the ire of the moderators, where would you move Pedroia to? Honest question. I imagine he means 'dealt' with moved..?
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Post by cologneredsox on Sept 30, 2014 11:02:56 GMT -5
As much fun as this is: Please let us have the Joy of seeing both of these special players for many years to come as cornerstones of our defense and offensive game. For whatever position...
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Post by cologneredsox on Sept 2, 2014 4:15:47 GMT -5
Hopefully this hasn't been discussed yet, I don't have the time to luck to close for it:
I am wondering if the Redsox not using Mookie at 2B these days with Pedroia not available could indicate they don't really consider trading him, like many suggest. Wouldn't they make him more attractive for other teams if they show he can handle 2B at the major league level? I would really welcome it if they choose to stick with him instead of trade him, like for many others here he really has grown on me a lot with his play.
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Post by cologneredsox on Aug 27, 2014 5:07:57 GMT -5
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Post by cologneredsox on Aug 22, 2014 5:33:07 GMT -5
There could be something behind this, if fixed, he could get even better. Owens still doesn't stop to intrigue me. And our shipment from Baltimore is not far behind! Of the 9 home runs allowed this year, only one was a solo shot. For a low WHIP pitcher, what are the odds that it's a random happening ? By contrast, Brian Johnson, also a low WHIP pitcher, has allowed 5 HRs, 4 were solos. Sounds like a new task for Eric! Gesendet von meinem iPhone mit Tapatalk
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Post by cologneredsox on Aug 22, 2014 4:32:29 GMT -5
I am amazed at all the back pedaling. Most of the people who now are saying oh yeah of course he is struggling after all he is only 21 were the ones saying he was going to rake and win rookie of the year. Some prospects hit from day one some don't and some never do. It has been that way forever. The Shifts do make an impact but most of that is on pull hitting lefties. Word always got out on guys holes it is just quicker now. The hitter has to adjust the guys who can without creating other holes are stars. So far I have not seen much adjusting from the younger guys they still look bad on the same pitches. Maybe hunting some fastballs earlier in the counts might help. Instead of flailing or looking at sliders with 2 strikes. Let's call it the "Trout"-effect. And by a lesser degree Machado, Harper and the young pitchers (Fernandez, Gray for example) led to the feeling, the young players would be successful immediatly. For every Trout there are 4 Alex Gordons, it just takes time i guess...
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Post by cologneredsox on Aug 22, 2014 4:25:50 GMT -5
Are the homers Owens is giving up since reaching AAA something to be concerned about? Not to me because he has only given up 3 in 25IP, although not good, not enough to be a concern at this point. I did notice a few strange things about Henry's HRs though. He's a low WHIP guy yet, a disproportionately high number have come with runners on which might signal that he makes more mistakes pitching from the stretch. Also, of his career 18 HRs, 11 have come in 5 games and only 7 were the lone HR in a game. Not sure what that means but it's a different distribution than I'd expect for a generally low HR pitcher. There could be something behind this, if fixed, he could get even better. Owens still doesn't stop to intrigue me. And our shipment from Baltimore is not far behind!
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Post by cologneredsox on Aug 21, 2014 12:28:26 GMT -5
Guys, let's just be a bit more patient. You talk like the book on JBJ, Bogie, Betts is already closed. Not to mention Cecchini and Middlebrooks, although the latter is running out of time a bit. Still: Chances are still there the Sox produce 4-5 major league hitters in these years and it's not like this includes promising talent like Swihart, Marrero, Coyle and to a lesser, a little more down the road degree Margot, Rijo and the rest of the gang.
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Post by cologneredsox on Aug 20, 2014 6:04:21 GMT -5
The problem with the Euro analogy is that baseball is a part of the national pastime in Cuba with little competition from other sports than perhaps soccer unlike basketball in Europe where they have to import American players. Yeah, most of the European Universities and colleges have basketball programs. Actually, Europe don't have "college programs" at all, over here we have "Clubs", where talents play from their youth till they come out, if they have the talent and abilities... Gesendet von meinem iPhone mit Tapatalk
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Post by cologneredsox on Aug 14, 2014 1:47:28 GMT -5
One thing that I heard while listening to "Year of the Elbow" on MLB's XM network was Leo Mazzone keep saying that his starting pitchers Maddux and Glavine (and to some extent Smoltz)never got hurt because they weren't max effort guys on every pitch. He was saying that nowadays every guy who has 95MPH velocity is always max effort. He said that what's missing in today's game is pitchers that can dial it up when they need it, but can get guys out throwing 90% or less effort. He was saying that his big three could all hit mid 90's but only did so when they needed it. He uses that as an example of why every other guy is getting Tommy John now. That being said... and while I think Mazzone is sometimes a tool, he does have a point. I look at a guy like Brian Johnson who has the ability to top out at 94 or 95 yet only hits it when he really needs to reach back and I wonder if that's why scouts aren't doing backflips about him. Everything is about velocity when it comes to scouting. I wonder if he would have been a hotter prospect back in the day. And that's why I like Owens as well. Everywhere young sp prospects are dropping like flies, but these two young pitchers are able to put good numbers while showing a relatively slow fastball. I keep hoping that will last even in the bigs.
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Post by cologneredsox on Aug 13, 2014 3:17:05 GMT -5
Seeing the problems with adjusting betts to the outfield, I wonder if we shouldn't pick some of the if prospects sooner at the of, whilst we have that luxury
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Post by cologneredsox on Aug 11, 2014 10:38:30 GMT -5
Oh here we go again. It's all mental. It's a good thing he's not as mental on defense. He must be a completely different person out there in the field. Not to say it is like that, but would that be really surprising? He has as many reasons to be very self-confident in the field as being totally lost at the plate. While there is so much more to hitting than only the mental side I guess you can't overestimate the impact on your results if you're confident in your abilites or the opposite of it. He is due for a restart, to judge him based on the current results seems to be as wrong as believing his spring stats from '13 were any indication of his abilities at the plate...
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Post by cologneredsox on Aug 10, 2014 5:47:09 GMT -5
Should he get off your lawn while he's at it? Imagine the stat lines if he didn't have to deal with an unbalanced upper end. You really don't want to see any of our prospects on my lawn during the season, do you ? Don't let his swag go away by straightening him out!
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Post by cologneredsox on Aug 9, 2014 13:53:52 GMT -5
What bothers me about the RS handling of JBJ (and X, too, for that matter) is that they each accumulated a year of service time for subpar production. Boras represents both of them, which means they're here for six years and out. They're both highly likely to be much better players in 2020 (possibly a superstar in the case of X) than they've been in 2014. Now, we won't have their 2020 performance. Heck, the RS could have secured their 2020 performance just by sending them down for a portion of this season. That way, 2014 wouldn't have counted as a full season. While I agree that this detail is unpleasant, the year of big club experience could work wonders on their performances in the next few years. And both have shown to be able to handle AAA
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Post by cologneredsox on Aug 1, 2014 18:02:36 GMT -5
Mookie promoted, middlebrooks off dl
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Post by cologneredsox on Jul 31, 2014 17:15:30 GMT -5
Drew gone, Xander at SS must pitch k's. This is hilarious
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