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Post by geezergeek on May 17, 2015 19:22:41 GMT -5
Thx nip
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Post by geezergeek on May 17, 2015 19:07:12 GMT -5
Ben Moore has hit in Rookie ball and is continuing to hit in Greenville. I can't find a scouting report on him. Does he have projectable catching skills?
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Post by geezergeek on May 17, 2015 12:04:57 GMT -5
No sign of Witte's great hitting abbatting. Yes he is blocked within the organization but maybe it's time to bump him up a level to see if can hit at the next rung and prep him as a trade component. I could see a package or Witte, Aro and a pitching prospect for Kazmir.
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Post by geezergeek on Apr 25, 2015 16:12:38 GMT -5
He's 25 years old and passed over high and seems to still be piling up the numbers in AA . He has a good handle of the strike zone but power has fallen off a bit. Is there a bit of Youk in him?
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Post by geezergeek on Mar 15, 2015 18:49:40 GMT -5
Its about this time of year that I peruse the lower levels of Red Sox Farm system looking for possible breakout candidates. last year my position breakout candidate was Manual Margot and my pitching alternatives were Luis Diaz and Cody Kukuk. I chose Diaz and as it seems Kukuk's only chance at a breakout will be from Prison.
This year I've considered Yoan Aybar and Luis Alexander Basabe as a position player breakout candidates. Aybar needs to put on about 30 lbs to take advantage of what seems to be natural power. He also needs to become more selective in pitch recognition to cut down on his strike outs. Basabe is a speed merchant that looks like he can develop some reasonable pop that will move him into the same 5 tool category as Margot. As such Basabe is my position player breakout candidate this year..
Selecting a pitching candidate was fortunately a bit more challenging because I think the Sox are loaded at the lower levels. I did not include Espinoza and Acosta as this is their first year and I tend to exclude DSL players from my choices. My 6 candidates were Jhonathon Diaz, Enmanual Dejesus, Daniel Gonzalaz, Dedger Jimanez, Dioscar Romero and Gerson Batista. My pitching breakout candidate is Daniel Gonzalaz. I love his size. Good control with the ability to strike out batters and 3 pitchers that continue to evolve. My second choice would be Dedger Jimanez with attributes similar to Gonzalez.
What are the other thoughts for top pitching and position player breakouts this year?
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Post by geezergeek on Mar 6, 2015 10:44:58 GMT -5
Will Pence's injury provide an opportunity to unload either Victorino or Craig. Would either justify a top 10 Giants prospect. Even If I had to sweeten the deal I would target Tyler Beede or Kyle Krick. The bonus is that Beede is a local kid. Organizationally Krick fills a mid level organization shortfall. Pitching wise I see the organization strong at the Rookie league level, Lowell and Pawtucket and weaker at A and AA levels. Krick would help fill that void.
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Post by geezergeek on Sept 23, 2014 14:34:31 GMT -5
Thanks Vet. Am I right in assuming that based on your response if the Sox were to sign Miller or Lester as free agents they would not surrender any picks in the amateur draft?
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Post by geezergeek on Sept 22, 2014 17:22:19 GMT -5
Since John Henry bought the Red Sox, they have acquired Curt Schilling, Josh Beckett, Mike Lowell, Coco Crisp, Victor Martinez, Adrian Gonzalez, Andrew Bailey and Jake Peavy for prospects. Those prospects have included Jorge De La Rosa, Hanley Ramirez, Anibal Sanchez, Andy Marte, Justin Masterson,Anthony Rizzo, Josh Reddick and Jose Iglesias. None of those trades was a bad trade, and some of them were excellent. Despite that the departed prospects have produced more WAR than the acquired veterans. If we include only contractual time actually traded (e.g. one year of Adrian Gonzalez vs. six years of Anthony Rizzo), the prospects have been worth more than double the WAR of the acquired veterans. I think, provided Bogaerts and Betts and Swihart aren't busts, that there is enough talent in the farm system that the Red Sox can, with a few good free agent signings, have a really good team by 2016, and possibly even in 2015. I don't feel they have the prospects to acquire a Giancarlo Stanton (who will cost at a minimum three of Bogaerts, Betts, Swihart, Owens)and have enough left to build a contender. We have more then enough to get Stanton and saying the minimum price would be 3 of Bogaerts, Betts, Swihart and Owens is crazy. Those are 4 prospects that have all been top 25 prospects. Yes that might be what the Marlins start out asking for, but it won't take that much. Not when prospects are valued as high as they are today. I think a package of Betts, two of the following Devers, Webster, Ranaudo, Marrero, Vazquez, Johnson, Rodriquez, Barnes, Coyle and Cecchini. Then another lottery ticket type player like a Margot or Rijo. I just don't see another team willing to give up 3 elite prospects for Stanton. Lets say the offer was Betts, Ranaudo, Rodriquez and Rijo. That's three top 100 prospects and Rijo a high upside very young player. If Betts was still being considered for Keith Laws mid season top 50, he should have been in the top 10. Betts most likely will be the single best prospect the Marlins get offered for Stanton. Now to your point on WARS on players traded. I'm sure your right, the problem is we have too many good prospects and don't seem interest in developing them. So we have to trade some of them. I wish they'd understand that not all players get to the majors and have success right away. They should have left Bogaerts at SS and they should be playing Bradley almost everyday. You need to give our elite prospects two years of regular playing time before you can say their a bust. I just remember a month back when Bradley really heated up and what did they do? Brought up Betts and were playing Bradley every other day. If the Red Sox aren't willing to give our prospects more then a month or two to prove themselves, then we are going to have a really hard time developing this stacked farm system. 3 top 100 prospects and a secondary prospect for the privilege of paying Stanton $250-300 million for 10 years. Yasmani Tomas is starting to look like a good deal even at $100 mil. Save the prospects for a #1 and 2 starter. (GG: Please try to be careful about not putting what you're posting inside of the "quote" tags. Thanks.)
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Post by geezergeek on Sept 22, 2014 16:48:19 GMT -5
A few years ago there was rule change that prevented a team from receiving a compensatory amateur pick if they traded for a player mid year and that player was in his walk year. If that free agent signs with another team the following year does the acquiring team forfeit their first round pick in the amateur draft?
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Post by geezergeek on Aug 27, 2014 17:09:10 GMT -5
Houston has gamed positioning for high draft picks the past 4 years. Giving them an extension to sign Aiken is just rewarding bad manners.
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Post by geezergeek on Jul 9, 2014 11:20:51 GMT -5
Dewey Evans was the last Red Sox to play in the majors at 19. Given the Sox sad state of affairs this year it seems like a few more years before they are competitive thus opening up some opportunities. Bogaerts made the majors at 20. Betts at 21. Are there any players in the system that could be the next 19 year old to be called up? More than likely it would have to be from the DSL or GCL. Devers (who is starting to remind me of a young MCab) is a candidate, are there any others.
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Post by geezergeek on Jul 2, 2014 10:02:48 GMT -5
Is Cole Sturgeon the best Red Sox player name since Seth Schwindenhammer?
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Post by geezergeek on Jun 23, 2014 20:12:15 GMT -5
The Greenville Drive outfield is starting to look very impressive. Margot is the gem. However, Kapstein and Kendrick (no not that one) Perkins are starting throw around some numbers. Both have improved significantly over last year. BA and OBP are decent but they don't seem to be show impressive power and have high strikeout totals. Do they work the count or are they to aggressive at the plate accounting for the high number of strikeouts?
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Post by geezergeek on Jun 22, 2014 11:11:41 GMT -5
Is it time to consider Johnson the second best pitching prospect in the system? He seems to have mastered 3 pitches and can throw them all for strikes. His control is better than Webster. He's more mature as a pitcher than Barnes. He has better command of three pitches than Renardo. Though he has graduated from the prospect list, I think Workman is a closer comparison to Johnson than the other three. I think the next rankings should place him just behind Betts and Owens at number 3 (#2 pitcher). His only competition for the 3 slot would be Swihart and not another pitcher.
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Post by geezergeek on Jun 21, 2014 15:12:17 GMT -5
Never has there been more hype for a promotion out of the DSL than this one. Good luck to the kid. If all goes perfectly, we'll see him in Boston in 2018. There will be a lot of bumps in the road between now and Boston but if all goes well we may get a peek late in "17". That would put on the same track as Bogaerts. Kind of reminds me at this point in his development of a young MCab. I hope he continues to develop that way as he moves through the system. Its to bad he is not known for defense because LF has his name all over it.
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Post by geezergeek on Jun 18, 2014 19:17:52 GMT -5
Great list. I think it makes my point that there is a wealth of non top tier pre prospects in the system that are bunching up for 40 man roster eligibility next year. There is no downside to claiming a player and then releasing him following spring training. Several of these players would jump several positions on a number of bottom feeder teams top prospects lists like the Twins, SD, TB, AZ, Houston, MIA and the Cubs (especially with Theo). Of your list, it is my opinion that Diaz and Coyle would be drafted if left exposed.
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Post by geezergeek on Jun 18, 2014 18:33:52 GMT -5
One of the nice problems of a loaded farm system is that a team faces a dilemma as players mature and there is limited space on the 40 man roster. The Sox will face that problem next year with 2 players as they did last year with Almanzar. Sean Coyle is the first player that needs to be addressed. Injuries slowed him the first 4 years but he seems to have found his rhythm this ear. I don't think he has much trade value other than being included as a throw in, in a larger deal. Is it time to showcase him on the major league roster now to see he he has trade value now or is at least worthy of a spot on next years 40 man roster?
The other player is Luis Diaz. Injuries slowed him also but he seems to be progressing. I like his size and he seems to be one pitch away from being at least a minor league factor. I look at Diaz being at at the top of the second tier pitchers (outside of the Webster, Owens, Barnes et al). He just got bumped to Portland and there seems to be little room for him in Pawtucket even if he does well in AA. Again, little or no trade value other than being a throw in? Is there room for him on the on the 40 man roster next year as it would be a shame lose him to rule 5 next year?
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Post by geezergeek on Jun 7, 2014 7:06:10 GMT -5
Luis Alejandro is also on the DSL team with his brother. The first year, especially for a 16 years old is always a challenge being away from home from the first time. Year 2 should give us an idea of the twins direction. I'm moe thinking about physicality and approach when I suggested, "A class below Devers".
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Post by geezergeek on Jun 4, 2014 17:59:07 GMT -5
The Basabe twins look kind of interesting. Do we need to start thinking of them in a class just a bit below Devers? The twins look to have some good skills and will likely fill out their frames as they get older. I think they were barely 16 when they went pro last year. Low avg their first but good OPB. Luis Alexander is playing CF in the DSL with Devers. I can't find out any information about where Luis Alejandro is playing or will play?
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Post by geezergeek on Jun 4, 2014 14:34:40 GMT -5
Here's the rub - Coyle will have to be added to the 40 man after this season or risk rule 5 exposure. If you are not going to expose him to the rule 5 draft then add during this season. I think he would have more value than Alex Hassan. Both are righties.
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Post by geezergeek on May 31, 2014 22:06:33 GMT -5
Guys, Xander Bogaerts played a full DSL season and was in the big leagues by 20. I don't think this is anything to worry about. And yes I realize Devers has way, way more hype than Xander did at this point in his career and it would be exciting if they thought he was advanced enough for Lowell, but if he's as good as we hope they will not be shy about promoting him accordingly. The wait may not be long for Lowell. One game does not a career make but what a DSL opening. 3 for 5, DBL, HR and 4 RBI. He's 17 so Joe Nuxhall's record is safe.
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Post by geezergeek on May 31, 2014 16:36:04 GMT -5
We REALLY don't need Ryan Roberts though. Or Snyder. fixed In fact I was wondering why the Sox did not consider Coyle for a call up yesterday as a righty hitter. He's hitting .350+ and Hassan .217 and taking up a roster spot on the 40. It seems that Coyle would have more value in the field also.
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Post by geezergeek on May 31, 2014 8:51:09 GMT -5
Is there no end to Witte? Seems like all the hot bats in the organization have cooled off lately (including the Mookster)except Witte. At age 24 at his level of consistent productivity this year it seems that he should be moved to high "A". There is a need since both Chester and Gedman are on the DL.
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Post by geezergeek on May 27, 2014 14:45:29 GMT -5
He's not popular, but he's quite relevant. Dan Shaughnessy wondered in his column today about the sox farm system. Most of you won't like this, but he has an interesting point. The top prospects are at AA or above. The major league team stinks and one reason is there's no depth. It's a perfect chance for new blood, yet there is none. Last year Allen Webster busted in his call up. Middlebrooks has been terrible. JBJ's hitting is as bad as I've seen from a Sox regular outfielder in my lifetime (I was born in the '60s). His defense is excellent but offense is necessary. Bogaerts is going to be an excellent third baseman but even he looks like a position switch. Heck, Stephen Drew had to be re-signed. There's plenty of opportunity, but not much help available from the farm. Back in the 90s we heard over and over about the Blue Jays farm system. Baseball America and Peter Gammons were in prickly heat about it. Jose Pet, Sil Campusano anyone? It turned out to be a myth. Of course, the 80s blue jays system was historically terrific. At some point, we need to leave the vacuum and honestly ask whether the Sox system is all hype. I'm not scouting box scores. I'm looking at the players on the field. My response to Dan's column in the Globe. The Red Sox farm system as it is presently constituted, in my knowledge, is one of the top Sox systems in the past 30 or 40 years. It's not just Mookie Betts as it was not just Xander Bogaerts last year. I'm not saying it is the best in baseball right now nor am I saying that they will produce stars or regulars every year but they will churn out major leaguers yearly. They are so deep that their concern is losing players to the rule 5 draft and minor league free agency because there is not enough room on the 40 man roster. From Rookie league through AAA and you will find nuggets on each level that will one day play for the Red Sox or be used as trade fodder and end up on another teams major league roster. Charrington knew the system was not ready to provide players at the start of last season thus the low cost short term fill ins. Yes, he got lucky and we had one heck of a ride. Charrington is building this team for the long run much like the Patriots. No, they won't win the World series every year but with their minor league foundation and a few smart free agent signings every once in a while this organization will be competitive for a long time. By the way it is a smart move to be under the cap now if trade(s) are necessary in July. Come on Dan if you are going to Shank management tell the whole story.
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Post by geezergeek on May 21, 2014 21:38:09 GMT -5
Robby Scott doesn't seem to have much collage history but he was still signed as an undrafted FA. Soxprospects doesn't show much about what he throws. He has size, 2 consecutive years of low ERA's and has cut his walk rate in half. Is this a pitcher that has some potential or is he just another arm in the system?
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